Can I use it for extra calories for bulking?
How do/did you eat it? Add it to what?
cream is great. I don’t bulk with it, but it is great anywhere you use milk.
I also have some friend at work that mash their avocado with cream, apparently that is a dessert in the Phillipines. That would be all kinds of calories and healthy fats.
I use mine in my coffee and a bit in my scrambled eggs.
In with your protein powder for a quick meal.
my friend always talks about how great it is. and he’s made some really big strides…so i’d say it’s not a terrible idea.
with shakes would probably be the easiest.
to be honest, there are MUCH better sources of excess calories. despite the popular belief around here, saturated fats are not a panacea. they don’t increase your testosterone levels, and they CAN have detrimental health effects.
Though sat. fats aren’t the devil they are sometimes portrayed to be, it isn’t a good idea to chug it down either.
Moderation works. Eat 1/4 to 1/3 of your total calories from fat, and aim for a balanced intake of saturates, polys and monos. Simply eating eggs, dairy and leaner cuts of meat will get you where you should be wrt sat. fat intake. Adding a bunch of heavy cream of top of that will almost certainly push you over what is needed by the body.
Cream is not only more calorically dense than milk, it has less sugar. Just adding a bit to your shakes will jack up the cals a bit. I also always go for it instead of milk in mu coffee simply because of the less sugar factor (and I tend to use a lot less overall because it just affects the coffee more than milk does)
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[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
to be honest, there are MUCH better sources of excess calories. despite the popular belief around here, saturated fats are not a panacea. they don’t increase your testosterone levels, and they CAN have detrimental health effects.
Though sat. fats aren’t the devil they are sometimes portrayed to be, it isn’t a good idea to chug it down either.
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agreed. You’re scaring me lately
Thanks guys!
OG: that avocado-heavy cream combo sounds awesome. Will try.
Stu: So you’re saying not to use heavy cream only in the shakes but lets say 50/50 with milk or water?
JMoUCF87: You know, for some reason you come off like you have a personal agenda to disagree with everyone. What you said about fats just doesn’t seem to be suiting for most (if not all) people on this website. Plus the way you say it is “colored” in a way that suggests something but when called out on it, you may go back and say that it’s not what it said(and rightfully so). Do you write for Yahoo! or something?
Just sayin…
jCaesar, your response to JMoUCF87 is out of line. What he said is accurate; heavy cream isn’t the best, but it’s not the devil either, and is basically OK in moderation. Is there something I don’t know?
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
JMoUCF87: You know, for some reason you come off like you have a personal agenda to disagree with everyone.
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I’m sorry it comes off that way, but the amount of misinformation perpetrated on this message board exceeds that of pretty much every other bodybuilding/fitness forum I’ve visited (excluding, perhaps, the teenbodybuilding.com board)
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
What you said about fats just doesn’t seem to be suiting for most (if not all) people on this website.
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What did I say that you disagree with? Saturated fats (and fats in general) serve various important functions in a diet, but that’s not a green light to go chug some heavy cream or eat a stick of butter.
I’ll say it again: moderation works. A proper diet should include a moderate (20-30%) amount of fat. Anything above or below that amount tends to have more drawbacks than benefits, in general.
One can easily reach this level by simply eating plenty of animal protein (meat & dairy), nuts, fruits, veggies, and gasp! starchy carbs.
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
Plus the way you say it is “colored” in a way that suggests something but when called out on it, you may go back and say that it’s not what it said(and rightfully so). Do you write for Yahoo! or something?
Just sayin…[/quote]
I’m having a hard time discerning what that paragraph means exactly. No I don’t write for anyone.
My positions/views regarding sports nutrition has been prett consistent. This is because I know what works (and has been proven to work for decades), and I’m not in search of the latest fad supplement/diet/food that everyone seems to be looking for, but doesn’t exist.
[quote]G87 wrote:
jCaesar, your response to JMoUCF87 is out of line. What he said is accurate; heavy cream isn’t the best, but it’s not the devil either, and is basically OK in moderation. Is there something I don’t know?[/quote]
Your response to me is out of line. Re-read what I said. I wasn’t even talking about heavy cream. And I judged by his posts I seen in other threads
JMo- my “beef” (notice the quotes) was with the way you say things, that’s all. I agree with what you said. Sorry, fogot to state that earlier.
I wasn’t serious with asking if you write for yahoo. 'twas a joke. Like I said, it’s just the way you say things. And I’m guilty of the same thing man. So I won’t hold it against you if you took it the wrong way.
Bottom line: I have no beef with you (except for T-Nation forum being the most misinformed… have you been to bb.com forums???) and I agree that moderation is key. I’m sure you meant good, just didn’t come off that way
Cream has practically no protein, that’s my only “beef” with it.
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
JMo- my “beef” (notice the quotes) was with the way you say things, that’s all.[/quote]
That’s probably the lamest, and most feminine, reason to have a “beef” with someone.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
jCaesar88 wrote:
JMo- my “beef” (notice the quotes) was with the way you say things, that’s all.
That’s probably the lamest, and most feminine, reason to have a “beef” with someone.[/quote]
so if i come off as a know-it-all and condescending, you wouldn’t mind at all. lol, alright man
I remember using Larry SCott’s protein powder years ago, and one of his tricks to gaining weight, was to mix it with cream instead of milk or water. Granted no one should be ingesting tons and tons of saturated fat in any type of food, but even making a shake with water, and tossing in a few Tbsp of cream will add up over time.
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[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
I’ll say it again: moderation works. A proper diet should include a moderate (20-30%) amount of fat. Anything above or below that amount tends to have more drawbacks than benefits, in general.
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Unless you’re in a ketogenic diet, in which case you’d better not be eating 20-30% fat.
[quote]dudinator wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:
I’ll say it again: moderation works. A proper diet should include a moderate (20-30%) amount of fat. Anything above or below that amount tends to have more drawbacks than benefits, in general.
Unless you’re in a ketogenic diet, in which case you’d better not be eating 20-30% fat.
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I was speaking generally. The OP was talking about a bulking diet, and doing a ketogenic bulking diet, while a great was to get fat, not a great way to gain muscle.
You can safely have 1/3 of your fat intake being saturated. It’s actually not bad for someone who follows a low-carb diet but who has a large caloric intake.
I believe trans-fats are the real enemy of the fat group, not saturated fats.
[quote]jCaesar88 wrote:
G87 wrote:
jCaesar, your response to JMoUCF87 is out of line. What he said is accurate; heavy cream isn’t the best, but it’s not the devil either, and is basically OK in moderation. Is there something I don’t know?
Your response to me is out of line. Re-read what I said. I wasn’t even talking about heavy cream. And I judged by his posts I seen in other threads[/quote]
The title of the post is “Heavy Cream” – that’s not what you meant?
jpb