Why would I? I’m sure I’m getting enough from beef, especially liver. The daily guidelines are something like 90mg but, from memory, old experiments on conscientious objectors showed 10mg was enough to prevent scurvy. A condition I certainly don’t have!
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Collagen synthesis 
A good shout. I would need to look into that one.
Robb and some of his peers like Chris Kresser don’t believe in the importance of the pH balance. From what I’ve gathered online, he discusses this more in his book Wired to Eat. I haven’t read that, so I can’t comment specifically. I unfortunately don’t own Sacred Cow, so I can’t flip back through to see if it was mentioned. An accompanying film narrated by Nick Offerman will be released in a couple months too, which is exciting.
But yeah, I think the villification of cattle is asinine and dangerous not just nutritionally but also ethically and environmentally. I realize this thread isn’t so much about the latter, but the reality is that these three perspectives are intertwined. Red meat is nutritious regardless of whether or not it is grass-finished, though I’d love if people supported rotational grazing systems more. /endrant
Bullshit.
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This isn’t a blog, it’s a thread on a forum.
Here we go, let the crap pile up.
Nope. Trust me, it is not hidden when it happens.
Where did that ratio come from? Uranus, or a different planet?
You realize that you are an idiot, right?
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Here are some superb “numbers” that one can strive for …
HDL: 89
Trigycerides: 40
h1CRP: 0.53
LDL: 220 excellent as the density profile is off the charts to the good LDL
… BTW these are mine! PS: LDL density profile is relatively a new test for the general population, and is what is now causing most Doctors to question statin thereapy, and instead focus on Nutrition (ultra low sugar), Reducing Inflammation and it’s Causes.
Genetic Cholesterol afflictions are extremely low and are often assumed when afflictions appear within a family (i.e. heredity) when the similarities are “lifestyle”. I am not attempting to educate or counter in this blorum … but encourage direct research and search for Truth in the limitless information available to all. However, extreme care and caution should be considered as one navigates search.
Have you ever had yours tested under different conditions?
Meaning, you eat this way now and have these results, but do you have anything to compare them to from different dietary practices?
What many people don’t realize is that they say “Look at this!” which is great, congrats, sincerely, but those results could easily be an attribution fallacy because there is nothing to compare them to.
What is the difference or rate of improvement?
That’s the tough one to answer.
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This is a dude who capitalizes “truth”, because there is only one truth and he alone knows it, as evidenced by the fact that he cited his own numbers as perfect.
This is also the same dude who believes his leg workout consisting of leg press for exactly 140 seconds is the perfect program.
Everything he does is optimal, perfect, genius, and The Truth. I would caution against discussing anything with someone like that.
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Oh, yeah, it’s pretty much for conversational purposes only.
Believe me, I ain’t about to trade the advice of a cardiologist with 15 years of practice for the words of a guy on the internet. 
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Pshh. Cardiologist, shmardiologist. Imagine how much more you’d be alive if you’d seen the Truth before those quacks saved your life!
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That is an excellent word. 
Its hard for someone like me to know these things. Spititual types say that when the student is ready the teacher will appear before them.
I blame my poor self esteem for my reliance on educated and practiced professionals. The really good Truth stuff is for other people. Better people.
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But that’s because you have a brain.
I typically think some of the weird posts and Internet arguments are pretty amusing, but this kind of stuff is downright dangerous. Somebody reads these things, and really does choose Internet gibberish over medical consensus. Now, we could say “well, Darwinism - if you’re that dumb, we don’t want you populating the earth anyway,” but, when they receive a diagnosis, they’re understandably scared and looking for alternatives (denial is the first stage of grief, after all).
I absolutely encourage independent research and understanding the literature and your treatment alternatives. Additionally, only a lazy or crazy person would not recommend lifestyle changes as part of any care plan. However you then discuss that research with your doctor and come up with a plan together.
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The interesting resent talk on pufas is their possible link to insulin resistance. The way I understand it, because of the physical structure of pufas they tend to tangle. When the mitochondria in your cells (the power factories) attempt to run on them too much, they get jammed up and will actually “blow a fuse” and shut down. Them shutting down may be the initial trigger for messing up your metabolism and causing glucose tolerance issues. That said, they are a necessary nutrient. The problem is that in the modern diet people are probably getting 20 times as many as we evolved eating. The biggest contributors are seed oils which are in virtually all packaged foods and on most things you buy at a restaurant. Grain feed chicken and pork can also be significant as well as seeds and nuts if you are eating a lot of them. Beef, even grain fed, doesn’t have much in the way of pufas.
Not exactly. Unsaturated fats are prone to oxidation, which can lead to greater production of free radicals, which in turn can cause cellular damage, as you point out.
PUFAs are an essential fat (they account for both omega 6 and omega 3) but there is a quantity as well as quality issue. A common trend recently is to try and combat increased levels of omega 6 by consuming fish oil. The problem here is twofold:
- as a PUFA, fish oil supplements themselves are prone to the same type of oxidisation, and;
- increasing your omega 3 intake will by itself not fix your 3 to 6 ratio in absence of a reduction in the latter.
The main theory gaining some traction is that excess PUFAs from seed oil are making fat cells insulin sensitive, i.e. they are getting bigger! This in turn is messing up fat cell signalling, which is having a greater detriment across the entire body and resulting in insulin resistance - a process that is usually blamed on excessive carbohydrate intake. It seems carbs may not be as demonic as they are often made out, although they remain central to the whole insulin resistance paradigm.
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No, I’m talking about another mechanism being theorized about. And if I remember correctly, increased insulin sensitivity with pufas is only a short term phenomenon. It reverses and causes insensitivity after more time.
If you could expand on that or point me to some articles it would be appreciated.
I believe most of where I was hearing this is from Paul Salidino (one of the carnivore guys, though his been pushing back towards eating carbs in the last half year or so). I think he’s talked about it in a number of talks and I’m not sure at this point which one I’m remembering it from. Please take into account I listen to a lot of health and fitness podcasts casually, so I may have some stuff wrong, but I’m remembering a direct mechanism for causing dysfunction at the level of mitochondria when pufas are a large amount of diet/blood lipids.
If you look through the podcasts, there’s lots and lots of stuff on Pufas in the last couple of months if you have a good many hours to listen. As a warning, if you aren’t familiar with him, he talks very fast and is very technical (though you seem to have a pretty good background in the subject). Sorry, for not pointing you to the exact one I did look through my podcast history, but he’s been into the PUFA stuff so much I couldn’t easily figure out which one.
Did you arrive at anything with regards to Vitamin C?
Based on my reading of some meta-analysis, human trials have not replicated the type of benefits seen in animal studies where supplemental Vit C led to accelerated bone healing, etc. And while it plays a role in collagen synthesis, it seems modest amounts, e.g. 60mg, are sufficient for this purpose, while higher doses of Vit C can do more harm than good greater by over-scavenging free radicals.
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