im a big believer in deadlifting for reps. maybe not 36, but definitely sets of 8, 10, 12, 15…they’ve done wonders for my deadlift max and overall size and strength. oh yeah, and they’re great for your nutsack too.
I think high rep deadlifting would be preferable for RDLs, and not max effort style of lift, if you get what I mean. The whole purpose of high rep squats or high rep dumbbell rows is to build mass, so I think a movement where the eccentric can be controlled should be preferred.
high reps des over 10 repseven 8 . are not useful . beter do hyperextensions . with a light barbell on the regular extension bench not the 45 degrees.
Using the BBB template for 531, I do high rep deads after my heavy squat sessions, and do the high rep squats after my heavy deadlifts. Has been working great for me.
[quote]winston43 wrote:
high reps des over 10 repseven 8 . are not useful . beter do hyperextensions . with a light barbell on the regular extension bench not the 45 degrees.[/quote]
So false.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]Field wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.[/quote]
I would be interested in extra detail on this.
You guys HAd to have been doing a sht ton of deadlifts in order for you to not win something like that. [/quote]
I can deadlift 600, the guy who won never went heavier than 405
They put 225 on the bar and I did 53 or 54 reps before time ran out and the guy who won did 61 [/quote]
If that guy doesn’t go over 405 ever, how do you know you are stronger than him? Absolute strength makes all other qualities of strength improve. Single sets to failure are directrly correlated with absolute strength. I am willing to bet he can pull more that you for a single. I know this is pointless to spectulate about on the internet but super high rep sets definitely have their place in training.
I can speak from personal experience, myself and those I coach, increase rep records with submax weights make you strong as shit on the platform.
[quote]BecometheFuse wrote:
Using the BBB template for 531, I do high rep deads after my heavy squat sessions, and do the high rep squats after my heavy deadlifts. Has been working great for me.[/quote]
yeah this is a solid plan to follow. boring but big has worked wonders for me.
[quote]BecometheFuse wrote:
Using the BBB template for 531, I do high rep deads after my heavy squat sessions, and do the high rep squats after my heavy deadlifts. Has been working great for me.[/quote]
x2
another way to do them is pick a weight and a time limit, and do as many singles as you can.
Sadiv deadlifts - from Martin Rooney
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]Field wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.[/quote]
I would be interested in extra detail on this.
You guys HAd to have been doing a sht ton of deadlifts in order for you to not win something like that. [/quote]
I can deadlift 600, the guy who won never went heavier than 405
They put 225 on the bar and I did 53 or 54 reps before time ran out and the guy who won did 61 [/quote]
If that guy doesn’t go over 405 ever, how do you know you are stronger than him? Absolute strength makes all other qualities of strength improve. Single sets to failure are directrly correlated with absolute strength. I am willing to bet he can pull more that you for a single. I know this is pointless to spectulate about on the internet but super high rep sets definitely have their place in training.
I can speak from personal experience, myself and those I coach, increase rep records with submax weights make you strong as shit on the platform.[/quote]
And I guess this is why on the intensification phase, you go for a RM on the supplementary exercises instead of say 3 sets of 5 with the same weight?
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
[quote]Field wrote:
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Prime example, I did a Crossfit meet and despite the fact that I could out deadlift the other guys in the competition by 200 pounds those little fuckers beat me on reps. Their conditioning was simply better than mine.[/quote]
I would be interested in extra detail on this.
You guys HAd to have been doing a sht ton of deadlifts in order for you to not win something like that. [/quote]
I can deadlift 600, the guy who won never went heavier than 405
They put 225 on the bar and I did 53 or 54 reps before time ran out and the guy who won did 61 [/quote]
If that guy doesn’t go over 405 ever, how do you know you are stronger than him? Absolute strength makes all other qualities of strength improve. Single sets to failure are directrly correlated with absolute strength. I am willing to bet he can pull more that you for a single. I know this is pointless to spectulate about on the internet but super high rep sets definitely have their place in training.
I can speak from personal experience, myself and those I coach, increase rep records with submax weights make you strong as shit on the platform.[/quote]
And I guess this is why on the intensification phase, you go for a RM on the supplementary exercises instead of say 3 sets of 5 with the same weight?[/quote]
Absolutely. First of all, it takes the guess work and equations out of what your max is… because you just fucking do it. Secondly, when you are doing a set of 20+ RDL’s with 500+lbs, you won’t live past one set anyway. Also, for 6 rep max’s, a weight you can do for a 6rm will keep you under 90%. It’s one set of submaximal weight for maximal intensity. You can only do that once.
X10000 on everything StormtheBeach wrote.
Agreed with Storm.
High rep pulls are not easy by any means, but if you’re pulling for reps you are doing the following:
- working form…I reset each rep completley, no touch and go.
- strengthening the shit out of all deadlift related muscles…particularly the grip, I have NEVER had a grip issue
- being awesome.
Doing primarily low rep work may be fine for some, but I firmly believe incorporating the 5x10 work and repping out on my last sets of 5-3-1 got me to a 600+ pull at 181.
Gains made with higher volumes are more stable than gains made with higher intensities… which is why every good training program is tapered leading into meets and the highest intensities are used during that time. The rest of the training year has to be higher volumes to ensure progress from meet to meet.
Again, the easiest way to differentiate between high and low volumes is in one big set for a multiple rep maxs, multiple sets of submax weight for time, or max efforts (1, 3, and 5rms because most lifters can be at over 90% with a 5rm).
There are plenty of other ways to keep track of volumes but I am not very smart and these are easy.