Have You Ever Beta Orbited a Girl

Nah, the Pats wouldn’t touch him because of sexual assault allegations, so he’s going to the Cowboys. Jerry Jones doesn’t care about character.

oh right. I forgot the Pats ownership is allllll about high character when it comes to sexual conduct.

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No, that only applies to players, not owners. At least Jerry isn’t a hypocrite, he’s open about not giving a fuck.

Pretty solid. Pretty much any lender would be thrilled to give me a loan until it came time to talk about rates.

I love philosophy, read a ton. Aristotle, Epictetus, Kant, Rawls, whatever, I am into it. Two years ago, I was reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra, and my roommate asked if it was any good. Told him I liked it a lot, made me think. Next day, I see him with a copy. My buddy, an impressively devout Catholic, had never read any philosophy prior, and did not know Nietzsche. I think he was traumatized by his foray into the subject… I blame myself. Great book, bad starting point.

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Hah! Oh man that’s amazing. I had a somewhat related experience when a co-worker of mine with similar devotions found out I liked Nine Inch Nails, went to look up their songs, and immediately found the song “Heresy” from The Downward Spiral.

But hey, at least your roommate didn’t start with “The Anti-Christ”

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We can have entertaining conversation here, get a good laugh from our differing opinions but the constant personal insults and belittlement for no reason other than you are angry someone has a differing opinion than yours isn’t really called for, it’s boring and typical.

So , I mean we can choose to end that and continue to chat or just say fuck the thread.

Are you familiar with Sartre’s notion of radical freedom?

I’m familiar with it, I didn’t go much further into philosophy outside of 101 but I do like to read current discussion on free will, determinism, and how it applies to A.I and all that nerdy good stuff. Why ?

love me some NIN. Been to almost every tour since self-destruct in the 90s.

I don’t much care for your assertion that we can only either choose to end that and continue to chat or just say f**k the thread. There’s always a third option!

Yes, in rural parts of America some traditions still hold. I agree with you. However, at large the influence is to turn away from that. I’m not sure why this is such a drastic idea i’m presenting when the evidence is out there.

Isn’t this something conservatives have been talking about for a while now? It’s not entirely made up ya know.

Its’ cool that you keep talking yourself up, your ego must really turn your wife on but it isn’t doing it for me so let us refrain from getting personal. I don’t give a fuck about your life, and I would appreciate it if you would lay off the personal insults aimed towards someone you do not know. Thanks.

Carrying on- I tend to agree with your point though, gym guys usually date the girls that are smarter and have decent jobs lol. Maybe because they spend all their time working out? and the wives/gfs are the ones making good money. At least I see this happening a lot where I’m at.

I just described to you your average middle class man. Someone that went to college, graduate school, and passed a state board certified exam (CPA= certified public accountant, if for some reason you didn’t know).

How is that a shitty person? because they are bald (not their fault) and gaining weight like your average American man?

Dude, really?

well a) i’m not married. b) that wasn’t about me, it was about the people I’m friends with/compete with. I’m not personally dating a girl who makes more than me, that would be pretty hard to find.

yes, and you’re suggesting he should be able to land a girl who’s above average.

The average woman is overweight, and by definition a 5 on the 1-10 hotness scale, lol. That man should expect to land a very average, probably overweight woman. Because he’s not presenting anything better than that.

yea. I have standards. Earlier you were talking about landing a fucking dream girl. Have the goal posts now shifted? Are you suggesting the fat balding accountant can’t land an average woman? Because I disagree with that. That’s exactly the type of woman most fat bald accountants end up with.

If you want a dream girl, you gotta be better than average. significantly better. You don’t get to use ‘the average American man is fat, so it’s just fine’ excuse. Gotta be better than that.

I remember when I was in college reading pickup artists stuff. The real heart of all of it was the notion of presenting a package to women that is in some way unusual that sets you apart from all the other guys, and displaying value. You have to be funny, quick witted, smart, attractive, athletic, make good money. At least one of those things. Preferably a handful of them. The less value you present, the less you can expect in return. Relationships, at the end of the day, are largely transactional, always have been.

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I"m really happy for you. You got it all.

It’s really interesting to see the knee-jerk reaction people have.

first, they attack:

“you fucking Incel”
“basement dweller”
“neck beard loser”
“women hater”
“makes no money”

And then they talk themselves up:

“I’m amazing, look at me, look at me I got it all! look at my wife she’s hot as fuck, look how hot I am to I have time to go to the gym and I have time to make serious money! look at the money we make hahahaha!”
“my husband built my fucking house and paid my college loans while cooking and washing dishes!”
“FUCK ME MY LIFE IS AWESOME AMERICAN FREEDOM BITCHESS GOT MINE!!!”

lol, it really is something.

@T3hPwnisher

I wish every time we opened this thread we could get this song going

I’m just going to leave this right here…

That’s not a personal attack, it’s asking to not make things unnecessarily personal.

Gotcha. Yeah, you flappinit, and gainz are all starting to blur together. Sorry.

I assumed “dream girl” had the implied connotation of the perfect girl to each individual, a la ‘beauty is in the eye of the beholder’ because to you my dream girl may be a 7, or vice versa.

I think men are visual creatures (actually, I don’t have to think it, it’s a known fact backed by science), and therefore visual appearance will always be top priority unlike for most women they will settle for looks.

You can claim I am sexist here, maybe I am a little ‘sexist’ when it comes to this but so are you considering you do the scientific babe 1-10 scale ; )

Let me try and reiterate one of my main points again

I believe the current social climate pushing for a false sense of equality has led the dating landscape to be tilted too far one way and the consequences of this social experiment has given us movements like ‘incels’. Further, I am at odds with why women, in general, would want to be equal to men. Why they would want to kill themselves in the corporate world. The obsession with work is an American phenomena, which was once mainly male oriented, but now has become female focused and one not done by their own merits. This is a manipulation game that will not serve men nor women well in the future

I could be wrong, but this is my stance.

Men being visual creatures doesn’t automatically mean visual appearance is top priority. Throughout history body type was merely used as a lifehack to guess someone’s relative ability to stay alive.

Even today, you’re talking about all relationships. The vast majority of which fail. It’s the ones that think out the bigger picture beyond T&A that go the distance, not the other way around.

Dating isn’t that hard. Jeez

Because they want to buy things.

Because women realized they wanted the ability to have nice things AND the ability to leave a jackass bf/husband if they so choose.

American work has not become female focused. In the vast majority of high paying fields/industries, women are still far and away less represented

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You posted on a website devoted to training and self improvement. The regular posters here are masters of self control and goal oriented behaviour or they’re trying to learn it at (like me).

People here take goals seriously, usually in multiple areas of their life.

If your goal is to get an awesome spouse, then go be the absolutely most awesome person you can be. You’ll have to fend potential mates away with a stick.

People here problem solve. You stated a problem and we gave you the solution. If you want empathy and a shoulder to cry on go to reddit.

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You just spent this entire thread shitting on average American women for gaining weight. How are you this obtuse? Nobody has to be nice to you, and none of those insults you listed are half as bad as the ones you lobbed at an entire gender.

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Guys guys,

If we all agree that all humans are just…just awful, then we can conclude that everyone gets exactly who they deserve.

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