WTF?! Are you joking with the 600 calories thing? That is less than a pre-teen female should eat…holy shit man. You need to eat WAY WAY more than you currently are!
[quote]CompleteNewb wrote:
Well some questions are:
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Which will i do cut down to low bf or just add muscle ?
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Will i start on 6 meals straight away or work up from 2-3-5-7 etc etc
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Whats peoples take on carbs ?? Good/bad so many articles say many different things !
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Whats the deal with post gym/pre gym drinks ?? I dont own any protein or stuff… do i buy it here … which ones etc etc !
Those would by my top 4 at the moment, if you could answer i would me much obliged :)[/quote]
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What is your goal? We can’t decide that for you but if you have visible abs I suggest you add muscle.
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You’re better off eating smaller, more frequent meals always.
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Depends on your metabolism and goals. It sounds like you can handle them but you should still stick to oatmeal, whole grains, etc. rather than soda.
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Probably the one most important thing you can do to ensure your success is a good workout shake. It should consist of fast acting carbs and quick digesting protein. Adding creatine is also a good idea.
The store here sells a product called Surge which is a great choice. If money is a factor get a tub of whey protein (like Grow!) and mix in gatorade or even sugar. Sip half before and during your training session and then finish it off right afterward.
ok let me try again…
Ok so
Bulking = Eating more than you need
Cutting = Less than you need
Homeostatis = All ok and same weight.
Well if i can stay at 180-185 by eating hardly nothing… then whats the deal with 6-7 meals.
Im getting confused !
Like today all i had was
roll with ham/cheese/coleslaw
small tub of pringles
1 bar of chocolate
and thats it
yesterday wasnt much different.
I dont have the desire to eat alot or alot of times… thats why this 6-7 meal thing is weird for me… how am i going to eat 6-7 meals when i can survive on what i wrote above ???
sorry if this seems rediculas, as i said im a COMPLETE beginner so try not freak to much im all for learning and learn pretty fast, so bear with me 
Ok i will buy the Surge stuff… money is not much of an issue i work pretty hard for it
IS that all i need, i looked through the store and saw Flameout is that good/bad for athletes only ?
And what is creatine and what does it do ?
my morning protein shake has more than 600 calories… then i eat breakfast. If your bulking then eat everything in sight. If nutrition is confusing then dont count cals and just eat when ever you are not full.
if you want to keep your bf low then just make sure the foods you eat are clean. and hit those weights hard! I kinda skipped some of the posts I hope you planning on bulking
In regards you said to adding muscle… i read that its expensive calorie wise to keep muscle… so if i put it on does my food needs go up ??
And if i add muscle, does that burn fat ??
Which is heavier fat or muscle ??
Again, im sorry for so many questions… and i do appreciate the time you take for answering what must seem silly questions when your so advanced !
If you have a lot of money go ahead and add creatine, its cheap. Just make sure you are getting atleast 1g protein for every lb you weigh. The most important thing is food. supplements do just that. supplement a good diet. if you dont eat right or dont lift hard you will not see progress. good luck man
[quote]Kruiser wrote:
Zagman wrote:
Kruiser wrote:
bugeishaAD wrote:
I would split up your milk consumption for the day unless you enjoy annoying farts and pissing out your asshole…
A VERY good point that I forgot to mention.
I, uhhh… Couldn’t have said it better myself?
Actually the whole “drink gallons of milk” thing is generally a bad idea. You’re just asking to develop an allery or become lactose intolerant. Milk is fine and all, especially when you’re young but a good protein powder has a superior protein profile and less lactose and saturated fat.
You won’t develop and allergy, or become lactose intolerant. You have lactase in your small intestine, it is the enzyme for digesting the milk protein lactose, which is made of glucose and galactose. The worst thing that will happen is you will use up your temporary supply of lactase and then get the shits.
Not true. It happens all the time. Overconsumption of almost any food can trigger an allergy to it.
Just one reference (HealingDaily):
Heredity is often cited as a cause of food allergies, and it certainly plays a role since a recessive gene has been identified as being linked to IgE-mediated food allergies.(2) Repeated exposure to the same foods, especially in large quantities is also a factor. (I added the bold).
In any case, better safe than sorry. And why would you not want variety?
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Ummm, true. Check your facts, and please don’t try and cite HealingDaily as a credible source, come on that had to be a joke.
I’m not an expert on the subject but I believe muscle weighs more than fat. The more muscle you have the easier it is to burn fat. And if you have a lot more muscle than your maintance calories go up. I’m sure some one else can give you a better explanation
[quote]CompleteNewb wrote:
ok so if i start on 6 meals just not HUGE ones, and gradually add calories … thats ok yes ?
another thing… if i get this bulking thing its the over consumption of calories than i need to stay at my weight… but i stay at this weight regardless of what i eat so how does my above daily calorie manage to fit into 6 meals ??
I maybe ate 600 calories yesterday and same today ???
6 meals is 100 cals a meal ??
Ugh nutrition is confusing [/quote]
LOL? more like 600 calories per meal my man lol, not very hard to accomplish thats pretty much 6 eggs and a bagel. i eat 690 calories in my first meal every morning lol.
[quote]CompleteNewb wrote:
Ok i will buy the Surge stuff… money is not much of an issue i work pretty hard for it
IS that all i need, i looked through the store and saw Flameout is that good/bad for athletes only ?
And what is creatine and what does it do ?
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Fishoil is a very pure fish oil supplement which contains CLA which is a very beneficial fatty acid and can and probably should be used by everyone.
Creatine is stored as creatine phosphate in your muscles and helps “recharge” one of your body’s energy systems(simple terms). Don’t worry about it now, maybe in six months.
As for your diet, you may be able to survive on one moderate sized meal a day, but that is what you are doing, surviving. You NEED to eat more, especially if you want to develop any appreciable amount of muscle mass. I would start trying to add meals, start slow if you have to. Try to choose minimally process food sources and work your way towards 3000kcals a day.
You can train hard, but if you don’t supply the energy your body needs to build muscle, it simply won’t.
[quote]ChicagoCub wrote:
I’m not an expert on the subject but I believe muscle weighs more than fat. The more muscle you have the easier it is to burn fat. And if you have a lot more muscle than your maintance calories go up. I’m sure some one else can give you a better explanation [/quote]
Lb for Lb yes muscle weighs more but 5lbs of muscle and 5 lbs of fat weigh the same ;].
But yes that is definitely true the more muscle you have the more calories you burn!
Please tell me how your calorie intake for yesterday was only 600 but you ate 3 chocolate bars? I’m dying to know.
The average plain chocolate bar has 230 calories in it. Also, I can just about guarantee you that 6 biscuits is at least 500 calories minimum.
Maybe instead of pulling numbers out of your asshole you should actually READ some of the information on here and educate yourself. It’s kind of pathetic that you expect others to take the time to help you when you can’t even be bothered to figure out what a calorie is.
Well i didnt have time to go check out the nutritional profile of the chocolate bars i ate
Apologies… are you usually this gruff or is your weekend off to a bad start ?
I am reading all i can at this moment and 4 hours previous… i cannot work miracles.
I do know that a calorie is a unit of energy-producing potential equal to an amount of heat that is contained in food and released upon oxidation by the body.
Will this make you less hostile now ?
Also this is fairly good, someone reccomended it.
Thank you.
http://www.4estgimp.com/HL2/otherjunk/BB/Tim.txt
WOW
Just wow
and wow again
Fucking hell, whoever the 4-est guy is has his place in heaven sealed.
Ok so from further reading, the big huge article write guy thinks this is the best breakfast:
150-200g of ‘‘animal flesh’’ (red meat, chicken, turkey, fish, etc.)
1 scoop whey protein
25g of nuts (preferably almonds)
I dont have “whey protein” anything i can do to exchange anyone know ?
That meal would do me for the DAY… more i read more i think i have screwed up my stomach.
IF 1 roll fills me and normal guy needs like ALOT more food… then why am i not hungry ???
sigh back to reading i go
replace the whey protein with more animal flesh or some milk. You aren’t hungry because you’re not used to eating, you need to just man up and force yourself to eat more.
So instead of 1 scoop of whey protein i have a portion of the litre of milk i drink a day ?
Can you answer me… if i force myself to eat… what happens all the food that i add on ???
Is the difference between where i was and where i want to be training ??
OR am i already short changing my body to a large degree calorie wise ??
Thanks for your help, one and all.
[quote]CompleteNewb wrote:
So instead of 1 scoop of whey protein i have a portion of the litre of milk i drink a day ?
Can you answer me… if i force myself to eat… what happens all the food that i add on ???
Is the difference between where i was and where i want to be training ??
OR am i already short changing my body to a large degree calorie wise ??
Thanks for your help, one and all.[/quote]
CompleteNewb, listen to me closely.
in order for someone to put on weight, one needs to eat enough food (calories) to build the new tissue (muscle). if you do not eat enough to support the muscle growth process, you will not add muscle. muscle is not synthesized out of thin air. you need to eat more calories to grow. typically, this will be in the range of 18x bodyweight (in pounds).
however, this is only a starting point. if you track your calories and are eating 18x bodyweight but not putting on weight, you might have to bump it up to 20x bodyweight and so on.
additionally, dont get caught up in buying supplements unless you are (1) already eating a sound diet and (2) weight training at least 3 days per week.
finally, there is no need to eat 6-8 times per day. however, in order to eat enough, you may find it easier to consume food more often (unless you like shoveling down 1,500 calories per meal) Also, you may have to eat even if you arent hungry. believe me, there are harder things in life than eating when you arent hungry. unless you want to waste your time in the gym, you need to be shoveling down the food, or else you will not grow, period.
Edit: i’m beginning to suspect you are a troll, as i find it hard to believe anyone could be so naive about nutrition (e.g. thinking that eating 600 calories a day is enough)