This is a fucking joke. Is this what powerlifting is becoming?? At least the WPO/APF can claim they’re squats are at parralell most of the time, even if they don’t break it. But i’d be surprised if this guys ARSE even got below his knees.
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/video/Jim-Grandick/1063-squat
I find that it is really hard to judge depth from a video of a squat taken head on. There are plenty of other world record videos that don’t “look” like they’d pass.
You probably aren’t aware that Grandick actually asked to have this lift removed from the books because he knew it was no good, right?
www.powermagonline.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=010233
Head on views suck, but it was painfully obvious that was a bogus pass. Even he said it was terrible and asked that it be stricken from the books.
Regardless of the depth I’m still impressed by the fact that his knees didn’t buckle with over a thousand pound load them. I’m pretty sure that that much weight would snap me in half.
That was an honorable thing he did, considering he moved about four inches.
Yeah but the bad part is the judges still passed it. Probably because it was a smaller meet and he is a world class lifter. Which is stupid, but it happens.
[quote]SprinterOne wrote:
You probably aren’t aware that Grandick actually asked to have this lift removed from the books because he knew it was no good, right?
www.powermagonline.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=010233 [/quote]
No I wasn’t aware of that, thanks.
For the people who said about it being hard to judge depth from the front. I agree on most calls but on this one it’s plainly obvious that from ANY angle it was way high.
Judging is inherently prone to error. I have seen squats from the side that looked good/bad. But when I the other guys that saw the same lift came away with the opposite impression. Many things- the lifters propritons, stance, how they wrap their knees and the color of their suit can all lend to an optical illusion. Plus, depth is somthing that a lifter is at for a split second. Blink and you might miss it.
The human element in judging creates bad calls in all feds. I think the thing that makes the APF more susceptible to high squats getting passed is that judging in the APF should, by mandate, err on the the side of the lifter. Ergo- if a judge isn’t totally sure what he just saw, he should give the lifter the benfit of the doubt. For better or for worse, the ability of the world PLing community to review these judgement calls by video over the internet, creates an interesting dynamic to the judging process.
I can’t believe the guy asked for it to be pulled from the record books. What an outstanding competitor. Truely a class act.
Another “problem” with the APF is actually something I think has good origins. At most APF meets I’ve been to, the head judge will rarely, if ever, call depth. In most cases this is very good, because the view of whether or not the lifter is below parallel is obscured from the front view nine times out of ten. So this puts most lifters in the position of just needing one side judge to go his way.
In this case, that should not have even happened, but it does allow for some bad squats to get in. (While calling depth from the front might keep some of these bad squats out, it has its own problems which are for another thread.)
One odd example of this is Garry Frank. He has squatted uneven for years - one side lower than the other. And he would go entire meets just getting two white lights each time - one from the head judge and one from the side he was lower on. Kind of funny.
As I’ve said before, any more than 2 white lights and you went too low!
I was at this meet and yes he was no where near low enough. I was glad to see that he asked to have it taken off the books. The judges were a lot more harsh to the less known or unknown lifters. I did enjoy the meet however.