[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I have posted multiple stories from the late 90s indicated he was well known in America and in the Muslim world for even longer. [/quote]
Well known, my ass! You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I stand by my below-1% name recognition figure. To me, a well-known character has to, at least, break the double digits.
But keep repeating it. Maybe if you say it often enough and loudly somebody who knows jackshit about the Muslim world will believe you.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
You guys really don’t listen.
I’ll slow down a bit.
He WAS a top terrorist. Never said he wasn’t, among dozens, if not hundreds of others.
Did experts know him? Probably a lot of them.
Did the average-educated guy, like Bush, know him? No chance.
Do they know him now? You bet.
Same with the bulk of the muslim countries: Did their youth buy watches with his mug, listen to his videos or discuss his heroic exploits in pre 9/11? Course not.
Do they now?
The point remains the same, you radicalized a lot of people and gave them a hero figure.
While the secular one was hiding in a hole and was executed triumphantly, the real asshole mocks you from a cave, sitting among donkey shit making some guys here even tremble in fear.
Mission accomplished![/quote]
Everyone that read articles or watched the news knew him. I posted the news stories of the day. They even said he was well known!
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I have posted multiple stories from the late 90s indicated he was well known in America and in the Muslim world for even longer.
Well known, my ass! You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I stand by my below-1% name recognition figure. To me, a well-known character has to, at least, break the double digits.
But keep repeating it. Maybe if you say it often enough and loudly somebody who knows jackshit about the Muslim world will believe you.[/quote]
You are a lying asshole. I have proved my point that he was well known. Piss off.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/0543,50thvest,69291,31.html
[i]
August 25, 1998
… it’s only in the wake of the August 7 East African embassy bombings that the name Osama Bin Ladin has become widely known to Americans. In the worldwide Muslim community, however, Bin Ladin has been a controversial figure for several years. [/i]
…[/quote]
In case you missed it it says WIDELY KNOWN TO AMERICANS. It is from 1998.
Lixy is a radical Moroccan going to school in Sweden. That should help explain more.
your telling me that this idiot is from a country that is one of the major non-NATO allies of the United States, has suffered attacks from these same terrorists that he supports, and goes to school in a country that conscripts its military (which takes a part in afghanistan). oh never mind why bother?
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Ken Kaniff wrote:
Your partly wrong schwarz, he was well known since the late 90’s. What did happen though was that after 9/11 Bin Laden and Al Qaida were overrated like hell, that their significance was totally blown out of proportion. Given 20 fanatics any millionaire on earth could have organized 9/11. Aside from the Taliban camel jockeys they never had any connections to anyone of significance. Connections to Saddam? My ass.
I don’t dispute that he was known among experts. Like you I merely want to point out that his deeds were “blown out of proportion”.
Probably because it fitted into the schemed of the Bush administration so well:
“A supervillain, nearly holding WMDs in his hands, hating our freedoms and only I can save you with the Lord’s help, dear fellow americans, but it shall cost us…blablbala”
You know the rest, just switch on the TV. [/quote]
Even I heard of him in the '90’s, particularly in '98 when we sent some miisles to hit empty bases in Asscrackistan.
Lixy if you are such a supporter of these assclowns, then why don’t you get off your ass and get down there. Wrap a towel around your head, sit in some of that donkey shit your german friend talks about and wait for some of these baby stomping Marines you like to talk about. You won’t do this because you wouldn’t last two seconds in a combat zone at least the radicals there fight and die for what they believe in, I’m sure they would rather have you heralding their greatness than be in the mud and the blood with them. (sarcasm)
Until you are ready to fight for your cause maybe you should just shut the hell up.
These things we do so that others may live free!
Just heard the tape. Two observations:
The message is consistent with Al-Qaeda’s. That is, they accuse their enemies of waging war against Islam. A neo-crusade if you will where the other side hypocritically speaks of peace and tolerance while their soldiers are killing innocents, women, children and elderly. The voice then speaks of “those who pulished these drawings” which, as far as I know, encompasses every continent.
So, here Mr. Faceless Terrorist, I’m publishing the drawing myself, and if you don’t like it, BITE ME! If you can’t stomach free speech, go live in a cave. Oh wait…
[quote]Cpl. Mongo wrote:
your telling me that this idiot is from a country that is one of the major non-NATO allies of the United States, has suffered attacks from these same terrorists that he supports, and goes to school in a country that conscripts its military (which takes a part in afghanistan). oh never mind why bother? [/quote]
Just so you know, I was a dozen yards from the main explosion when Casablanca was hit by Islamists and fully supported the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Just heard the tape. Two observations:
The message is consistent with Al-Qaeda’s. That is, they accuse their enemies of waging war against Islam. A neo-crusade if you will where the other side hypocritically speaks of peace and tolerance while their soldiers are killing innocents, women, children and elderly. The voice then speaks of “those who pulished these drawings” which, as far as I know, encompasses every continent.
So, here Mr. Faceless Terrorist, I’m publishing the drawing myself, and if you don’t like it, BITE ME! If you can’t stomach free speech, go live in a cave. Oh wait…[/quote]
So 5 years ago, you didn’t even know who he was, now you are a fucking voice expert?
You have proven yourself to be nothing but a fucking liar.
Anyone that believes you is a fool. Anyone who takes your side is delusional at best.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Cpl. Mongo wrote:
your telling me that this idiot is from a country that is one of the major non-NATO allies of the United States, has suffered attacks from these same terrorists that he supports, and goes to school in a country that conscripts its military (which takes a part in afghanistan). oh never mind why bother?
Just so you know, I was a dozen yards from the main explosion when Casablanca was hit by Islamists and fully supported the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001.[/quote]
Liar. Fucking liar.
Fucking idiot,
that will be the last time I address you directly. I perceive you as a disgrace to the forum.
Your lack of reading and comprehending abilities is astounding.
I’m gonna ignore you completely, since only utter verbal garbage leaves your mouth.
In my eyes, you’ve lost to Lixy countless debates, never engaging in arguments but spewing out hatred.
Adios-
Schwarzfahrer
P.S. Fucking idiot.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Cpl. Mongo wrote:
your telling me that this idiot is from a country that is one of the major non-NATO allies of the United States, has suffered attacks from these same terrorists that he supports, and goes to school in a country that conscripts its military (which takes a part in afghanistan). oh never mind why bother?
Just so you know, I was a dozen yards from the main explosion when Casablanca was hit by Islamists [/quote]
Driving the getaway car eh?
[quote]
and fully supported the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001.[/quote]
They were not strict enough fundamentalists for you?
I must be seeing things. I swear I just read “go fuck a baby” from a regular poster.
And lifticus, you forgot to include my additional “fundamental” moniker in my original post. But to reiterate, any religion that requires an act to be performed is itself a contradiction to the ideal of freedom.
Facing east five times a day for prayer is not freedom. It is servitude.
Travelling the Hajj to Mecca is not a suggestion. It is a requirement.
It is a freedom to practice religious faith.
Does anyone else not see a paradox?
[quote]kroby wrote:
I must be seeing things. I swear I just read “go fuck a baby” from a regular poster.
And lifticus, you forgot to include my additional “fundamental” moniker in my original post. But to reiterate, any religion that requires an act to be performed is itself a contradiction to the ideal of freedom.
Facing east five times a day for prayer is not freedom. It is servitude.
Travelling the Hajj to Mecca is not a suggestion. It is a requirement.
It is a freedom to practice religious faith.
Does anyone else not see a paradox?[/quote]
Islam means submission.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Fucking idiot,
that will be the last time I address you directly. I perceive you as a disgrace to the forum.
Your lack of reading and comprehending abilities is astounding.
I’m gonna ignore you completely, since only utter verbal garbage leaves your mouth.
In my eyes, you’ve lost to Lixy countless debates, never engaging in arguments but spewing out hatred.
Adios-
Schwarzfahrer
P.S. Fucking idiot.
[/quote]
It would help if you actually used the screen name of the person who has shut you up. They should get a prize.
Does “fucking idiot” count as verbal garbage, or are you the only one allowed to use such verbiage?
I can only hope you are referring to me - but since you lack the simple mental ability to string together a coherent thought, and get it typed into the computer - I guess I will never know.
But since you opened up the name calling - You are a piece of shit who will only listen to that which supports his side of an argument. Never mind published articles to the contrary. Never mind people who know what the fuck actually was going on in this country 10 years ago. But fuckwads like you will listen to some dipshit rapist that was admittedly too busy being enamored by a fucking fire extinguisher to pay attention to world events.
I think it is a pathetic plea for attention when cowardly little fucks like you have to publicly announce that you are ignoring someone. Grow the fuck up, asshole. No one cares if you ignore them or not.
You will post again, and if it is the same stupidity-filled crap that has become your trademark, there will be someone there to call you on it.
But in the meantime - grow the fuck up and realize that the door to this place swings both ways. No one invited your stupid ass to come in here - and no one will shed a tear when your stupid ass leaves.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
So 5 years ago, you didn’t even know who he was, now you are a fucking voice expert? [/quote]
That’ll be seven years ago, not five. And I never presented myself as a voice expert. I gave my personal opinion based on the voice of the many publicly accessible recordings he issued thus far.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
pat wrote:
Americans and many westerners may not have known about Bin Laden, but the muslim world damn sure knew who he was. He became a “hero” in the Afgan war.
Rubbish! I am from the Muslim world and I dare you to find even 1 in a 100 Muslims who knew “about Bin Laden” before 9/11.
You are lying your ass off.
Anyone that never heard of him before August, 1998 heard about him when Clinton shot cruise missiles into Afghanistan in an attempt to kill him. There is no disputing this.
You are a liar. Nothing more needs to be said.[/quote]
Remember Taquiya is allowed when dealing with infidels…
[quote]lixy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
So 5 years ago, you didn’t even know who he was, now you are a fucking voice expert?
That’ll be seven years ago, not five. And I never presented myself as a voice expert. I gave my personal opinion based on the voice of the many publicly accessible recordings he issued thus far.[/quote]
Yeah. Yeah. Were you this bad at lying 5 years ago? How about 7?
Your opinion is well documented on here - and worthless.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Fucking idiot,
that will be the last time I address you directly. I perceive you as a disgrace to the forum.
Your lack of reading and comprehending abilities is astounding.
I’m gonna ignore you completely, since only utter verbal garbage leaves your mouth.
In my eyes, you’ve lost to Lixy countless debates, never engaging in arguments but spewing out hatred.
Adios-
Schwarzfahrer
P.S. Fucking idiot.
[/quote]
Fucking idiot did not post here, unless that’s what “Schwarzfahrer” means in dutch. Which one is fucking idiot?