Herschel Walker is Still JACKED at 47

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]st dane wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
So, yes, he would look like he lifted weights…a little.
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After seeing that picture i think he deserves a more credit then that. not that he is hyooge but he is definitly more muscular then most people who lift[/quote]

Saying he looks like “he lifts a little” is doing him a disservice. He’s more jacked and has better proportions [aside from his surprisingly comparably thin thighs] than 98% of the people that post here. He’s a fucking beast.[/quote]

98% of the people who post here aren’t serious either and wouldn’t look anything like that after 20 years of lifting…so again, the response was as it concerns people who take this seriously enough to actually expect very significant physique change over time…NOT the average “overtraining hardgainer” who fills this forum much like the New year’s crowd.

I was pretty sure I made that distinction very clear earlier but clearly underlined and bold faced words are needed to get the real point across.[/quote]

I’m not saying he look better than 98% of the half assers here, I’m saying he looks better than 98% of EVERYONE. His arms and legs aren’t quite in line with his torso and he’s obviously not winning any bodybuilding shows, but he’s jacked, athletic and lean. Saying someone who’s his build looks like he spends more time doing aerobics than lifting is insane. If he posted on this site he’d have one of the 5 best physiques, no questions. [/quote]

Are you trying to tell me what opinion I should have? I was asked what I thought of his development. I could give two shits if you think otherwise.

Apparently writing that he is in great shape is not enough for you. I have to e-gasm over the internet for you.

I have clearly met more people with good genetics for lifting than you have. But then, I also thought 15" arms were pretty damn average until I logged in here and most people hadn’t reached that after lifting for 5 years.

Is he what the 800 natural testerone level male, looks like?

“Is he what the 800 natural testerone level male, looks like?”

maybe thats in some way associated with his severe psychiatric problems?
Look I’m House M.D.!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]studgorilla wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hitting your 40’s doesn’t mean what it used to. Most of the truly top names in bodybuilding are either close to or over 40 at this point. I have even noticed this with many of my patients. When I was a kid, “40 years old” was truly over the hill. Now, it seems many people are just hitting their stride at that age IF they trained hard and stayed in shape to that point.

Look at many of the women hitting their 40’s now. Was there even a such thing as a “MILF” in 1980?[/quote]

Prof X. Using your terminology, and criteria…would you say that Herschel Walker has the type of physique that shouts, “I lift wights!” ?[/quote]

I’m not quite sure what you are getting at…but I swear if I drove to South Houston or 3rd Ward when it warms up, you could find 50 brothers that size and bigger who don’t do shit but play basketball all day.

That is why it amazed me years back when we had that big discussion about what constitutes “average” arm size for grown men who don’t lift. I never even knew most people experienced grown men with arms smaller than 13".

It comes down to genetics and environment because if you grow up in a rough neighborhood with 13" arms, you had better either be funny, fast as hell, hit like a linebacker…or ready to gain some weight so your ass doesn’t get beat.

What does this have to do with anything though?[/quote]

Most will pack a gat first if your in a rough neighborhood.

With a good diet, great genetics, and I mean it’s not like he was doing marathons. He WAS sprinting, if he’s doing BW exercises…pullups, chins, try to do a planche pushup and see if you succeed. There’s many variations of everything to make it very difficult. Gymnasts don’t lift weights, they use the rings…most gymnasts look better than people on this site cause they have good genetics and put everything into their training.
I’m not comparing Herschel to a gymnast now, I’m just trying to make an exagerrated example.

Mike Tyson was 190lbs as a 12 year old and never lifted weights - genetics.

[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Sorry but I’m calling bullshit on never having touched a weight or resistance training of any form in his life. He wouldn’t be the first athlete to make bullshit claims to make himself look like superman.

He might have great genetics, but genetics don’t get a guy that developed on “pushups and eating once a day”[/quote]

His traps are way too big for me to think he never has, but there are a lot of stories that say otherwise. Supposedly he did like 1000 push ups and sit ups each morning and a f load of pull ups and dips. Theres another story that when they tested the bench in college he maxed out at 375, and the coach said to do whatever conditioning he wants which was just the calisthenics.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
With a good diet, great genetics, and I mean it’s not like he was doing marathons. He WAS sprinting, if he’s doing BW exercises…pullups, chins, try to do a planche pushup and see if you succeed. There’s many variations of everything to make it very difficult. Gymnasts don’t lift weights, they use the rings…most gymnasts look better than people on this site cause they have good genetics and put everything into their training.
I’m not comparing Herschel to a gymnast now, I’m just trying to make an exagerrated example.

Mike Tyson was 190lbs as a 12 year old and never lifted weights - genetics.[/quote]

I think alot of these guys obsessively workout and focus mentally on growth to an extreme subsconscious level. Yes there are genetics involved. When I was 15 years old, I was 180 lbs and fairly lean…not as good as Tyson, but I imagine if I were born in his environment with my genetics perhaps I woudl have subsconsciously made myself even larger.

Dang he is jacked. Definitely looks like he lifts weights.

Genetics are sometimes overrated. Handwork combined with intelligence is the key to achieving your physique goals. I went from 180lbs to 240lbs with improved athleticism and dance moves and I cant even get my biceps to Grow!

If anyone reading this has any tips on how to get my arms to grow please PM me. My back and chest are ballooning but my arms are stagnating…

Anyway I saw Herschel Walker on PTI the other day. When Tony asked how he kept in such good shape considering his age he replied hes just continued to do the same regiment he has always done; basically doing pushups all the time. This man is the epitome of gifted but he is an outlier. Hard-work is where its at, just ask Prof X. He has become successful in his profession (making 6 figures) and has become a physique king. One of the reasons none of us can challenge his arguments is because of these facts, even though some on this forum are smarter than him.

In a way I hate to bring this up, but I can’t help but think of people like Herschel whenever I see reference to that stupid fucking Casey Butt equation, and his thought that he captured the measurements of the genetic elite.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]studgorilla wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]studgorilla wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hitting your 40’s doesn’t mean what it used to. Most of the truly top names in bodybuilding are either close to or over 40 at this point. I have even noticed this with many of my patients. When I was a kid, “40 years old” was truly over the hill. Now, it seems many people are just hitting their stride at that age IF they trained hard and stayed in shape to that point.

Look at many of the women hitting their 40’s now. Was there even a such thing as a “MILF” in 1980?[/quote]

Prof X. Using your terminology, and criteria…would you say that Herschel Walker has the type of physique that shouts, “I lift wights!” ?[/quote]

I’m not quite sure what you are getting at…but I swear if I drove to South Houston or 3rd Ward when it warms up, you could find 50 brothers that size and bigger who don’t do shit but play basketball all day.

That is why it amazed me years back when we had that big discussion about what constitutes “average” arm size for grown men who don’t lift. I never even knew most people experienced grown men with arms smaller than 13".

It comes down to genetics and environment because if you grow up in a rough neighborhood with 13" arms, you had better either be funny, fast as hell, hit like a linebacker…or ready to gain some weight so your ass doesn’t get beat.

What does this have to do with anything though?[/quote]

I’ve always appreciated your bluntness, frankness and perspective. You’ve used the phrase “looks like he lifts weights” before when describing people…and I think I knew what you meant. I also know folks who think anybody benching 225 or sporting any visble muscularity must be on 'roids, and I’m frustrated and disappointed by such mass ignorance.

Then we have Mr. Walker. A “middle-aged” dude with the kind of physique that 99.9% of the gym-goers will never attain…yet he’s famous for “not lifting weights”. Just wanted to hear your take, in light of the casually used phrase…“looks like he lifts”. Thanks [/quote]

The only reason the phrase “looks like he lifts” EVER came up is because of the overload of people lately who claim they train hard…but who don’t look like they’ve seen the inside of a gym ever.

Walker is in great shape…about as great a shape as I have seen on very active people growing up who played sports of some kind and maintained that level of intensity.

Comparing him…a professional ex-football player who is roughly in the same shape as his best days on the field with the average person on this site who claims they are overtraining because they worked out more than twice this week…is a huge fucking mistake. They are on two different planets.

If the average gym goer had the mentality that they were going to lift weights as if they were going to war, THEN we would never have to make comments about “he looks like he lifts weights”.

How many people here who claim to have lifted for 10+ years do you think look anything like Walker does right now?

Hint…that is because of his work ethic, something you either have or you don’t.

I bet HE doesn’t whine about overtraining.
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I, for one, have been “lifting” for about 16 years, and I can attest that I have nowhere near the discipline and fortitude Walker does!! Sheee-it!!! That’s something that I definitely have to get locked in prior to deploying this summer. As for the picture that was shown of him, that thing is not what he looks like. He doesn’t look Simean at all, really. His physique resembles that of a larger Randy Couture, in my opinion. Just my thoughts…

[quote]red04 wrote:
In a way I hate to bring this up, but I can’t help but think of people like Herschel whenever I see reference to that stupid fucking Casey Butt equation, and his thought that he captured the measurements of the genetic elite.[/quote]

Bingo. The very fact that he thought the people with the best genetics all go into competitive bodybuilding made everything he stated false from that point onward.

The very premise assumes no “great genetics lifters” ever go into LAW, ENGINEERING, MEDICINE or PRO SPORTS.

Clearly, everyone with the genes for big muscles only has ONE talent.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]st dane wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
So, yes, he would look like he lifted weights…a little.
[/quote]

After seeing that picture i think he deserves a more credit then that. not that he is hyooge but he is definitly more muscular then most people who lift[/quote]

Saying he looks like “he lifts a little” is doing him a disservice. He’s more jacked and has better proportions [aside from his surprisingly comparably thin thighs] than 98% of the people that post here. He’s a fucking beast.[/quote]

98% of the people who post here aren’t serious either and wouldn’t look anything like that after 20 years of lifting…so again, the response was as it concerns people who take this seriously enough to actually expect very significant physique change over time…NOT the average “overtraining hardgainer” who fills this forum much like the New year’s crowd.

I was pretty sure I made that distinction very clear earlier but clearly underlined and bold faced words are needed to get the real point across.[/quote]

I’m not saying he look better than 98% of the half assers here, I’m saying he looks better than 98% of EVERYONE. His arms and legs aren’t quite in line with his torso and he’s obviously not winning any bodybuilding shows, but he’s jacked, athletic and lean. Saying someone who’s his build looks like he spends more time doing aerobics than lifting is insane. If he posted on this site he’d have one of the 5 best physiques, no questions. [/quote]

Are you trying to tell me what opinion I should have? I was asked what I thought of his development. I could give two shits if you think otherwise.

Apparently writing that he is in great shape is not enough for you. I have to e-gasm over the internet for you.

I have clearly met more people with good genetics for lifting than you have. But then, I also thought 15" arms were pretty damn average until I logged in here and most people hadn’t reached that after lifting for 5 years.[/quote]

And I could give two shits what you think. You have a terrible attitude man. Truly terrible. And, if someone isn’t 260+ with 20" arms you can only muster backhanded compliments at best. And, how can you say you’ve met more people with better genetics than me? Pretty sure we grew up in the same city. You referenced 3rd ward, I spent two years at CLC.

I’ve met tons of “freaks”, and even though I’m as skeptical as anyone here, I can believe Walker got like that through push-ups and self belief. What I’m saying is, even IF all he’s done are push-ups and track work he still looks like he lifts more than a little. The dude’s in tremendous shape, and the fact that he’s damn near 50 makes it that much more impressive.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]st dane wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
So, yes, he would look like he lifted weights…a little.
[/quote]

After seeing that picture i think he deserves a more credit then that. not that he is hyooge but he is definitly more muscular then most people who lift[/quote]

Saying he looks like “he lifts a little” is doing him a disservice. He’s more jacked and has better proportions [aside from his surprisingly comparably thin thighs] than 98% of the people that post here. He’s a fucking beast.[/quote]

98% of the people who post here aren’t serious either and wouldn’t look anything like that after 20 years of lifting…so again, the response was as it concerns people who take this seriously enough to actually expect very significant physique change over time…NOT the average “overtraining hardgainer” who fills this forum much like the New year’s crowd.

I was pretty sure I made that distinction very clear earlier but clearly underlined and bold faced words are needed to get the real point across.[/quote]

I’m not saying he look better than 98% of the half assers here, I’m saying he looks better than 98% of EVERYONE. His arms and legs aren’t quite in line with his torso and he’s obviously not winning any bodybuilding shows, but he’s jacked, athletic and lean. Saying someone who’s his build looks like he spends more time doing aerobics than lifting is insane. If he posted on this site he’d have one of the 5 best physiques, no questions. [/quote]

Are you trying to tell me what opinion I should have? I was asked what I thought of his development. I could give two shits if you think otherwise.

Apparently writing that he is in great shape is not enough for you. I have to e-gasm over the internet for you.

I have clearly met more people with good genetics for lifting than you have. But then, I also thought 15" arms were pretty damn average until I logged in here and most people hadn’t reached that after lifting for 5 years.[/quote]

And I could give two shits what you think. You have a terrible attitude man. Truly terrible. And, if someone isn’t 260+ with 20" arms you can only muster backhanded compliments at best. And, how can you say you’ve met more people with better genetics than me? Pretty sure we grew up in the same city. You referenced 3rd ward, I spent two years at CLC. I’ve met tons of “freaks”, and even though I’m as skeptical as anyone here, I can believe Walker got like that through push-ups and self belief. What I’m saying is, even IF all he’s done are push-ups and track work he still looks like he lifts more than a little. The dude’s in tremendous shape, and the fact that he’s damn near 50 makes it that much more impressive.[/quote]

Wait, so me saying he is in great shape isn’t enough, I have to FUCKING PRETEND that he looks TO ME like someone who spends a lot of time lifting weights? HE DOESN’T. He looks like a guy with great genetics who trains just like he says he does.

Deal with it.

I never actually saw you say he’s in great shape until now. I saw you say he looks like he does lots of aerobics and lifts… a little. Great shape works.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I never actually saw you say he’s in great shape until now. I saw you say he looks like he does lots of aerobics and lifts… a little. Great shape works.[/quote]

Then fucking apologize for your own lack of attention. Why the fuck do you guys come out of the woodworks to nitpick every single word uttered by my computer screen when most of the time you don’t even have all of the facts?

Does this give you a rush?

Bigorexia and it’s implications are VERY real.

ProfX, you live in Biggoverse, and I’ve lived and trained among different athletes (for the most part, track/football and martial arts) for most of my life, and let me say: to imply Herschel looks like he trained “a little” with weights is completely absurd.

Nobody looks like this he trains “a little”. Most people train “a little”.
The vast majority of bodybuilders that won’t use steroids will never look like this.
Even dilligent, juicing bodybuilders don’t often look like that.
Not even Herrschel looks like this.

Yes: the picture on page #2 has been manipulated. (rather unprofessionally and ham handed)

And even though he looks like an inflated He-Man (except the quads) he’s still not big enough to look like he seriously pushes the iron?

Laughing myn Arsch off.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I never actually saw you say he’s in great shape until now. I saw you say he looks like he does lots of aerobics and lifts… a little. Great shape works.[/quote]

Then fucking apologize for your own lack of attention. Why the fuck do you guys come out of the woodworks to nitpick every single word uttered by my computer screen when most of the time you don’t even have all of the facts?

Does this give you a rush?[/quote]

Settle down big guy, it’ll be ok.

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

Hard-work is where its at, just ask Prof X. He has become successful in his profession (making 6 figures) and has become a physique king. One of the reasons none of us can challenge his arguments is because of these facts, even though some on this forum are smarter than him.[/quote]

Jesus christ, take the guy’s dick out of your mouth. You can respect him without fawning all over him like you caught The Ghey.