Thanx for all the input and feedback…and to Amish for all the sound advice and obvious knowledge in this. I know I did this doing squats and using bad technique. My lower back only hurts if I do squats or lunges. I’m ok for now and a surgeon I know told me not to mess with it (surgery) until it got really bad. I’m going to try the Macenzie (sp?) thing. How long should you do it? Ect. Has anyone heard of Nuceloplasty of IDET? They are two relatively new procedures for herniated discs. I don’t know anyone who has had those procedures done and I’d like to find out about them a little more. If you know about it let me know…thx again. Take care of yourselves!!!