Help Stop Obama!

Neuromancer · November 23, 2008, 7:32pm

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.
[/quote]

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.

vroom · November 23, 2008, 11:58pm

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
He claimed that conservatives were changing their tune on the Patriot Act based on a different party occupying the White House.
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So, when people are clamoring the Obama will abuse the Patriot Act and that it’s a scary thing, when before they cheered it, you don’t see this as changing their tune due to who is in the White House?

Yeah, I know, I have go back through years of posts to quote individuals…

Headhunter · November 24, 2008, 1:27am

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.
[/quote]

I see humor and planning are outside of your ken.

I topped that one though recently in SAMA. Actually had to set it up through bodybuilding.com. T’was a true work of art.

Don’t you realize how hard it is to be a real troll, and not just a superficial one? God, you’re dumb.

Neuromancer · November 24, 2008, 2:47am

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.

I see humor and planning are outside of your ken.

I topped that one though recently in SAMA. Actually had to set it up through bodybuilding.com. T’was a true work of art.

Don’t you realize how hard it is to be a real troll, and not just a superficial one? God, you’re dumb.

[/quote]

LOL…you’ve been trying to live that one down,unsuccessfully, for a long time.Nice try with the troll bit,though.

Backpedaling doesn’t help your cause.You’re still a halfwitted moron,and everyone can see it.So you see,it’s you that is delusional.

But you do make me laugh sometimes…

Tiribulus · November 24, 2008, 6:16pm

[quote]vroom wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
He claimed that conservatives were changing their tune on the Patriot Act based on a different party occupying the White House.

So, when people are clamoring the Obama will abuse the Patriot Act and that it’s a scary thing, when before they cheered it, you don’t see this as changing their tune due to who is in the White House?

Yeah, I know, I have go back through years of posts to quote individuals…[/quote]

There’s a bunch of issues I’d change my tune on depending on who’s fingers are on the buttons. The line item veto comes to mind right off the bat. I’d love it if my guys could use it and hate it if the other guys could.

Anybody even halfway politically aware believes certain powers can be as good or bad as the people in charge. I’m just being honest about it. I’m no fan of the patriot act as written, but individuals with the authoritarian elitest views of this incoming group can turn it from an unfortunate, but thus far largely harmless and sometimes beneficial intrusion, into an outright political invasion of privacy.

I’m not necessarily convinced they would do that at this point. I do however, find it much easier to believe that nanny state, we know what’s best for you types like these clowns would.

The difference is, I do believe Bush did it in a genuine though maybe sometimes misguided pursuit of national security. Leftists have a tendency to define national security in terms of what threatens their benevolent aganda.

conorh · November 24, 2008, 6:45pm

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
All I know is, just like the campaign itself, I have seen very little substantive mention of Obama’s race, or anybody else’s, from his critics in these forums. I have been in here a few months now and that has just not been an issue. In the overwhelmingly vast majority of cases.

If it ever did come up it was in the contest of how his brand of policy has been a disaster for the very people it was alleged to have been implemented to help. Once in a great while somebody mentioned that he attended an overtly racist church, but even then the problem was not with his “blackness”.

I have not lost all respect for Professor X personally as he says he now has for me, but Doc there has been 1 million times more concentration on race since after the election and you came back in here. Not even saying if that’s good or bad, just that it is.

I went for stretches of days at a time or even weeks maybe in here without seeing any mention at all of race.

YOU, Professor X, are the one keeping racism on life support in here. Not one of the very vocal conservatives here has given any indication that race is anything like the issue for them that it is for you.

You can call me names and scowl at your monitor wondering how you ever used to like that asshole, but the problem remains with you. Race relations will never improve while black people continue to see this society as a horde of enemies with a KKK gene just waiting for it’s next expression.

I live in the most racist area imaginable left in this nation and it is just not so for most of the whites even here. There are a few simpletons left, but this country is simply not full of black hating bigots.[/quote]

Are you sure, because I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what it’s full of. I’ve grown up rambling around rural areas of the country and they are not bastions of tolerance or equality.

Big_Boss · November 24, 2008, 7:02pm

[quote]conorh wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
All I know is, just like the campaign itself, I have seen very little substantive mention of Obama’s race, or anybody else’s, from his critics in these forums. I have been in here a few months now and that has just not been an issue. In the overwhelmingly vast majority of cases.

If it ever did come up it was in the contest of how his brand of policy has been a disaster for the very people it was alleged to have been implemented to help. Once in a great while somebody mentioned that he attended an overtly racist church, but even then the problem was not with his “blackness”.

I have not lost all respect for Professor X personally as he says he now has for me, but Doc there has been 1 million times more concentration on race since after the election and you came back in here. Not even saying if that’s good or bad, just that it is.

I went for stretches of days at a time or even weeks maybe in here without seeing any mention at all of race.

YOU, Professor X, are the one keeping racism on life support in here. Not one of the very vocal conservatives here has given any indication that race is anything like the issue for them that it is for you.

You can call me names and scowl at your monitor wondering how you ever used to like that asshole, but the problem remains with you. Race relations will never improve while black people continue to see this society as a horde of enemies with a KKK gene just waiting for it’s next expression.

I live in the most racist area imaginable left in this nation and it is just not so for most of the whites even here. There are a few simpletons left, but this country is simply not full of black hating bigots.

Are you sure, because I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what it’s full of. I’ve grown up rambling around rural areas of the country and they are not bastions of tolerance or equality.

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And I’m pretty sure you’re full of it. That may be your experiences but its definitely not the standard norm. Ignorance begets more ignorance.

Wreckless · November 26, 2008, 12:14pm

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
vroom wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
He claimed that conservatives were changing their tune on the Patriot Act based on a different party occupying the White House.

So, when people are clamoring the Obama will abuse the Patriot Act and that it’s a scary thing, when before they cheered it, you don’t see this as changing their tune due to who is in the White House?

Yeah, I know, I have go back through years of posts to quote individuals…

There’s a bunch of issues I’d change my tune on depending on who’s fingers are on the buttons. The line item veto comes to mind right off the bat. I’d love it if my guys could use it and hate it if the other guys could.

Anybody even halfway politically aware believes certain powers can be as good or bad as the people in charge. I’m just being honest about it. I’m no fan of the patriot act as written, but individuals with the authoritarian elitest views of this incoming group can turn it from an unfortunate, but thus far largely harmless and sometimes beneficial intrusion, into an outright political invasion of privacy.

I’m not necessarily convinced they would do that at this point. I do however, find it much easier to believe that nanny state, we know what’s best for you types like these clowns would.

The difference is, I do believe Bush did it in a genuine though maybe sometimes misguided pursuit of national security. Leftists have a tendency to define national security in terms of what threatens their benevolent aganda.[/quote]

Yeah well, that’s not how democracy works. You don’t cheer on a benevolent dictator and start shrieking when he gets replaced. Democracy is about the system. If you think the patriot act is ok, it should be ok regardless of who is in charge.

It’s like saying, the death penalty is on the table, but when my precious butt is in the sling, I’m against it.

Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but that’s not how it works.

Headhunter · November 26, 2008, 12:39pm

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.

I see humor and planning are outside of your ken.

I topped that one though recently in SAMA. Actually had to set it up through bodybuilding.com. T’was a true work of art.

Don’t you realize how hard it is to be a real troll, and not just a superficial one? God, you’re dumb.

LOL…you’ve been trying to live that one down,unsuccessfully, for a long time.Nice try with the troll bit,though.

Backpedaling doesn’t help your cause.You’re still a halfwitted moron,and everyone can see it.So you see,it’s you that is delusional.

But you do make me laugh sometimes…

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‘Backpedaling’? ‘Cause’? LOL! I know you’re a dimwit lib, but I have no cause nor reason to backpedal. I like making fun of the Kenyan and all the idiots who voted for him. I also love firing people up, to think. Living in a world of idiots like you is depressing.

That’s one reason I rip black ‘culture’ — they seem to have this odd desire to live with minimal thought, while blaming whitey for all their troubles. Witness the deplorable high school graduation rates for blacks in this country: won’t finish high school, yet want a good job that pays. LOL!!! Like that’ll ever happen!!

Headhunter · November 26, 2008, 12:43pm

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

Yeah well, that’s not how democracy works. You don’t cheer on a benevolent dictator and start shrieking when he gets replaced. Democracy is about the system. If you think the patriot act is ok, it should be ok regardless of who is in charge.

It’s like saying, the death penalty is on the table, but when my precious butt is in the sling, I’m against it.

Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but that’s not how it works.[/quote]

How do you have a ‘benevolent dictator’ in a democracy? Make sense!!

orion · November 26, 2008, 12:54pm

[quote]Wreckless wrote:

Yeah well, that’s not how democracy works. You don’t cheer on a benevolent dictator and start shrieking when he gets replaced. Democracy is about the system. If you think the patriot act is ok, it should be ok regardless of who is in charge.

It’s like saying, the death penalty is on the table, but when my precious butt is in the sling, I’m against it.

Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but that’s not how it works.[/quote]

Amen.

Big_Boss · November 26, 2008, 1:59pm

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.

I see humor and planning are outside of your ken.

I topped that one though recently in SAMA. Actually had to set it up through bodybuilding.com. T’was a true work of art.

Don’t you realize how hard it is to be a real troll, and not just a superficial one? God, you’re dumb.

LOL…you’ve been trying to live that one down,unsuccessfully, for a long time.Nice try with the troll bit,though.

Backpedaling doesn’t help your cause.You’re still a halfwitted moron,and everyone can see it.So you see,it’s you that is delusional.

But you do make me laugh sometimes…

‘Backpedaling’? ‘Cause’? LOL! I know you’re a dimwit lib, but I have no cause nor reason to backpedal. I like making fun of the Kenyan and all the idiots who voted for him. I also love firing people up, to think. Living in a world of idiots like you is depressing.

That’s one reason I rip black ‘culture’ — they seem to have this odd desire to live with minimal thought, while blaming whitey for all their troubles. Witness the deplorable high school graduation rates for blacks in this country: won’t finish high school, yet want a good job that pays. LOL!!! Like that’ll ever happen!!

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You always backpedal…you cry about being called a racists but fail to clear up the the generalizations and blanket statements you make about “black culture.”

The perceived facts(along with a few actual facts) that you repeat like a broken record do not substantiate an understanding of “black culture.”

YOU started a “Black People’s Perception of Racism” thread. Why don’t you address what is directed at you concerning this argument you continue to make?? Or is that too much to ask of a self-admitted troll??? I swear you’re the lowest of cowards.

Neuromancer · November 26, 2008, 2:59pm

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I’d like to say it doesn’t mean anything to me, but I’m genuinely bummed. I’ve had a lot of good times in these forums with Professor X and I will consider it a loss even if he doesn’t if something like racism turns us into enemies.

This shit is so unnecessary

The problem is that people think that only someone like them can solve a problem: only a woman can deal with women’s issues, only a black man can deal with issues concerning black people, on and on.

This leads to delusional thinking, like that of Prof X. Its the equivalent of a conspiracy theory. The white man is the Illuminati and the black man is the abused slave.

If you talk about anything like this, you get labelled a racist and ignored by Prof X…which is no loss.

The kind of delusional thinking that led your famous thread?

"What’s a good age to buy a vibrator for my daughter? Any way to tell? I’m guessing when she’s 12? Too early?

I would buy it, put it in one of her clothing drawers, with a note saying something like: “Don’t mention this. Just use it, ignore it, throw it away, whatever you want. I love you, Dad.”"

Is that the kind of delusional thinking you’re referring to?

Oh wait,no,you mean that you’re the rational one.

Got it.

I see humor and planning are outside of your ken.

I topped that one though recently in SAMA. Actually had to set it up through bodybuilding.com. T’was a true work of art.

Don’t you realize how hard it is to be a real troll, and not just a superficial one? God, you’re dumb.

LOL…you’ve been trying to live that one down,unsuccessfully, for a long time.Nice try with the troll bit,though.

Backpedaling doesn’t help your cause.You’re still a halfwitted moron,and everyone can see it.So you see,it’s you that is delusional.

But you do make me laugh sometimes…

‘Backpedaling’? ‘Cause’? LOL! I know you’re a dimwit lib, but I have no cause nor reason to backpedal. I like making fun of the Kenyan and all the idiots who voted for him. I also love firing people up, to think. Living in a world of idiots like you is depressing.

That’s one reason I rip black ‘culture’ — they seem to have this odd desire to live with minimal thought, while blaming whitey for all their troubles. Witness the deplorable high school graduation rates for blacks in this country: won’t finish high school, yet want a good job that pays. LOL!!! Like that’ll ever happen!!

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Yep,that’s it.You have a problem understanding the written word,but that is somehow somebody elses’ shortcoming.

I know your self proclaimed quest to get people to ‘think’ makes you all warm and fuzzy inside,but please,at least make a half decent effort to disguise the fact that what you really mean is ‘make people think like me’.Because really,you’re making a piss poor effort.

I’m sure once you’re in a place where you’re surrounded by racist misogynist khaki wearing clones,you will be as happy as a pig in shit.

You are such an exponent of the 1984 jackboot theory of society that it beggars belief how you can actually,with any degree of seriousness,ever use that book as an example of the things you stand against.

But at least you’re mildly amusing occasionally,so carry on.

Professor_X · November 26, 2008, 3:24pm

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
vroom wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
He claimed that conservatives were changing their tune on the Patriot Act based on a different party occupying the White House.