Well let’s let bygones be bygones then and not hijack this thread.
EDIT:
For the sake of posterity, the original comment.
I do notice you have since deleted your comment, rather than posting a follow up retraction / correction, leaving my response completely out of context but for my quote.
In response:
A) Doesn’t look like he’s a ‘beginner’ to me. 445 is a respectable dead.
B) I didn’t advise him to use it, I said upperback rounding isn’t something I would suggest he worry about, having watched his deadlift. My reasoning being that it isn’t dangerous, and it doesn’t look like he is appreciably rounding his upper back anyway.
Is there something you saw watching his deadlift that has you worried about his upper back, resulting in a justified concern over my comment? Or are you just picking a fight for the sake of it?
My understanding was the aim of this thread was to contribute to helping him improve his deadlift? Something I am trying to do, while being very clear that I am just giving him ideas and am, as explicitly stated, neither an expert nor a coach?
The question is who is really picking a fight here. I saw your comment and missed the “upper” part and just registered “back rounding is OK”, that’s why I made the comment that I did. There are plenty of people who pull with a rounded lower back too, it’s just extremely high risk. I have also seen many comments in the past saying that rounding your back is nothing to be concerned about, so I foolishly jumped to the conclusion that this was another case of the same.
For a girl, or someone who hasn’t been training for long. My deadlift sucks, and I pull 100lbs. more than that.
You changed your tune pretty fast there, what happened?
Also, the fact that he is pulling in heeled shoes shows that he doesn’t really know what he’s doing. I’m not here trying to be an asshole and belittle people, and if someone doesn’t know what they are doing they are welcome to ask for advice. I’m just stating the obvious.
Perhaps you didn’t notice, the title of the thread is “Help Fix My Poverty Deadlift”. Poverty=poor. He’s not here looking for a pat on the back, he’s looking for advice.
Seeing as I have been cluttering up your thread with some mindless arguing I figured I could give some actual advice.
-You appear to shift the weight forward on many reps, push through your heels and not your toes. Heeled shoes will only make this worse because the shift the weight to your toes/balls of your feet
-Your arm looks slightly bent at times, don’t do that unless you want a torn bicep. Flex your triceps if you have a tendency to bend your arms, and never do any sort of bicep curls before deadlifts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxvaToLhlfc
-As far as glutes involvement, you need to actively push your hips forward for them to effectively contribute to the lift. You could try doing glute bridges/hip thrusts as part of your warmup, not necessarily with weight either, just to warm up your glutes and make you think about using them when you pull.
-The back rounding issue (you do have some thoracic rounding, possibly lumbar as well) might have to do with your head position. Nobody hurts their neck deadlifting, don’t listen to Rippetoe, you can look straight forward (neck slightly extended) and hopefully it will improve your back position. Make sure you brace hard too.
No bull shit, since I posted in the powerlifting section, as soon as I got on and saw “10 new replies” to my thread I immediately thought “well, looks like chris ottowa got in an argument with somebody” lmao. You guys fighting over me makes me feel pretty
Update:
Here’s 455. I switched back to flats, started a little higher, flexed my tris to keep my arms straighter, and wore my belt a little higher and looser so I wasn’t struggling get down into position. Felt a lot better all around. Still didn’t get my glutes firing like I wanted, but making progress.
Looks pretty decent to me for a max pull or near max pull (good that you posted a heavy pull, some here seek feedback on their warmups).
Seems like you had a bit of helicoptering with the bar twisting away from your right side. Common with a mixed grip; not sure on the fix other than moving to a hook grip. From time to time this happens to me but I’ve found as I’ve focused on getting my back tight and retracting the shoulders, bar twist is minimized (I’ve not moved to hook grip).
Still a bit too much hyperextension in the back at lockout. Focus on driving the hips forward and let them dictate the finish of the lift rather than excessively leaning back.
You might want to do some banded glute activation exercises. I use monster walks and side shuffles for both my squat and deadlift days, and have found side shuffles to be critical for optimal squat performance to keep my knees from caving.
Looks alright. I’m not going to go back and read the whole thread, but do plenty of posterior chain work if you aren’t already like SLDL, RLDL, GM, back extensions, etc. You could do RDLs with a band around your waist anchored behind you, kind of like a standing hip thrust. I got that from Chris Duffin, the video isn’t public though.
Yeah definitely. This was just due to me losing focus after lock out and not keeping it tight. Will definitely not let that shot happen again lol.
Yeah I definitely do need to add in more glute work. The only real training they get now a days is from deadlifts, high pulls, and the very rare occasional RDLs. Will definitely start working them in more. I might have to give the activation exercises a try too before I hit squats and DL (which is like, every time I train lol)
Will definitely start adding in more RDLs and GHRs into my pulling sessions. Haven’t made training glutes a priority even after I identified them as a weak link like a month ago. Derp.
