[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Just a quick one please
I can only afoed 100iu of HGH what is best of these 3 options please?
take 2 iu a day for 50 days
take 5 iu a day for 20 days
save up an wait till I can afford more.
I will be stacking the HGH with test and want to get as much gains as possible
Cheers[/quote]
wait, as a minimum 2 iu per day for 6 months. For anabolic effect i would say 4 iu per day for 6 months along with the test at about 1 gram per week, disclaimer: not the healthiest thing to do but it is what works.
[quote]morepain wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
Just a quick one please
I can only afoed 100iu of HGH what is best of these 3 options please?
take 2 iu a day for 50 days
take 5 iu a day for 20 days
save up an wait till I can afford more.
I will be stacking the HGH with test and want to get as much gains as possible
Cheers
wait, as a minimum 2 iu per day for 6 months. For anabolic effect i would say 4 iu per day for 6 months along with the test at about 1 gram per week, disclaimer: not the healthiest thing to do but it is what works.
[/quote]
Thanks for that, wow 4iu a day for 6 months I better go rob a bank!
Well that is kind of the point, too many guys buy one kit and think they have something when in reality all they have done is waste a few hundred bucks. If i were going to buy one kit of anything for short term use i would probably go with igf-1 and inject directly into the muscle group worked immediatley post workout. However i do not consider myself an expert on IGF by any means.
From talking to freinds that have done quite a bit of it and from the information that I have heard/read 3 a day min and preferably 4 for longer periods of time is preferred.
See Ya
I have not yet researched any info on IGF-1, but it looks like I must as a lot of people are advising to cycle the HGH with IGF, I was not aware of direct injections into the muscle though, my understanding is that HGH should be injected into subcontaneus (sp?) tissue?
Just a question on the topic. I’ve been reading about hgh lately and it seems that most of the anabolic effect comes from IGF-1. HGH is converted to IGF-1 by the liver shortly after injection. So wouldn’t it make sense to just use IGF-1?
[quote]E-man wrote:
Just a question on the topic. I’ve been reading about hgh lately and it seems that most of the anabolic effect comes from IGF-1. HGH is converted to IGF-1 by the liver shortly after injection. So wouldn’t it make sense to just use IGF-1? [/quote]
Very interesting point, any further input guys please :)?
I have two contest bodybuilders both using gh at 5 iu’s a day and one taking IGF-1 the other not…going on 5 weeks now and no noticable difference except a grainy look to the IGF injection sites…no noticable difference in size gains.
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
I have two contest bodybuilders both using gh at 5 iu’s a day and one taking IGF-1 the other not…going on 5 weeks now and no noticable difference except a grainy look to the IGF injection sites…no noticable difference in size gains.[/quote]
But with either GH or IGF isn’t it correct that most of the “size” gains will come on down the road once the hyperplasia (if you subscribe to that theory) has created new muscle cells and they have had time to develope?
For me personally i never really knew what i “got” from my GH usage until up to a year later once my body had time to mature the new tissue (i am assuming). For whatever reason what happened to me is basically i would use Gh for 6 months to a year at 4-6iu per day.
I would slowly make some gains during this time but up to a year later i was still growing. At this point I can easily maintain 280 and would probably not ever drop under 250 even if i starved myself. Most of this i truly believe is the direct result of extensive GH usage that has permanently changed my overall amount of muscle tissue (and unfortunatley probably alot of other things).
[quote]Npccompetitor69 wrote:
Its going on 5 weeks now and we have all got incredible gains off the gh I would say 5-7 pounds of lean muscle . 5 ius a day at present[/quote]
[quote]E-man wrote:
Just a question on the topic. I’ve been reading about hgh lately and it seems that most of the anabolic effect comes from IGF-1. HGH is converted to IGF-1 by the liver shortly after injection. So wouldn’t it make sense to just use IGF-1? [/quote]
HGH causes the liver to create IGF-1. It is not a 1:1 conversion. HGH half life is very short, IGF-1 stays in action for quite a while.
It would seem that IGF-1 could be used and skip the HGH. As HGH is so expensive, that could easily be the driving factor.