Hey, Newbies. Here's What to Do

The point was what they did as newbies, not elite status.

The one arm press is one the best exercises most could do, people who are at least of healthy status.
They didn’t show us this one in gym class which is what introduced me to weights, that and I saw pumping iron at age 10.

It was always, hold two bells and presses them alternate or press them at same time.

Never a one arm Dumbell or barbell.

Gym class? Did you expect Olympic level training in grade school?

This hasn’t really been a good way to introduce people to fitness anyway. Group showers and penis inspection days were the worst.

No one got much out of that class except an introduction to weights if they weren’t exposed to them already.

We had two big boys in the class and they both got to do a bench comp with each other at the end of the class.

Both of them were already lifting weights beforehand.

When I say big boys, they were both big gut and big chest fellas, one of them was mostly lard and he lost to the other guy. These were 200# 13 year olds. We saw a 250# bench that day.

@RT_Nomad i actually did tweak my hamstring attempting a heavy Jefferson yesterday.

I also did foolishly take too big of a jump, I should’ve just settled for a 10# PR attempt but since it was a Jefferson dead it wasn’t a danger to my back, I wasn’t even thinking about a possibility of hamstring, I’ve never tweaked a hammie before.

Coulda been worse and I learned from it., I Think……………

I’m always concerned about my back as that had been a lifelong battle.

Back is fine!

I hope that recovery comes quickly for you.

As a comparison, I have a friend who was a 308lb powerlifter. He had squatted 900+lbs in competition. He performed the deadlift sumo style. The Jefferson lift uses similar hamstring involvement as the sumo deadlift. He ruptured his hamstring at his glute doing a heavy sumo deadlift. He never recovered sufficiently to compete again. Since, he has allowed his weight to drop back down in the 240’s.

I seem to be recovering.

I’ve seen some freak things happen regarding hamstrings, one of the strongman contests I did, a guy lifted a somewhat light atlas stone about 230ish, as he lifted it off the ground, he went down and couldn’t get back up. He left on the stretcher.

He did come back to another comp a couple years later, he I guess it wasn’t as bad as it looked?

I replied to @twojarslave but it’s still being approved still after 16 hours, they are really watching me around here……….

I’m no newbie, I’ve competed in strongman for 5years and have had injuries that lasted for 1/2 a year at times. I’ve already hit a 1-rep PR in the Gobblet squat the other night. It sped up recovery.

Shit happens dude, even when you plan perfect, shit happens and guess what, you’ll never see it coming. That is, if the goal is getting as strong and big as possible. The only way to play things 100percent safe is to never challenge yourself. You can pull a hamstring doing hill sprints. Never challenge yourself and you might come out 100 percent “pull/strain” free.

@twojarslave you sir are 100percent perfect!!!
I will continue lifting 1-rep because I will find a way to do this! That’s how I LEARN!!!

Remember these wise words you’ve written here every time you find yourself getting frustrated when someone here doesn’t agree with you.

Good luck in your recovery. Each time you jack yourself up somehow is an opportunity to learn and grow as a lifter.

The problem is, as you get older, learning from experience is no longer a luxury you can afford.

That may be true, but it is still better than the alternative, once shit has happened.

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Weird how following a lot of those laws actually works though?

Wrong attitude. You clearly have a lot to learn.

This is the right attitude.

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Do you know what the blessing is of a little strain?

The blessing is you found a weakness, the weakness could be not thinking you’d strain a certain muscle doing a certain lift and or a lift just exposed a weak area.

It’s a blessing when you learn this.

It’s certainly not the end. The attitude is to correct it.

“Everything Heals” if you saw the podcast I posted in my journal, that’s a quote from a 70year old powerlifter!

Like poor technique? Lifting too heavy because of ego?

But it doesn’t always heal 100%. There are plenty of football players whose injuries ended their careers before they were 30. They can walk. They can run. They can lift weights. But they can’t play football. You have athletes who manage to come back from injuries but are clearly not the same as they once were.

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This is one of those things that sounds awesome but is demonstrably false.

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I had to roll my eyes when I read that nonsense.

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Man you should let Ronnie Coleman know that

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@zecarlo this isn’t football, this training with weights which isn’t even close to impact,
the exception might be Olympic lifting at the highest level which we are talking great force catching cleans and jerks.

But since all you want talk about is doom and gloom, don’t ever let your kids play a sport nor let them ski because more life long injuries happen doing those activities than lifting weights and while lifting heavy can cause some minor injuries, it’s rare they are going to disable someone if they are working mobility and paying attention and not wrapping up/shooting up cortisone to mask pain and going for a PR.

You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

@zecarlo really, I don’t know what I’m talking about huh? Ok you can compare us to football players…
Are they getting hurt in the weight room or something? If so, well those coaches ain’t doing something right. S&C is supposed to be used not only for performance but to protect them from injury.

I supposed I’m wrong again. LOL.