Just got my blood work back. Can you guys help?
Currently on: 50mg E3D, so roughly 150mg a week. TEST E
Estrogen: 59
SHBG: 17
Testosterone: 613
Free Testosterone: 145
Blood work was done on the day I was suppose to pin and before I pinned
Why are my levels so low for my dose? I’ve seen tons of people hitting 150mg a week and they are 1000-1400 Test levels.
I’ve always thought I’ve had low test, so I started test e in December and was little dumb at first and changing dose like crazy and now have been at 150mg a week for 4 months. Just now feeling like it’s starting to hit me decently good, I feel good in the gym, gaining size, but I kinda just had a feeling my levels would be this “low”
What should I do to get them up to 1000 or more? Am I just a shit responder to test? Do I have other underlying issues? What do you guys recommend?
You’re a low responder.
That being said if you feel good why would you wanna mess with your protocol? TRT should not be about chasing numbers. It is the lowest dose you can take for symptom relief while still maintaining good bloods.
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Okay, what do you mean not even close? A few people have told me with E3D pinning it’s technically 125 mg a week is this what you are talking about?
Thanks man. If I were to start having estrogen symptoms what would I need to do to get it down a little? I haven’t been showing signs, but I wanna be precautious and know what to do if it does happen. I have Arimidex 1mg tabs I just don’t want to crash my E.
You could take .5mg x 2 per week and see how you do. We are all different when it comes to this stuff so you will need to see what works for you. If you stay on the same protocol and then draw bloods in another month or two and estrogen hasn’t moved i think you’ll be in good shape. You could also get some aromasin to stop the conversion but again, your E is not high even if slightly out of range.
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Yes. If you’re trying to get yourself dialed in you need to be precise with your dose.
That being said, to echo s.gentz, don’t chase numbers. If you feel good with where you’re at, hold it there. Nowhere is it written that your TT needs to be above 1000ng for symptom relief.
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Gotcha, thanks for the help. Much appreciated
With my acne flared up as bad as it is, I keep hearing bringing my e down just a tad may help. I understand it’s not bad, but a little up. I would say this is the only sign that made me get bloodwork done to se what my E was. Would it be worth it to even try and bring it down a little with AI?
Just take a half tab or quarter tab of your AI then and see if it helps.
That small amount should have ZERO negative effects on you.
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Okay, I got 1mg tabs. I was gonna do a quarter tab twice a week after I pin.
Don’t get dead set on using an AI as part of your normal protocol from here on out. Your TRT dose shouldn’t be high enough to need an AI and your E2 isn’t that high either. I would take 1 quarter tab this week and see how it goes. Then 1 more quarter dose next week and see how you feel.
When I first started TRT. I was told that AI’s were basically the devil and not to be used. Then 3 weeks into TRT I started to get irritated nipples that escalated into full blown fire nipples by week 10 and crazy water weight.
Still I refused to use an AI.
I eventually caved in and took .125mg of my AI once a week for like 3 weeks and it felt like someone poked a hole in me and let all the water out and my nipples went back to normal. I haven’t used an AI since, and I take 160mg per wk. between 2 injections.
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Gotcha, I love always heard AI was the last resort and to be careful because you don’t wanna crash it, but I’m at a dead end with my acne I know it gets worse with test but it’s BAD some days are good and some it’s worse. No more white shirts, pain sleeping sometimes with the amount of bumps I have. Just trying to figure somthjng out and I think my E is causing it. I shower 2-3 tomes a day, I do everything to keep my hygiene perfect and yet it’s still is horrible. I wanna give AI a little test to see if it helps.
So If I take the AI like you mentioned and it works do I need to continue it like that or should 1-2 weeks doing it be enough and if the symptoms continue then take it again?
Take it for 1-2 weeks and see what happens.
If it STARTS to work. Don’t just assume that you need more.
At your TRT dose continually taking an AI could eventually lead to more issues.
Just be very consistent and keep your protocol the same for at least 6 wks. or so before making anymore mods to it.
Don’t worry about the numbers. You can slowly add little tweaks here and there after you get to a stable place and get your acne under control.
When I first started TRT. It was a roller-coaster of different side effects or at least perceived side effects.
However, I just kept plugging away staying disciplined and consistent with my protocol and my symptoms went away damn near overnight.
I guess my body finally got used to TRT and finally calmed down.
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Thanks man. I was at 250 a week and decided about 4 months ago to lower my dose and switch to 3 times a week pinning. I think that’s what screwed me over because that’s when acne went through the roof. I’ll give it ago and see how it works out thanks again
