HGH Peptide for My Teen Son?

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Because binge drinking, even acutely is rather dangerous. The harms stemming from acute pancreatitis, renal failure, fatal respiratory depression, arrhythmia/sudden cardiac death (yes, booze can easily induce this even in healthy individuals absent of risk factors), permanent cognitive stunting (I believe given this data present regarding even occasional binge drinking that the majority of the adult populace has acquired some level of ethanol induced cognitive stunting due to teenage binge drinking)… the consequences of binge drinking rack up over the years, particularly regarding a drastic elevation in cardiac risk

I know quite a few kids who have ended up in hospital from binge drinking (one who was in a coma for about a week after falling and breaking the back of his head open on a rock)… I know one who died from choking on his own vomit… I’ve had to take someone to the ER, consistently hold him up while unresponsive as he was choking on his vomit… he then threw up on me (terrible night, I didn’t have a single drink on this particular occasion, I rarely drink but I smoke pot probably 2x monthly, I’m cutting down the frequency though…)

People tend to make very risky decisions when drunk to boot… the amount of fights, stupid decisions/risky sexual encounters (like deciding to drive home after drinking fifteen beers), injuries due to impaired coordination/passing out etc I’ve seen due to booze far surpass what I’ve seen happen with cannabis… sure, a very select few react badly, the risk (one in a million) for cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome does exist… but in terms of overall harm induced… I think most would think cannabis is safer.

These consequences aren’t something I’ve seen with cannabis, thus if kids are going to do SOMETHING in college I’d rather it be passing joints around a campfire, falling over laughing at their own terrible jokes and “high thoughts” than slamming down bottles of vodka, drunkenly hitting on one another, getting into fights and damaging property

Granted I’m well aware hard drugs are also present at college and high school, I’ve even tried a few things besides cannabis… but to me a reduction in teen (and adult) drinking rates is a win

Booze is also quite addictive in the grand scheme of things… the main reason I seldom drink is because I tend to have a problem controlling myself once I start… I’ve only ever had this problem with alcohol, nothing else, it’s just so good at numbing emotional pain… a few drinks for me can send me off on a bender (my alcohol tolerance is extremely high, not because I drink frequently but because… genetics.)… thus I abstain from drinking aside from on very special occasions, as once I start I just want more… and more and more

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Yea, I mean. If you’re goal is to get plastered, getting high is cheaper and easier without the hangover. But, I don’t believe for a second that less people are drinking or kids are making better decisions because they aren’t drinking as much.

Dumb people with lower inhibition do dumb things.

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I 100% agree with you, of all the individuals I know who become aggressive/make awful decisions whilst drunk… 90% of them aren’t the smartest/nicest people to begin with… I feel as if the lowered inhibition merely brings out pent up characteristics, thus if you’re an asshole, it’ll seriously bring it out

With me, aside from drinking giving me the sudden urge to drink more… I don’t tend to make bad decisions under the influence (at least I don’t think I do)… I’ve only had sex once, yet in Spain when I had the opportunity to do… while intoxicated… I refused as I didn’t have a condom on me… I’ll never get in a car with a drunk driver, I won’t take certain substances (have been offered cocaine a few times when drunk, I’ll never touch that shit)… I don’t start fights (aside from… two times… one time I was pushed, so I pushed back… another was when a guy started making racial slurs, proudly stated himself to be a white supremacist), I’m generally a very friendly, sociable, outgoing individual when drunk (aside from the slurred speech and whatnot)… the disinhibition merely makes me more comfortable talking to others who I generally wouldn’t have the nerve to do so, granted travelling has greatly reduced my overall level of social anxiety to a point wherein this isn’t a problem anymore (I’m on the spectrum, so socialising can at times prove difficult for me)

The binge drinking culture in Aus is terrible… and a large majority of the populace, parents included, view booze as the “safe substance”, thus you’ll get parents buying underage kids alcohol, hosting parties wherein everyone gets plastered… the consequences related to drinking as specified above are considered normal, yet things like weed are still viewed within a “reefer madness” type ideology by much of the older populace (say born before 1970)

It’s super amusing to me that this thread has evolved from

Giving kids PED’s → child pornography → societal attitudes towards sex → drugs → the effects of cannabis legalisation → consequences of drinking… how did we get here (granted I certainly didn’t help lol)

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You helped to the point that it was pretty much just you that got us here

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The effects of Unreal drinking and posting.

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My ability to type and present a comprehensive arguement would be far less coherent if that were the case. Grammatical errors would be far more abound… that is if I was to drink and log into T-nation. I have a rule when drinking, that is “turn off my cell phone”…

I think you’re being sarcastic though

You’re… welcome? By the way when I said “I certainly didn’t help” I was referring to not helping keep the thread on track, I could see that message being interpreted incorrectly

Just thought I’d clarify in case it was misinterpreted

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I cant imagine the legal trouble you could get into by illegally dosing your kid with PED’s and it went wrong. This is crazy, take him to a doctor if you really think he has issues, if not put him on a real diet, make sure he is in caloric deficit and let him shed the weight. He can get into PED’s in high school on his own accord, which he probably will knowing his father advocates for them.

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Father of the year. Adopt me please…

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Do you? After several people in this thread have stated that like everyone uses the product? You don’t wonder why you see gas stations, or coffee shops, or whatever at every corner, because you know everyone uses those things. Pot now falls into that category in some parts of the US. High demand = lots of shops.

It’s not legal for any purpose here currently. But that being said, it’s still everywhere. More now than when I was in college, for sure. Or at least people are more open with it. Vaping has a LOT to do with that. You never used to see people like smoking a joint out in public, but now, I see people smoking pot with vape pens in public pretty frequently. I have friends who do it at the gym.

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I do still wonder, according to this map you’d think there’s each pot store is within a few mile radius of each other… how does business stay competitive with one store vs another. I’m not going to debate whether people will purchase it or not… as that’s fairly obvious… but to keep each shop up and running they’d need quite a hefty customer base as cannabis is heavily taxed to begin with, can’t use traditional banking systems to store/transfer funds in these shops either… so how does each store maintain a heavy customer base when there are SO many stores that I’d assume sell the exact same product?

Do they have promotions, advertisements, special products etc?

Honestly, I’ve tried this cannabis from the recreational dispensaries in America… I think it’s far too strong, on my birthday I was given something in the original unopened packaging from a dispensary called “cookies” from CA… Too strong… what’s the point if it’s so potent I can’t socialise or carry out basic tasks… I get that the product is catered towards daily smokers, not intermittent/occasional users but… come on… I don’t think anyone but the most veteran users could seriously handle that, still be able to dance around, have adequate conversation with peers etc

I’ll stick to my brick/compressed/low grade cannabis that I get probably not surpassing 5-7%THC thank yoooouuuuuuu…

INSIDE the gym? Is cannabis a PED? I don’t think so, perhaps it decreases pain tolerance… but it speeds up you’re RHR… I personally wouldn’t ever try this as I have to drive home from gym post workout

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Because there are SO MANY USERS. I don’t think you’re really internalizing the total volume of sales. That’s what maintains the large volume of stores. Just a lot of people smoking pot, so a lot of stores can thrive. It’s not really more complicated than that, most of these stores aren’t advertising for shit. Or selling anything unique. I’ve been to places with streets lined with dispensaries. In colorado, there are areas where if you have 15 stores in a row, there’s a decent chance 3-5 are dispensaries. And if a person wants to buy, they are just as likely to enter any one of those dispensaries, they’re all the same.

A lot of people have this issue with edibles. You have to be SUPER careful with them, especially if you’re not a regular user.

Training isn’t competition. For a regular training session, I think it’s just fine. I’ve known people for years who smoke before every single training session.

Culture is clearly just so different where you are. Nobody thinks twice about driving after smoking. I’m not saying I AGREE with this. I don’t smoke at all, or use edibles (although I’ve tried them). Just saying, it’s incredibly common.

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Really? They have roadside drug tests here wherein you can get pinned if you’ve smoked a joint 1-2 days ago… after getting caught it’s instant loss of license for 6 months and a 1,000$+ fine

Yes culture is different, we are fucking draconian (but drinking a ton is apparently safe and acceptable)

While it’s nothing like being drunk, I don’t feel comfortable potentially putting others at risk because I’ve decided to take recreational drugs… literature indicated a roughly two fold increased risk for crashing under the influence (vs like… 20 fold with booze, so why are the penalties here for having a trace/metabolite of pot so much harsher than getting a DUI…)

The attitudes harboured by many adults here regarding cannabis still view the substance as a dangerous drug… I recall arguing with a couple (they were parents) their arguement as to why it wasn’t okay was merely because “it’s illigal, it’s addictive, it’s dangerous… even alcohol can be addictive” they said… I scoughed… to think cannabis is the dangerous one… these parents have hosted parties at their house wherein kids 18+ get BLIND drunk.

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well sure. That’s because it’s illegal there everywhere. That wouldn’t make sense in a country where it’s legal in multiple states. In about 4 hours, I could drive to a different state, smoke a joint, and make it back home.

agreed.

also agree that alcohol is MUCH worse, in essentially every respect.

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Was legalised here in the ACT (tiny portion of Aus…) that’s a step forward… or backwards considering last year WA decided to quadruple fines for those caught, so it’s like a 1000$ Fine for 1 gram… they initially wanted to instil jail sentences, but there was public protest over that (extreme waste of resources)

I like how sex positive we are… I like the fact that reproductive rights are respected and valued here… but I really dislike all the stupid, nanny state rules and regulations we have here (and despite an ever growing police presence hellbent on catching those for misdemeanours) we have a huge youth gang/crime problem… furthermore the hypocritical government policies, lack of climate action (esp under that retard Scott Morrison) and more make me wish to move away

I’m looking into studying abroad (though I’ve already enrolled in uni here)… Australia used to be so chilled out… what the fuck happened over the past 30-40 years… we’re becoming a police state

If I recall correctly I believe certain nerf guns are banned in NSW, in Vic it’s ILLIGAL to own a sword, even if only for decorative purposes

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Haha i tried this once. I was stood deciding between 20lb and 30lb dumbells for a warm up for probably a good 10 minutes. Then when i finally decided on the 20lb dumbells, I could barely lift them. So i left the gym and went to KFC.

SB

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Sir… I’m trying to currently cut down… you’re mentioning of KFC gives me cravings… I’m triggered

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The only thing I miss being a vegan/vegetarian.

SB

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I tried taking edibles last summer and doing pushups at my place. I thought the high would help give me better MMC. Instead, I fell asleep on the floor.

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In Oregon, where that map is from there is a problem with over saturation. I was there two years ago, and at that time you could buy an ounce for less than $50 at the dispensaries in the rougher areas.

Can be. Arnold I believe has stated he thought it could be a performance enhancer as it helps him eat more. I also know of a high level powerlifter that told me that after he trains he goes home eats as much as he can. Smokes a couple joints and eats as much as he can again. He said he would have to try much harder to maintain his muscle and weight without it (would have to force feed to a higher extent).

I think it can be a performance enhancer when it comes to creative thinking. I have patents on designs I thought of while using cannabis.

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that’s a great point. It’s not directly a performance enhancer in the gym, but I absolutely know people who do this. It was suggested to me by a coach when I told him I had trouble eating enough.

I have a 5 year old son at home, so I wouldn’t keep pot at home, definitely wouldn’t smoke it there. So it’s not a viable option for me.

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