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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Off topic, but got this today…Hilarious

"Something to think about …

You know what would really PISS OFF the Democrats…

Bush should resign now.

Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really PISS OFF the liberals)!!!

Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.

Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK President and the first WOMAN President !!!"

That would piss off “liberals”?

First, I don’t even know one person who classifies themselves as “liberal”. That seems to be a term that conservatives have taken and run with despite the fact that few are actually using it in reference to themselves.

I’m pretty sure if some people label themselves Conservative some people label themselves Liberals.

Right. yet we have several who will claim they are conservatives on this forum…how many have claimed they are “liberals”?

Who much of anywhere outside of some artsy college student is calling themselves a “liberal”?

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

I’m not much for labels and I can’t talk for anyone but my self. Apparently some one is calling themselves a liberal if arts kids are doing it. I have also never used the term “Liberalism” so who you are referring to I do not know.

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

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How am I defending liberals? I am asking who the hell they are. If I look around and see NO ONE claiming to be one yet conservatives are constantly ranting against them, then maybe, just maybe conservatives need to take a step back and stop making up arguments where none exist.

WHO ARE THE LIBERALS? Who is making the statement clear as day that they are one?

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The cable news channel is “completely out of control,” said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

http://www.imao.us/archives/000876.html

I especially like the last one…I guess I?m not just making this shit up.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Off topic, but got this today…Hilarious

"Something to think about …

You know what would really PISS OFF the Democrats…

Bush should resign now.

Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really PISS OFF the liberals)!!!

Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.

Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK President and the first WOMAN President !!!"

That would piss off “liberals”?

First, I don’t even know one person who classifies themselves as “liberal”. That seems to be a term that conservatives have taken and run with despite the fact that few are actually using it in reference to themselves.

I’m pretty sure if some people label themselves Conservative some people label themselves Liberals.

Right. yet we have several who will claim they are conservatives on this forum…how many have claimed they are “liberals”?

Who much of anywhere outside of some artsy college student is calling themselves a “liberal”?

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

I’m not much for labels and I can’t talk for anyone but my self. Apparently some one is calling themselves a liberal if arts kids are doing it. I have also never used the term “Liberalism” so who you are referring to I do not know.

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

How am I defending liberals? I am asking who the hell they are. If I look around and see NO ONE claiming to be one yet conservatives are constantly ranting against them, then maybe, just maybe conservatives need to take a step back and stop making up arguments where none exist.

WHO ARE THE LIBERALS? Who is making the statement clear as day that they are one?[/quote]

Here to make you happy I’ll just throw it out there.

If you are a liberal please respond so Prof X knows who you are. Thank you.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

The cable news channel is “completely out of control,” said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

http://www.imao.us/archives/000876.html

I especially like the last one…I guess I?m not just making this shit up.
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You are picking links where the person writing the article is simply linking “democrats” with “liberals” as if they are one in the same. I want to see who is making the statement that they are a liberal.

Some gay tv host is now the representation of who the liberals are? There wasn’t one quote in that article where she stated she was a “liberal”. I want to see the words, “I am a LIBERAL” written or stated by someone who is not some fringe lunatic.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Off topic, but got this today…Hilarious

"Something to think about …

You know what would really PISS OFF the Democrats…

Bush should resign now.

Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really PISS OFF the liberals)!!!

Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.

Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican, becomes the first BLACK President and the first WOMAN President !!!"

That would piss off “liberals”?

First, I don’t even know one person who classifies themselves as “liberal”. That seems to be a term that conservatives have taken and run with despite the fact that few are actually using it in reference to themselves.

I’m pretty sure if some people label themselves Conservative some people label themselves Liberals.

Right. yet we have several who will claim they are conservatives on this forum…how many have claimed they are “liberals”?

Who much of anywhere outside of some artsy college student is calling themselves a “liberal”?

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

I’m not much for labels and I can’t talk for anyone but my self. Apparently some one is calling themselves a liberal if arts kids are doing it. I have also never used the term “Liberalism” so who you are referring to I do not know.

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

How am I defending liberals? I am asking who the hell they are. If I look around and see NO ONE claiming to be one yet conservatives are constantly ranting against them, then maybe, just maybe conservatives need to take a step back and stop making up arguments where none exist.

WHO ARE THE LIBERALS? Who is making the statement clear as day that they are one?[/quote]

[quote]Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?
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Your saying it is not evil correct? Sounds like a defense to me.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Your saying it is not evil correct? Sounds like a defense to me. [/quote]

Why would I state that liberalism is evil? That makes about as much sense as stating conservatives are evil. What are you asking? So anyone not calling liberals evil is now defending liberals? That really makes sense to you?

Wow. What the hell is wrong with some of you?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

The cable news channel is “completely out of control,” said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

http://www.imao.us/archives/000876.html

I especially like the last one…I guess I?m not just making this shit up.

You are picking links where the person writing the article is simply linking “democrats” with “liberals” as if they are one in the same. I want to see who is making the statement that they are a liberal.

Some gay tv host is now the representation of who the liberals are? There wasn’t one quote in that article where she stated she was a “liberal”. I want to see the words, “I am a LIBERAL” written or stated by someone who is not some fringe lunatic.[/quote]

If someone kills someone else are they a murderer? They may never admit to being a murderer or ever actually say the words, but they still are a murderer. I know you think everyone has to spell out their intentions, but it is possible to be something and not say it.

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?[/quote]

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Your saying it is not evil correct? Sounds like a defense to me.

Why would I state that liberalism is evil? That makes about as much sense as stating conservatives are evil. What are you asking? So anyone not calling liberals evil is now defending liberals? That really makes sense to you?

Wow. What the hell is wrong with some of you?[/quote]

I like how you just took that completely out of context.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.[/quote]

Actually I never labeled anyone a “liberal” I posted an email I received today. You immediately started up with this conservative labeling liberals BS.

(EDIT) Thanks for ignoring most of the post by the way.I guess my point was made.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.[/quote]

Dictionary.com
Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

Dictionary.com
Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?
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I haven’t labeled you either one. If you are so against labels, then why were you telling me I was “defending liberals” when no such action had occurred?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?

I haven’t labeled you either one. If you are so against labels, then why were you telling me I was “defending liberals” when no such action had occurred?
[/quote]

How is that a label?

And you did defend liberals.

You said

Then I said

You can defend “liberalism” that’s fine, but don’t act like you weren’t defending against the “angry right”

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

Dictionary.com
Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?

I haven’t labeled you either one. If you are so against labels, then why were you telling me I was “defending liberals” when no such action had occurred?

How is that a label?

And you did defend liberals.

You said

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

Then I said

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

You can defend “liberalism” that’s fine, but don’t act like you weren’t defending against the “angry right”[/quote]

That statement is NOT defending anyone at all. It is like you only see what you want to see. Defending something would mean I am taking a stance that indicates whatever I am defending is not the way some people describe it. That is not what I did there at all so what are you talking about? I didn’t call them “innocent”. I said many conservatives act as if they are evil…which is TRUE.

Are you denying this? Conservatives even claim they are “destroying America” yet I can’t make the claim that they think they are evil without you claiming I am defending them?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

Dictionary.com
Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?

I haven’t labeled you either one. If you are so against labels, then why were you telling me I was “defending liberals” when no such action had occurred?

How is that a label?

And you did defend liberals.

You said

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

Then I said

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

You can defend “liberalism” that’s fine, but don’t act like you weren’t defending against the “angry right”

That statement is NOT defending anyone at all. It is like you only see what you want to see. Defending something would mean I am taking a stance that indicates whatever I am defending is not the way some people describe it. That is not what I did there at all so what are you talking about? I didn’t call them “innocent”. I said many conservatives act as if they are evil…which is TRUE.

Are you denying this? Conservatives even claim they are “destroying America” yet I can’t make the claim that they think they are evil without you claiming I am defending them?[/quote]

Let?s see. I see what you type and what you have typed in the last few posts are what I have commented on. I didn’t make it up they are your words. I’m not sure where you got “I didn’t call them innocent” from. That was not in anything you or I typed until now. What conservatives act like they are evil…I want exact quotes…Your last statement doesn’t even make sense. I don’t know who you mean is destroying America conservative or liberals? Once again you can claim what you want, but the quote from the email I put up obviously were giving liberals and democrats a bad image and you said conservatives think Libs are evil…if that isn’t defending liberals what exactly is?

It is pretty easy to sit on that fence isn’t it? Once again you do not have to come out and say something word choice and body language(not in this instance) tell a hell of a lot.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

How many people have you labeled a conservative, but they have never actually said they are conservative?

Anyone on this forum that I use that term for will gladly state they are a conservative or correct me if I am wrong. For some strange reason, you all can throw “liberal” at anyone who disagrees with you and it doesn’t matter if they state it isn’t so?

Honestly, look at your reaction here. Simply by questioning you, you tried to label me as “defending liberals”. That makes no sense at all yet you keep doing it.

Dictionary.com
Liberal

  1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
  2. (Often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
  3. Of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

I think a lot of posters on this forum get so caught up in the Republican vs. Democrat Liberal vs. Conservative BS. The fact of the matter is most people are conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For example I am conservative when it comes to my 2nd amendment right to own a gun. I think the bill of rights is enough and no other restrictions should exist. Now I am liberal when it comes to the way our political party system works. I mean a 2 party system is a joke and does not work any more. How about healthcare and immigration what we are currently doing isn’t good enough I want change. Now how can you label me either one when I clearly am a mixture of both?

I haven’t labeled you either one. If you are so against labels, then why were you telling me I was “defending liberals” when no such action had occurred?

How is that a label?

And you did defend liberals.

You said

Many of you use this term to act as if “liberalism” is evil yet where are all of these self proclaimed “liberals”?

Then I said

I never said “Liberalism” is evil…Your defending liberals pretty strongly are you perhaps one. This was exactly the response I was looking for.

You can defend “liberalism” that’s fine, but don’t act like you weren’t defending against the “angry right”

That statement is NOT defending anyone at all. It is like you only see what you want to see. Defending something would mean I am taking a stance that indicates whatever I am defending is not the way some people describe it. That is not what I did there at all so what are you talking about? I didn’t call them “innocent”. I said many conservatives act as if they are evil…which is TRUE.

Are you denying this? Conservatives even claim they are “destroying America” yet I can’t make the claim that they think they are evil without you claiming I am defending them?

Let?s see. I see what you type and what you have typed in the last few posts are what I have commented on. I didn’t make it up they are your words. I’m not sure where you got “I didn’t call them innocent” from. That was not in anything you or I typed until now. What conservatives act like they are evil…I want exact quotes…Your last statement doesn’t even make sense. I don’t know who you mean is destroying America conservative or liberals? Once again you can claim what you want, but the quote from the email I put up obviously were giving liberals and democrats a bad image and you said conservatives think Libs are evil…if that isn’t defending liberals what exactly is?

It is pretty easy to sit on that fence isn’t it? Once again you do not have to come out and say something word choice and body language(not in this instance) tell a hell of a lot. [/quote]

Are you fucking serious? You need quotes to be able to see that many conservatives are acting like “liberals” are destroying America? Go read the last 10 posts from Tiribulus in this forum and tell me you can’t see that at all.

Quotes. LOL!!!

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[quote]
Are you fucking serious? You need quotes to be able to see that many conservatives are acting like “liberals” are destroying America? Go read the last 10 posts from Tiribulus in this forum and tell me you can;t see that at all.

Quotes. LOL!!![/quote]

You know your not a very nice poster on a serious note you may want to get your blood pressure checked…I don’t care what most of the poster on this forum say or don’t say. Half of them are 15 year old girls or 18 year old college drop outs that think they know it all. Now I want exact quotes from reliavble conservative sources saying “liberals” are destroying America. I don’t think anyone is saying that further more there are only a very few number of people in this world that are truly conservative.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Are you fucking serious? You need quotes to be able to see that many conservatives are acting like “liberals” are destroying America? Go read the last 10 posts from Tiribulus in this forum and tell me you can;t see that at all.

Quotes. LOL!!!

You know your not a very nice poster on a serious note you may want to get your blood pressure checked…I don’t care what most of the poster on this forum say or don’t say. Half of them are 15 year old girls or 18 year old college drop outs that think they know it all. Now I want exact quotes from reliavble conservative sources saying “liberals” are destroying America. I don’t think anyone is saying that further more there are only a very few number of people in this world that are truly conservative. [/quote]

What even qualifies as “reliable conservative sources”? You pulled links to random crap articles, one about a gay woman who gets her own talk show, yet now you want some “conservative authority” quoted for you?

We are talking about the people on this forum. I don’t expect reliable news sources aside from FOX news to say the same crap that most are repeating here ad nauseum.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Are you fucking serious? You need quotes to be able to see that many conservatives are acting like “liberals” are destroying America? Go read the last 10 posts from Tiribulus in this forum and tell me you can;t see that at all.

Quotes. LOL!!!

You know your not a very nice poster on a serious note you may want to get your blood pressure checked…I don’t care what most of the poster on this forum say or don’t say. Half of them are 15 year old girls or 18 year old college drop outs that think they know it all. Now I want exact quotes from reliavble conservative sources saying “liberals” are destroying America. I don’t think anyone is saying that further more there are only a very few number of people in this world that are truly conservative.

What even qualifies as “reliable conservative sources”? You pulled links to random crap articles, one about a gay woman who gets her own talk show, yet now you want some “conservative authority” quoted for you?

We are talking about the people on this forum. I don’t expect reliable news sources aside from FOX news to say the same crap that most are repeating here ad nauseum.[/quote]

Well you seem to be the king of the label I assumed you knew what a reliable source is. It doesn’t suprise me you think no one other then Fox news says “crap” When you probably get your news from the Communist News Network.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Are you fucking serious? You need quotes to be able to see that many conservatives are acting like “liberals” are destroying America? Go read the last 10 posts from Tiribulus in this forum and tell me you can;t see that at all.

Quotes. LOL!!!

You know your not a very nice poster on a serious note you may want to get your blood pressure checked…I don’t care what most of the poster on this forum say or don’t say. Half of them are 15 year old girls or 18 year old college drop outs that think they know it all. Now I want exact quotes from reliavble conservative sources saying “liberals” are destroying America. I don’t think anyone is saying that further more there are only a very few number of people in this world that are truly conservative.

What even qualifies as “reliable conservative sources”? You pulled links to random crap articles, one about a gay woman who gets her own talk show, yet now you want some “conservative authority” quoted for you?

We are talking about the people on this forum. I don’t expect reliable news sources aside from FOX news to say the same crap that most are repeating here ad nauseum.

Well you seem to be the king of the label I assumed you knew what a reliable source is. It doesn’t suprise me you think no one other then Fox news says “crap” When you probably get your news from the Communist News Network. [/quote]

I consider quite a few news sources crap these days which is why I watch the news much less than I have in the past. However, FOX news takes the cake with their slanted view of all events to the point that it does make me sick to even think about. At least they don’t hide it though so I guess there is redeeming quality.

The fact still stands that while you claim to ignore all of these threads made by the dozens about Obama and how everyone who voted for him is a dumb liberal, I doubt the rest of the people viewing are so blind to it.