Hey guys, pretty new to trt and could use some help getting dialed in, and also wanted to get a few more oppinions on my doctors methods before taking some of this stuff.
24 year old male
5,7" 208lbs 18%bf
I do not have any history of AAS use OTHER than a 6week dbol cycle at 15mg per day when I was 18 and I highly doubt that is the cause now. My brother has low test too, he is 25 years old. I finally looked into getting my test checked last Febuary. At that time I was still in the service and those guys are tards when it comes to test. My initial level was 282 ng/dl total test. They did not draw any others but it got me going in the right direction. Also, their lab range was 132-813 ng/dl and was told my test was fine. I saw a civilian doctor as soon as I seperated from the service and had some more lab work done.
total test 232 ng/dl (348-1197)
free test 6.0 pg/ml (9.3-26.5)
vit D3 13.50 ng/ml
prolactin 18.1 ng/ml(3.7-17.9)
LH 1.96 mIU/ml
I started test cyp 100mgs every 7days in April, since then I have ajusted to 100mgs every 5days
and my most recent lab work
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL 167 125-200mg/dl
HDL 42 >= 40mg/dl
TRIGLYCERIDES 117 <150 mg/dl
LDL 102 <130 mg/dl
GLUCOSE 82 66-99mg/dl
VITAMIN D3 45 30-100ng/dl
TSH 2.06 .040-4.50 mIU/L
T4 free 1.2 .8-1.8 ng/dl
T3 free 3.7 2.3-4.2 pg/ml
T3 reverse 18 11-32 ng/dl
ALBUMIN 4.8 3.6-5.1g/dl
SHBG 21 10-50nmol/L
ESTROGEN Total 205 130 or less pg/mL
Test total 893 241-827 ng/dl
Free Test 23.9ng/dL
Bioavailable test 622ng/dl
IGF 1 207 83-456ng/mL
I have much more on those labs, if you need to see anything please be specific about which one I should post. So after this most recent lab work my doctor has told me to continue 100mgs of cyp every 5 days, start taking clomid 50mg daily to get the estrogen down and help keep things normal down there, and I aslo picked up some CJC-1295 from him. Says that will help elevate growth horomone and I could get as big as i wanted taking that, also help me lean out too. Again I have never taken anything other than a low dose dbol before this, so I am not sure what to expect. Seems like 50mg of clomid everyday is alot just for the low dose of test that I take. And any word on this CJC stuff? Said he has that compounded for him and had prob 200 people using it. I wonder if he was just trying to market it but he said i could purchase it online but not really sure about what you would be getting. So i bought the CJC 1295 from him $125 for 5vials (3 months supply). I picked up the clomid from the pharmacy today for $5 dollars. I wanted to get a little input before I start taking all of this. Any help would be aprecitated. Thank you for your time. heres what it looks like
Test cyp 100mg every 5days
clomid 50mg daily
CJC-1295 30 units every other day
I don’t have a ton of time to go into a lot of detail but here you go. Feel free to PM me.
Drop the Clomid and switch to Aromasin. Clomid isn’t an AI and that’s what you’re after. Clomid is an agonist and antagonist all in one. Basically it’s a weak estrogen that blocks E2 at breast tissue but acts as estrogen elsewhere. It will make you feel like shit and it will not lower E2. What you want is an aromatase inhibitor.
CJ-1295 is a waste of time. I’ve run peps and HGH and the peps are a joke. HGH is ok but it sure is a lot of money for limited results. On top of that every time you turn around it’s time to stick yourself with another needle. At 24 you have zero need for HGH.
[quote]brentf13 wrote:
I don’t have a ton of time to go into a lot of detail but here you go. Feel free to PM me.
Drop the Clomid and switch to Aromasin. Clomid isn’t an AI and that’s what you’re after. Clomid is an agonist and antagonist all in one. Basically it’s a weak estrogen that blocks E2 at breast tissue but acts as estrogen elsewhere. It will make you feel like shit and it will not lower E2. What you want is an aromatase inhibitor.
CJ-1295 is a waste of time. I’ve run peps and HGH and the peps are a joke. HGH is ok but it sure is a lot of money for limited results. On top of that every time you turn around it’s time to stick yourself with another needle. At 24 you have zero need for HGH.[/quote]
Yup…
Also very surprised your doc is pushing peptides…are you in the US?
I wasnt sure about the science behind the AI but I did figure it would be better. We talked about using and AI and he said lets try this first and see. He said I could have muscle aches and cramps taking the AI and that the clomid would do more to keep semen volume up and also get the estrogen down. I couldnt afford HGH and I wouldnt care to mess with it right now honestly. I was going to give the CJC a whirl to see if it helps me lean up a bit. I live in Tennessee, so far I like this doctor he seems on top of stuff.
Well I’ve heard of much crazier things from doctors so he might be a keeper. I think an AI and HCG is a better way to go than clomid but it does work to keep the “boys” alive.
I have tried to PM a few of you guys and I get a message saying that I do not have permission. Yea so I guess my doc is pretty damn legit. I never started the clomid. I called his office last week and left a message for him requesting to use an AI instead. They called back a few days later and asked which pharmacy should we send it to? So i have a script for Arimidex… They are each 1mg and the bottle says to take 1 per day?? I know that is too much, ive read to take 1mg per week spit into EOD dosing??? also ive read up on this stuff and sounds like it could have some nasty side effects. are guys using this with TRT safely? Helpful? Thanks again for your time.
1 mg per week is a good starting point. Split it into quarters if you can and dose accordingly, otherwise half pills twice per week.
Yes many guys are using it safely (as far as we know lol)
Your doc is good to write it for 1 mg/day if insurance is covering, that way you can get a month supply (30 pills) that actually lasts you much longer. This is good if insurance will only cover one copay per month.