Lately I have been Pre Exhausting my lats before hand doing Straight arm cable pullovers…Usually 3 sets of higher reps 12-20 squeezing each rep has help me “feel” my lats more before moving on to either a lat pull down or some type of row.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[/quote]
DISAPPOINTED
Meh, who cares about his speaking.
I want to hear him sing.
Watching a 250lb+ bodybuilder sing like Maxwell would be pretty cool.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
I am using my “professional voice” here.
Pissed off voice is way deeper and louder.
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[/quote]
DISAPPOINTED[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[/quote]
DISAPPOINTED[/quote]
I am using my “professional voice” here.
Pissed off/casual voice is way deeper and louder.
[/quote]
sing to us
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[/quote]
DISAPPOINTED[/quote]
He talks like Mike Tyson, I talked to him on the phone the other day.
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For the record, we just trained back this morning and CT should have the vids up soon.
Trust me, I feel my lats after that.[/quote]
so do we get to hear you talk?
I imagine Steve Harvey + Wilford Brimley and Tpain[/quote]
My voice isn’t that deep. CT has a deeper voice than me.
[/quote]
DISAPPOINTED[/quote]
He talks like Mike Tyson, I talked to him on the phone the other day.[/quote]
damn, no autotune?
mike tyson was and is a scary dude.
The biggest issue I have with activating my left lat, is that my shoulder is much stronger and seems to be doing the pulling. Even with something as simple as band pull aparts.
[quote]howie424 wrote:
The biggest issue I have with activating my left lat, is that my shoulder is much stronger and seems to be doing the pulling. Even with something as simple as band pull aparts. [/quote]
Yeah…did you read the above?
It isn’t like we’re new at this.
[quote]howie424 wrote:
The biggest issue I have with activating my left lat, is that my shoulder is much stronger and seems to be doing the pulling. Even with something as simple as band pull aparts. [/quote]
I’m getting the impression that you starting to over think this, I say that only because I did the same thing myself for a while… (I had trouble feeling my right pec over my left one)
Read my earlier post again.
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Here is a couple of things that will work:
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Get a long painful deep tissue massage on your lats before you train them, that will definitely help you feel them.
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After you get your massage, train your lats as hard as possible, do something ridiculous like 6-10 all out sets of hard dumbbell rows (12-40 reps) and 100 reps of pull ups
When your lats are sore the next day, train them again, not hard, but just practice some lat movements. You will feel a good connection with them because you have DOMS in them - keep doing this every day until the DOMS goes.
Technique tips:
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When performing any form of pulldown, arch your back as hard as possible
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When doing a lat pulldown, look up toward the bar, arch your back (as above) and pull the bar to your mouth.
You should be able to feel your lats after you do all that[1]
Goodfellow -
I am going to try and train lats tonight. Can I foam roll the shit out of them in place of the massage? (for this session anyways)
For DB rows you say high reps. Should I be performing them like Kroc Rows, or like the DB rows in the IBB program.
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[quote]howie424 wrote:
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
Here is a couple of things that will work:
-
Get a long painful deep tissue massage on your lats before you train them, that will definitely help you feel them.
-
After you get your massage, train your lats as hard as possible, do something ridiculous like 6-10 all out sets of hard dumbbell rows (12-40 reps) and 100 reps of pull ups
When your lats are sore the next day, train them again, not hard, but just practice some lat movements. You will feel a good connection with them because you have DOMS in them - keep doing this every day until the DOMS goes.
Technique tips:
-
When performing any form of pulldown, arch your back as hard as possible
-
When doing a lat pulldown, look up toward the bar, arch your back (as above) and pull the bar to your mouth.
You should be able to feel your lats after you do all that[1]
Goodfellow -
I am going to try and train lats tonight. Can I foam roll the shit out of them in place of the massage? (for this session anyways)
For DB rows you say high reps. Should I be performing them like Kroc Rows, or like the DB rows in the IBB program.
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Yeah I guess you could use a foam roll, tennis ball, baseball, just beat them up and make them sore.
I’d do kroc rows, 12+ reps. Make sure you do a max set without straps and a max set with straps, do lots and lots of volume.
This will be hard to recover from by the way, but the main goal is DOMS in your lats so you can develop a good connection with them over the next few days.
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quick DB row tip:
When the DB is on the ground, have it under your chin/face. Then with your arm straight, contract your lat to pull it (along the ground) into the correct position, then begin your set.
Make sure you get a deep stretch on each rep and perform the concentric by trying to touch your spine with your elbow.
Okay, I will take my foam roller to the gym with me, so I can grab a DB just as I finish up. Also, I may TRY and do chin-ups instead of pull-ups. Last time I did chin-ups for a certain number of total reps (as opposed to setsXreps) I was crazy sore. I’m not sure if that means anything, but it at least will help my mindset when performing the reps.
If it’s hard to recovery from, then so be it. I have Indigo-3G/Surge Workout Fuel and a few scoops of Power Drive left for tomorrow morning. I will probably come home and take either an ice bath or an epsom salt bath.
And now I’m glad I didn’t cook up them two rib steaks last night.
Anyways, thanks for the help Goodfellow - and everybody else who pitched in. I will make sure to do plenty of shoulder mobility stuff before I start to make sure my scapula can get a good range of motion.
[quote]howie424 wrote:
Also, I may TRY and do chin-ups instead of pull-ups. Last time I did chin-ups for a certain number of total reps (as opposed to setsXreps) I was crazy sore. I’m not sure if that means anything, but it at least will help my mindset when performing the reps.
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I almost always do chin ups instead of pull ups actually, I use a shoulder-width grip and pretend im on a pullover machine.
Good luck!
Thanks very much! I appreciate your help. Time to go punish these lats for being lazy.
wtf??
because chin-ups use the lats better than pull-ups??
[quote]alexus wrote:
wtf??
because chin-ups use the lats better than pull-ups??[/quote]
Nope…so let’s ask for pics of back development.