[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I walked out of the movie…not so much because it was really bad, but because I just couldn’t get into that much “fantasy” going on randomly.
This is by far the weirdest movie I have seen since Pan’s Labyrinth…and they went way further.
There were some really good scenes, but…
Spoiler Alert:
Abe Sapien’s love affair should have been a quick idea pitch in the very first meeting before they produced the movie and then balled up and tossed in the trash can before “day 2” of the screen writing process. All it did was slow down the pace of the movie.
You just walked out. 9 bucks gone. Doing it big Willie Style huh, Prof. X?
At least whenI walked out of “Roll Bounce”, I hated everyone in the film and I only wasted 2 dollars. Wait, it wasn’t Roll Bounce. It had T.I. in it. Either way, I walked out with only 2 dollars gone.
Well I DID wait until the army was resurrected (which is about 2 hours in). I just didn’t see (or really care about) the ending.
You would have loved the ending lol.
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There is the possibility that I just wasn’t in the right frame of mind…but you haven’t explained why you liked the movie more than me.
My thoughts are similar to others’. It was fun, pretty, and didn’t make a whole lot o’ sense. Suddenly I was confronted with elves, trolls, a few Pan’s Labyrinth rejects that all danced about and talked in very serious voices.
The ending was completely fucked. By this time, however, I had forgotten the weak plot altogether, and was simply enjoying gazing upon Selma Blair and the visual effects.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I walked out of the movie…not so much because it was really bad, but because I just couldn’t get into that much “fantasy” going on randomly.
This is by far the weirdest movie I have seen since Pan’s Labyrinth…and they went way further.
There were some really good scenes, but…
Spoiler Alert:
Abe Sapien’s love affair should have been a quick idea pitch in the very first meeting before they produced the movie and then balled up and tossed in the trash can before “day 2” of the screen writing process. All it did was slow down the pace of the movie.
You just walked out. 9 bucks gone. Doing it big Willie Style huh, Prof. X?
At least whenI walked out of “Roll Bounce”, I hated everyone in the film and I only wasted 2 dollars. Wait, it wasn’t Roll Bounce. It had T.I. in it. Either way, I walked out with only 2 dollars gone.
Well I DID wait until the army was resurrected (which is about 2 hours in). I just didn’t see (or really care about) the ending.
You would have loved the ending lol.
There is the possibility that I just wasn’t in the right frame of mind…but you haven’t explained why you liked the movie more than me.[/quote]
I liked the movie because:
*Hellboy is a character after my own heart
*Different. Its original to me and I usually hate originality
*I liked the story. It wasn’t too fruity or smug (LOTR)
*It killed 2 hours for me
*And it isn’t Sex and the City
That’s why I liked it.
Prof.X, just look at it as an appetizer and consider the Dark Knight as the main course. X-Files or Mummy 3 could be your dessert if you like those movies.
OK kind of embarrassing story. I went to see Hellboy 2 last night, and I fell asleep about 5 minuntes in. Woke up 45 minutes later and wanted to go to bed so bad that I just walked out. I ended up playing Metal Gear Solid 4 when I got home haha. Maybe MGS is a fair bit more entertaining than Hellboy?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SSC wrote:
I thought it was a pretty interesting movie. Granted, I was blown back and don’t remember a thing from the first one, but the art direction by Del Toro was mesmerizing.
Artistic, YES. That is the reason I wrote that it didn’t necessarily suck…but they went WAY over the top as far as the concepts. There was just too much going on.
Spoiler:
One, “Tooth Fairies” were a good concept. "Tooth Fairies, trolls, wood nymphs, and any other creature he could think of turn “artistic” into “Dude, what the fuck is going on?”.
I actually think kids might be able to get into it more.
I thought Pan’s Labyrinth was a good movie, but there was much more balance there as far as the fantasy world and the real world. That made it work.
Here, they just went full frontal on the fantasy concept and, honestly, if you are going to do something like that, pass out LSD to the WHOLE audience so we can all ‘get it’ too.
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You bring up a good point. Pan’s Labyrinth was such an amazing movie because it assimiliated two radically different ways of presenting a movie, but it’s hard to recreate that in the same fashion. Because it was a comic movie, I think they just said “To Hell with reality” and just went all out on its characters. That being said, it certainly doesn’t hurt that I was in a warped mindset.
Visually, I think the film was very good, and I did enjoy it, but I certainly don’t feel it was better than the first film, and I know for a fact that I’m a little biased for being a fan of the comic books (which were sometimes a little weird).
Perlman was just born to play this role though. So many great tongue in cheek moments, and one liners… I got a kick just seeing big Red in the flesh, but also understand the criticisms that seem to be popping up.
Apparently, these guys disagree with Prof.X completely.[/quote]
Ugh, that girl’s voice was so irritating that I couldn’t even watch the whole clip.
I saw it last night with some friends. It wasn’t anything special. I thought visually the movie was good, but I just didn’t care for the story all that much. I enjoyed the first one much more.
See, I’m not a fan of one-liners unless they are part of an overall direction in witty dialogue. This film felt like a hodge podge of so much shit: love stories, fantasy, comic book stuff, action, philosophical discussions…I mean, come on.
I feel like renting Judge Dredd and drooling over the awesomeness of the ABC robots. Man, that was a good film.
Iron Man was the best comic book film so far, on par with X-Men 2 and Batman Begins. So far, everything else has been crap. Oh, and I would put MONEY that Heath Ledger wins a post-humous academy award for his role as Joker.
Rarely can you tell how cool a film will be based on the trailer. Usually, you can tell how much it’ll suck, but not with Dark Knight. I have faith…
The problem with the average comic book film is the writers get stuck trying to bring the general populace up to speed and still have enough time to show off the cool shit that die hard fans came to see; it’s a no-win if you go at it like that.
This movie was like some goofy combination of Men In Black (especially the beginning), Pan’s Labrynth, and X3. Fortunately for me that’s about what I expected so I found it entertaining. I think this movie was really Del Torro’s warmup for “The Hobbit”, which I have a feeling will be good.
This movie was further proof that a good director will not necessarily guarantee a good movie in every genre. If comic book films wasn’t Del Torro’s thing, I wouldn’t expect him to make a good one (Hellboy 2) based on his success with Pan’s Labrynth.
And I did like Pan’s but felt it was abbreviated for some reason; just way too short.
There were a few glaringly obvious and somewhat insulting plot holes. A few moments of broken logic. Moments of overwhelming animation and imagery(erring on chaotic and nonsensical), and some forced attempts at humor.
The love stories were pretty rough too, but I can give those a pass, since I generally think all love stories in cinema are rough.
But, despite all of these grievances I had. The movie still appealed to me in a number of ways. It had moments of brilliance and direction that really painted the picture of an awesome fantasy/sci-fi universe, and all of the action scenes were great fun to watch. I even laughed out loud during a couple of scenes.
Perhaps my biggest gripe with the movie, is that the humans in the BPRD were so utterly useless and expendable. In the first movie, at least they had a chemistry with hellboy and even contributed a well placed bullet or two. But in this movie, the non-supernatural agents were pretty pathetic.
They made the monsters too powerful and the humans too weak, a common theme in fantasy movies, that fell short given the history the movie depicted of humanity dominating the supernatural world(until the golden army that is).
I mean, it would hardly be a crisis if humans could easily dispatch of any and all supernatural occurrences, but to be completely futile without the help of their own supernatural agents? that’s a bit much.
I liked it, give it a 7 out of 10. Like somebody said, they did over-do it with the supernatural elements, and it was kind of annoying how worthless the regular humans were. But I had a good time overall, thought it was well made.
The stop motion animation at the beggining with the wooden puppets was awesome.
