Hi everyone. New here, was on another forum previously but they weren’t very welcoming lol.
Just want to give you a little background, I was diagnosed with celiacs 14 months ago and had dropped to 11 stone in weight which was a 1.5 stone drop. I was always lifting and to be honest although not very big I was consistent with it and struggled a lot with my weight. I had ran two previous test only cycles and hadn’t gotten great results although my diet was great (with gluten!!) And my lifting was ok. Little did I know gluten was inhibiting everything!
6 months after my diagnosis I had blood tests which showed I was in the lower end of the testosterone range and other vitamins were low. I proceeded to take iron and vitamin D and plan a future cycle. My weight on starting was 11 stone 3lbs. 12% body fat, I am also 24 years old.
My cycle was:
Weeks 1-4 2.4iu HGH ED (genotropin pharma)
Weeks 4-28 4.8iu HGH ED (genotropin pharma)
Weeks 12-18 50mg Adrol ED (prost)
Weeks 12-22 600mg Test E (prost)
Weeks 14-22 1000iu (500/500) hcg
Weeks 24-26 40mg nolva 50mg clomid
Weeks 26-28 20mg nolva 25mg clomid
Ai was used aromasin 25 e4d
All in all I was on for 10 weeks with a build up of HGH and my first time using it! The carpal was awful at first but I just managed to push through and live with constant pain and needles at night and swollen hands lol.
I gained 3 stone and now sit at 13 stone 10lbs after my pct so only dropped a few pounds. I am now 4 weeks since pct and stayed the same. What a cycle I must say there was huge gains, i think my diet unaffected by gluten and the planning of these compounds really boosted everything. Currently have stretch Mark’s on both triceps.
Any of you done anything like this before? It was awesome and no need for tren right!!! Test and hgh all the way from now on…
That’s great progress, man. And welcome to the forum.
I want to jump to GH but it’s just so damn expensive. It seems like you did the smart thing and ramped your dose up slowly. How was your sleep while on? Any benefits beyond the obvious?
Hey dude. I have severe malnutrition even when not consuming a gluten rich diet so it is impossible to put on weight. Please take that into consideration that they actually prescribe aas to people like myself who have a wasting disease like celiacs. Did you read all of my post or just jump on the know it all band wagon. If you also read I’ve been consistently lifting and eating well for years and my weight was going down slowly. I ended up at a diagnosis and in that first photograph.
I know people who have celiacs and I have never heard of their doctors giving testosterone AND HGH, comeone dude. Never mind in supraphysiological amounts.
I never said they prescribe test and hgh. I have refractory celiacs go look it up, google is your friend.
As for what they prescribe it is in the oral form for keeping weight on and I also never said that I had taken anything, I wasnt quite at the weight or damage to be prescribed it (yet). But you have missed my point completely. You never read the thread and jumped on the training and nutrition. So with refractory celiacs how ak I supposed to gain muscle and weight??? Give me your expertise please???
I would try the peptides if u want to try hgh there is a few websites out there and would recommend looking at reviews. Peptides have huge benefits over hgh imo
Thanks very much! So first of my friend is prescribed it and sold me it cheap and also the last 5 weeks I had used peptides (forgot to mention). I would take it roughly three times a day, morning, 5 PM and before bed. The sleep was unreal you found it very difficult to get up in the morning and also had very vivid dreams. The only down side is feeling tired throughout the day whilst working. I noticed a drop in body fat but I didnt get this sense of well being everyone goes on about.
The pepetides I got from the uk. And to be fair that was the equivalent to the hgh I was taking maybe even stronger. Roughly releases 2-3iu per inj of them. So I was taking those the same time and it was really cheap. The gentropin is like 400$ for 36iu to buy online lol.
Thanks man! It’s something I can not do being natty and it’s not so common in these areas so I am really blown away by how well I managed to achieve the results. I am weeks away from another cycle but I will update this thread when going again.
I dont really care that your using way more drugs then you need to put on size what bothers me is this mentality that you couldn’t do it naturally because of fucking gluten intolerance. If that’s not the dumbest shit iv heard yet for an excuse I don’t know what is. Atleast just say you want a short cut and instant gratification.
But I will say if you can’t manage to bulk naturally you will never hold on to your gains when coming off cycle.
Let me educate you here sir. I do not have gluten intolerance that is a completely different thing. 100% fact.
What I have is celiacs disease… Now what that means is in the past my lower intestine has had significant damage done to my villi and no longer had adequate surface area to absorb food and nutrients. Now that I’m gluten free my intestine still has not healed. This is called refractory celiacs disease which is very rare only 10% of celiacs disease patients have this and might I point out that gluten intolerance is faily common. So I think you should educate yourself before your opinion makes you look rather silly in my eyes.
Now then my body is almost always in a catabolic state and my corti hormones are much higher than normal people due to this disease. I also have significantly lower iron that most people even with supplements hence my choice of Adrol. By taking these “drugs” I can put my body in a catabolic state and utilize much more of the food my body does manage to intake.
So without any drugs I may very well be able to keep my weight if I was to constantly eat 24/7 but it is not just doable. Please, please guys actually educate yourself as I live with this and know all about it. First guy doesn’t read the post now you throw “gluten intolerance” around like it’s the same thing and you also “know everything”.
It is genuinely laughable.
What’s wrong with a bit of positivity for a guy who is fucked but overcome his bad confidence and got some results?! Jeeez negative Norry’s the pair of you haha.
Again whatever you need to tell yourself to justify the steroid use. I just simply tell myself I want to be swole and I want to do it fast we all have are reasons as I said im not knocking yours. But don’t act like it’s not possible without gear that’s lame. Iv seen people with way more medical issues besides celiacs get swole naturally.
Hey man I never came here with an excuse in the first place did I? I was defended my corner from the first guy who slated me for even using. And yes I get triggered about this shit all I ever hear is eat that you’ll be fine etc and I cant eat a fucking donut!!! But anyway I will say this. I took gear previously so do it fast before I knew any of this shit is going on. But it is true man I was lifting and eating 3000 calories before and my weight was going down slowly which sucked. As I said I could eat all day and night and probably gain something but like you said you want results like and maybe if I was 100% fine then naturally may be the way. But it’s not and I’m really happy with my results and physique so far.
Absolutely. I’m am easy gainer personally I put on a bunch of size naturally but I still wanted bigger faster results. I dont think there is anything wrong with that. I rarely will tell someone they are using drugs for the wrong reasons because we all have reasons that altho may seem silly to one person mean everything to us.
My original point was more towards the fact your cycling with a pct and off time. If you had trouble gaining naturally maintaining gains from a cycle for any extended period of time is gonna be difficult unless you keep cycling back to back. So instead of selling you self short and saying you can’t gain without steroids look into how you can so you can maintain the gains from the cycle over a long period.
