I need some help trying to figure out how to help my son. He is 18 and just started an extensive workout. He is taking Methyl 1D, Jacked, Creatine and protein and I am worried about his health. I got him some organ shield to help hopefully protect his liver until he gets it figured out.
Now he is looking into SERM which I understand they give to cancer patients and he needs a good PCT. Can anyone help me understand and possibly give him some pointers?
Appreciate it.
Yah, he’s 18. Just have him take protein/creatine/multi-vitamin and have him eat a lot, and lift heavy stuff. At 18 he has so much more he can be focusing on than all the supplements they have out there.
I couldn’t agree more. I just wish I could convince him of that. He wants to pump up fast and thinks he has to take all of this to do it.
[quote]NeedUrHelp wrote:
Now he is looking into SERM which I understand they give to cancer patients and he needs a good PCT. Can anyone help me understand and possibly give him some pointers?
Appreciate it.
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whoawhoawhoa. Why is your son fucking around with SERMs? And by PCT, do you mean “Post-cycle therapy”?
This site is generally against taking definitive stances on anabolic steroids (generally regarded as an individual choice). But if I had an 18 year old friend (much less child) looking into screwing with anabolics, I would kick him directly in his ass.
Like LM said, just tell him to take the creatine, protein powder, and eat a lot of food. And maybe emphasize the fact that while creatine and such are fine, screwing around with AAS and such can potentially f*** him up for the long term.
Ok so is it ok to take Methyl 1D with the creatine and protien?
^ Let me guess. You aren’t a parent. You’re the son. Do I win the game?
Methyl 1 D, SERMS, test boosters, Anti-Estrogens, and anything affecting hormones in anything other than a natural way shouldn’t even be considered until a much later age. I’m not anti-steroids/etc. but save them for when it’s actually needed, or when you’re not going to screw up your natural hormone profile because they’re already very unstable due to your (sons?) age. Dial in the nutrition and training - both of those lacking can even screw up a solid AAS cycle and be a big waste of money.
Every kid in the world wants a quick fix but if this is you the parent speaking and not the kid - it’s your job to actually inform them (and not just feed them bullshit from the media) and protect them. Taking that kind of stuff this young as I’ve said has the potential to have a lot of negative affects. The cost:benefit ratio isn’t close to good here considering your hormones are already going to be peaking at that age. If you’re not gaining/growing you’re simply doing the major stuff wrong - nutrition and training.
No amount of supplements is going to make up for shitty nutrition and training - no matter what the marketing might have you think.
Do you still support your son? If so, just do what my dad does and threaten to stop supporting him. If not, just let him learn the hard way. It’s honestly going to be tough to convince your son about the dangers of what he’s doing cause all he cares about is getting quick results now instead of what will happen to him years from now. Just take a look at all the idiots who tan 3X a week. They know the dangers of what they’re doing, but they still do it.
I know it doesn’t mean much, but I’ve been lifting with the proper structure for 1 year now after 2 years of lifting like an idiot and I’ve made great gains in my numbers just by taking two scoops of whey protein after workouts.
I am the mother and a confused one. I know absolutely nothing about this kind of stuff and I am trying to protect him! He lives at home but works so he can go out and buy what he wants but he has asked for my advice so I am trying to get the correct information so I know how to guide him. He just seems he** bent on taking this stuff and if I can’t talk him out of it I’m just wondering what might be the safest.
I told him I signed up on here and I wanted him to get on and read some of the things I have to better educate himself. I hope he does but teenagers have a mind of their own. I truely am just looking for some good advise and I appreciate what you have said so far.
Going to assume you really are a parent:
Advice: get your son to pull his head out of his ass and not f*** with his hormones while he is this young.
Serious question, though: what is your son’s education level? Like, is he attending a post-secondary institution of some kind? The reason I ask is that if he’s a knucklehead, then your options for helping him may be limited assuming you want to maintain your relationship with your son (i.e., outside of calling the cops on his illegally buying steroids or something). Maybe consider some sort of intervention or something. It’s hard to say while not knowing much about your kid.
At age 18, there is no “smart” or “safe” way to screw around with hormones. There are certainly “extremely stupid,” “dumb,” and “less-dumb” ways of doing so, but is that really what you want to resign yourself to with your kid?
[quote]NeedUrHelp wrote:
I told him I signed up on here and I wanted him to get on and read some of the things I have to better educate himself.[/quote]
I was going to suggest that he sign up himself, but since you already did, you might want to clarify to him that you don’t want to know his username and you won’t be coming back to this site, so he doesn’t think you’re ready to check in on him.
He does sound like the average teenager who knows everything already and is setting himself up for trouble by over-focusing on the wrong supplements, but if he does show up here, you can rest assured that he’ll be soundly beaten about the head and neck with truth, knowledge, experience, and tough love.
Out of curiosity, how tall is he and what’s he weigh?
To the mom (or maybe the son): Paul Carter has a strength blog where he addresses your son’s “interest” in very blunt language for an average person. Not allowed to post the link to his blog on this site. You can google Paul Carter strength blog and look for the “Darksidin’…obsessions” article, it was only a few days ago.
Paul Carter looks like, and is strong like, your son wants to be, so perhaps your son will respect what PC has to say. PC is also very good about answering pretty much all questions as well.