:)HELL YEAH WAR!!!!!!:)

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Doritos or whatever your name is, Of course i didnt post her pics. Even though its not a crime. At least learn the spirit if not the letter of the law. I am in fact a cop, in fact i’ve been interviewed by t-mag. Nobody ask for you to come on here spurting your nazi propaganda.

I’n known as somewhat of a nut on here so yeah, i likes to fuck with people. Im following cupcakes advice and saying my fond farewells.

Your last post really rubbed me the wrong way. Im done with you now.

As far as BD went i thought she was kinda witty and was just tossin fuel on the fire. ARRRGGH im too mad for this shit right now i gotta go eat.

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Am I the only one who suspects the possibility that Babydoll and Doranos are the same person?

To gt1370a:

It is evident by your post that you aren’t informed on the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Can’t expect everyone to be an expert on everything, so no worries.

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I have one comment.

If I could get ahold of this fella, I would tie a rope to his testicles. I would then swing him around till they fell off.

I believe I am done here.

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BFA, DavidH and Tiree, tune out any obvious attempts to push your buttons and give me some feedback based on what you think I was trying to say in my posts. I am seriously interested in your ideas… not insults, but your theories. I don’t mind if you disagree with me in the slightest. I just enjoy dialogue.

Do you simply not believe that we did what we did to Iran, Iraq, Afkanistan, Panama, etc.? Do you think that this is all made up? Do you think that our government is corruption free?

I’ll hand you that our government is fraught with corruption, but based on what I have seen of the world, we have the LEAST amount of corruption of any country in the world. We are still the country that everyone else wants to live in. But it does exist. It is a large, festering pimple right now.

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I would add the complete failure of the Reagan administration to understand the Iranian response to our actions in Lebanon and Palestine during the 80s. The consequences were a tragic misunderstanding that led to the Iranian decision that the US was indulging in military adventurism and essentially challenging the fundamentalist revolution. The consequence was the creation of Hezbollah and Hamas, the major terrorist organizations in the Levant.

The mistake made by the US is the continuation of the Machiavellian policies that arose in the horrors of WWII. Our bombings of the Japanese and Germans justified by the state of total war initiated by the aggressors was carried over to the post war response to the Soviets. Our chauvinistic blindness to European imperialism led to the US taking on the mantle of their brutal subjection of the third world. The communist movement in the third was, at the core, an anti-imperialist cause. The millions of Asians that we killed were sacrificed in the cause of containing the Red Chinese and the Russians. Our support of the French in their return to Indochina, the British in their control of the Mideast and India, all in the name of preserving our system became as brutal as European colonialism had ever been. Just war theory did not emerge until after our ruthlessness in Viet Na, and the standards applied retrospectively placed the US in the role of continuing the racism of the Europeans.

The argument against the CIA intervention in democratic Iran is entirely correct. It established Islamic fundamentalism as rising to a higher-level ideological confrontation than ever existed during the cold war. Our support of the Saddam’s invasion of Iran was an unspeakable violation of any principled stand that we could ever take in the long-term future. The fear of the fundamentalists led the US to the immoral position of supporting the aggressor when, despite the threat the Iranians appeared to be. That circumstance opened the door to the gates of hell. It is a direct link in the militarization of the Jihad.

Additionally, the Soviet challenge was serious in their support of anti-imperialism, but the ironic aspect of the cold war was a highly stable international order. The prospect of mutual destruction of both civilizations and nuclear winter made the use of nuclear weapons unthinkable. The result was proxy wars and the continual economic confrontation of the Soviet empire established by the Kennon doctrine in the aftermath of WWII. Nevertheless, the collapse of the Communist system was a relief for the human race. The estimate of 80 to 100 million deaths created by international communism was a scourge of monstrous proportion. It is small wonder that Saddam has model his dictatorship on Stalin.

Yet there is no doubt that the emergence of extra-nationalist terror movements has created a situation that is unparalled in human history. We have arrived at a point where fanatics truly can acquire and use these weapons. The seriousness of this issue is real, but the response of the Bush fundamentalists is so self-absorbed that they are blind to the fact that they are creating exactly the situation they are resisting. What they fail to address are the consequences of the alienation of undeveloped nations and those advanced nations that see the undermining of the international order that was sustained by the heretofore restraint and ostensible commitment to non-agression espoused by the US (not taking into account the lies of the CIA and military that led the US into the Viet Nam’s tragedy). US foreign policy has succumbed to the same hubris and arrogance that led to the destruction of the Athenians.

So we regret the failures of American foreign policy and resent being placed in the position that we must hope, even pray for the expeditious elimination of the Bathists and the destruction of Saddam’s apparatus. Regardless of the outcome of the war, the most cogent analysts (particularly Joseph Wilson, the last ambassador to communicate with Saddam – and a Republican appointee) are suppressed by the Christian fundamentalist control of the US government. A cold and sober review of the possibilities leave little room for hope. The irony is that the hatred and resentment of the Islamic world is not against Americans. We are still the hope of the world. It is against the religious intolerance of the intolerant and provincialist fascism of the Bush administration.

Think about it. The British parliament can speak against the fundamentalist right wing in the US, but criticism from within is completely suppressed by the self-righteous, right wing attacks against any that oppose them. What we need is perestroika, an open discourse that unveils the right wing fundamentalists for what they are. Purely and simply they are fascists of the same degree as the Taliban, and Americans have become so disempowered that they are nearing a time when the domination of right wing control of invasive technologies and propaganda will be impossible to displace. It is a time for great despair. The times are fertile for the rebirth of the Mussolinis and Lenins that plunged the world into a holocaust.

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Roy Batty
04/07/03
11:36 PM

I would add the complete failure of the Reagan administration to understand the Iranian response to our actions in Lebanon and Palestine during the 80s. The consequences were a tragic misunderstanding that led to the Iranian decision that the US was indulging in military adventurism and essentially challenging the fundamentalist revolution. The consequence was the creation of Hezbollah and Hamas, the major terrorist organizations in the Levant.

The mistake made by the US is the continuation of the Machiavellian policies that arose in the horrors of WWII. Our bombings of the Japanese and Germans justified by the state of total war initiated by the aggressors was carried over to the post war response to the Soviets. Our chauvinistic blindness to European imperialism led to the US taking on the mantle of their brutal subjection of the third world. The communist movement in the third was, at the core, an anti-imperialist cause. The millions of Asians that we killed were sacrificed in the cause of containing the Red Chinese and the Russians. Our support of the French in their return to Indochina, the British in their control of the Mideast and India, all in the name of preserving our system became as brutal as European colonialism had ever been. Just war theory did not emerge until after our ruthlessness in Viet Na, and the standards applied retrospectively placed the US in the role of continuing the racism of the Europeans.

The argument against the CIA intervention in democratic Iran is entirely correct. It established Islamic fundamentalism as rising to a higher-level ideological confrontation than ever existed during the cold war. Our support of the Saddam’s invasion of Iran was an unspeakable violation of any principled stand that we could ever take in the long-term future. The fear of the fundamentalists led the US to the immoral position of supporting the aggressor when, despite the threat the Iranians appeared to be. That circumstance opened the door to the gates of hell. It is a direct link in the militarization of the Jihad.

Additionally, the Soviet challenge was serious in their support of anti-imperialism, but the ironic aspect of the cold war was a highly stable international order. The prospect of mutual destruction of both civilizations and nuclear winter made the use of nuclear weapons unthinkable. The result was proxy wars and the continual economic confrontation of the Soviet empire established by the Kennon doctrine in the aftermath of WWII. Nevertheless, the collapse of the Communist system was a relief for the human race. The estimate of 80 to 100 million deaths created by international communism was a scourge of monstrous proportion. It is small wonder that Saddam has model his dictatorship on Stalin.

Yet there is no doubt that the emergence of extra-nationalist terror movements has created a situation that is unparalled in human history. We have arrived at a point where fanatics truly can acquire and use these weapons. The seriousness of this issue is real, but the response of the Bush fundamentalists is so self-absorbed that they are blind to the fact that they are creating exactly the situation they are resisting. What they fail to address are the consequences of the alienation of undeveloped nations and those advanced nations that see the undermining of the international order that was sustained by the heretofore restraint and ostensible commitment to non-agression espoused by the US (not taking into account the lies of the CIA and military that led the US into the Viet Nam’s tragedy). US foreign policy has succumbed to the same hubris and arrogance that led to the destruction of the Athenians.

So we regret the failures of American foreign policy and resent being placed in the position that we must hope, even pray for the expeditious elimination of the Bathists and the destruction of Saddam’s apparatus. Regardless of the outcome of the war, the most cogent analysts (particularly Joseph Wilson, the last ambassador to communicate with Saddam – and a Republican appointee) are suppressed by the Christian fundamentalist control of the US government. A cold and sober review of the possibilities leave little room for hope. The irony is that the hatred and resentment of the Islamic world is not against Americans. We are still the hope of the world. It is against the religious intolerance of the intolerant and provincialist fascism of the Bush administration.

Think about it. The British parliament can speak against the fundamentalist right wing in the US, but criticism from within is completely suppressed by the self-righteous, right wing attacks against any that oppose them. What we need is perestroika, an open discourse that unveils the right wing fundamentalists for what they are. Purely and simply they are fascists of the same degree as the Taliban, and Americans have become so disempowered that they are nearing a time when the domination of right wing control of invasive technologies and propaganda will be impossible to displace. It is a time for great despair. The times are fertile for the rebirth of the Mussolinis and Lenins that plunged the world into a holocaust.

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I’m a wee bit drunk (how sad, so early in the week, too) and prone to making an ass out of myself…so only quick replies to all and then I’m gon go sleep it off.

Goodness…all my lil playmates are leaving me all awone.

Daranos~~about damn time you showed up!! I left you a voice msg on your cell, dont know if you got it b/c the signal faded or somethin.

Roy~~I know I said I’d stop coming here plastered, but i couldn’t help myself. =(

Cupcake~~it appears this is the thread that just will not die!! gosh dernit! I wish I could insert that theme song from Lambchop’s play along in here…it would be so fitting. (“this is the thread that never endssssss” and so on) btw…the bitch is back. =)

Avoids~~my mistake. sorry bout the lil horsey. that was sad.

David H~~Maybe you should’ve waited for the anaesthesia to wear off before you ran off from your lobotomy. I dont see your contributions anywhere in this forum…all of a sudden you show up and make some stupid comment that has nothing to do with shit. I’m not Daranos. I’m your IRS agent, pimp momma, and drill sergeant all rolled into 1. So show some respect, cork your cry-hole, and drop and give me twenty, maggot! hehehe. sorry. I doubt u deserved that…i’m such a meanie tonight. =(

K how do I prove I’m not him? If we were the same person we couldn’t be on and msg-ing at the same time under two names right? Well maybe when that asshole finishes his school crap we can have us a lil demo!! whoo-ah!

BFA~~Yowza! Somebody’s maaaad!! You never found me witty you lil punk that’s the funniest thing i read so far! Actually I likes to fuck with pple too. To demonstrate, I’ll ask you to stop messaging me looking for cyber-sex…yes i’ve seen your nekked pics…We could have been in busines had you not had dinner-plate sized nipples, shag-carpetting covering your backside, raisinlike testicles, and a microscopic, miniscule, wart-covered weiner…hehehehehe. Zing!! Ok this is all uncalled for, I know. Sowwy :frowning: Wish I could find the backspace button on this dern keyboard…oh well…

Angel Eyes~~~You popped out of nowhere, too. I wont yell but wont you share your feelings about the war with us? I like Muslims. My best friend is muslim and she’s the sweetest thing I know. Her family treats me like i’m one of their own. I was trying to get her to post on here but she read what all these war-mongering flea-bitten apes said and decided it was no use. I, myself, I like going on and on even when there seems to be no resolution in sight. What was my point? No, I dont hate muslims.

Jinx Remover~~Great post, buddy!! People keep saying how it’s the soldier that wins us our freedoms, but you made such a good point…it’s often the protestor that does the same.

Alright I’ve been a mega-bitch tonight. My appologies. I was mostly writing to entertain myself…and hoping you guys could get some fun out of seeing me act like an idiot. Having said that, if anyone bitches to me about this tommorrow morning i will personally ensure the delivery of a truckload of silverfish, fire ants, and brazilian tarantulas to their house, apartment, or (in Cupcake’s case) cave.

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menacing grin i haven’t yet achieved my mischief quota for the day so here’s something just for laughs…

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Sup playboys. How you people doing. I finally took my chem test today. Shit was damn hard. Hopefully I did good. BabyFace ASSasin, the name is Daranos. Get it straight before i kick your skinny ass all the to Iraq you ignorant child-fucker.

David just because me and babydoll are anti-war PRO soldiers, yes PRO-SOLDIERS, doesnt mean we are the same people. She apparently is quite witty in her approach and I just feed it straight up…

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“Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning” -George W. Bush

hahaha…and in case you’re wondering, yes, he’s holding the book upside down.

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Curious George Bush.

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“So we regret the failures of American foreign policy and resent being placed in the position that we must hope, even pray for the expeditious elimination of the Bathists and the destruction of Saddam’s apparatus.”

What's this we stuff? I was going to stay out of this thread but you went a tad too far. He will be eliminated, and everything that our government said in regards to Saddam's regime will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt (possession of WMD, crimes against humanity, etc).

"Regardless of the outcome of the war, the most cogent analysts (particularly Joseph Wilson, the last ambassador to communicate with Saddam -- and a Republican appointee) are suppressed by the Christian fundamentalist control of the US government."

I love this shit! What leftist conspiracy web site do you read.

"A cold and sober review of the possibilities leave little room for hope. The irony is that the hatred and resentment of the Islamic world is not against Americans. We are still the hope of the world. It is against the religious intolerance of the intolerant and provincialist fascism of the Bush administration."

Horsehockey! You have no clue! Your opinions are about as far from reality and the truth as a person can get. Please take your leftist bullshit to another forum that will be more open to your "opinions", if you want to call them that.

"Think about it. The British parliament can speak against the fundamentalist right wing in the US, but criticism from within is completely suppressed by the self-righteous, right wing attacks against any that oppose them."

Shut up! Really, nothing personal, but your full of shit. This is your opinion and nothing else. You have no way proving one thing you've just said. That fat-shit Michael Moore might agree, but you DO NOT speak for the majority of Americans. Come back to reality, quickly!

"What we need is perestroika, an open discourse that unveils the right wing fundamentalists for what they are."

No we don't. They are conservatives with our, well, maybe not your, best interests at heart. They are doing what they believe is the right thing to do, whether you like it or not. And quess what? The majority of Americans agree.

"Purely and simply they are fascists of the same degree as the Taliban..."

No, they are not. Only in your liberal fantasy world.

"...and Americans have become so disempowered that they are nearing a time when the domination of right wing control of invasive technologies and propaganda will be impossible to displace. It is a time for great despair. The times are fertile for the rebirth of the Mussolinis and Lenins that plunged the world into a holocaust."

I love your comparisons. They are so far removed from reality, it's almost funny. If you were to bring some sense to your posts I'm sure I will respond. If not this will be the first and only time I post on this thread.

Dustin

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did anyone mention the Pope was against the war?

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You know you’re in trouble when even Dr. Suess hates you. ut oh!

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bush is the man. fuck saddam and iraq. iraqis are too dumb to stand up for themselves so bush is doing them all a favor. and angel eyes-I HATE muslims. those stupid fuckers need to die. and babydoll you are a disgrase to white people, you arab-loving biotch. all you are to anyone is a pussy. nobody wants to hear your opinions becuase your only good for one thing. the rest of you protestors need to suck my dick.

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Don’t you love how a liberal or otherwise leftist person can make an
educated and insightful response to the issue at hand and leave it
to a knuckle-dragging conservative to sink into innuendo, insults,
and the liar-liar-pants-on-fire defense of their own twisted ideology.
I think it’s fairly obvious who has one this argument. Great post, Roy
Batty. I spent the whole time nodding my head whilst reading it. There
are some people in here that give me some hope for the future of
American society.

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To Drew69,

Why do you hate Muslims?

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[quote]To Drew69,
Why do you hate Muslims? [/quote]

Spiderman,
You left out women and anyone not white. Judging by the fact that he wants a bunch of men to felate him, at least we can assume that he does not discriminate against gay people.

Point is, don’t take it personally (assuming you’re Muslim). I feel sorry for people who expend that much energy hating so many people. Some people would rather be right than happy.

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I agree with you Batty. It is a sad state of affairs.

But I have an idea.

I think that Drew69 is in fact a muslim himself.

I think that when it came time to be circumcised the doctor slipped and cut off his whole penis. As a result he is full of inner turmoil and has turned against his own people.

This is also the reason why he wants people to suck his dick, over zealous male posturing so that no one catches onto his lack of a member. Not having a penis has also led to his hatred of “biotches” as he can no longer sexually satisfy a woman so he resents them all.

Just a possibillity…

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Well, I wasn’t quite going to go that far Spider, but I understand your anger if you are indeed Muslim because it was an extremely rude statement he made.

The more interesting point to make here is the fact that he hates Muslims, thinks they should all die, yet he admires a president who would supposedly FREE millions of oppressed Muslims. It seems that if Drew hates them that bad, then he would in turn hate anyone who would sympathize with them. Last time I heard Bush speak on the subject he came down really hard on anyone who would discriminate against Muslims and the Islamic faith. If Drew admires someone that much, perhaps he should try to emulate some of his actions and beliefs and show some tolerance and compassion.