I did … 70% to 65% (give or take) is still not comforting haha
A quick scan of my office and I’m probably the only one overweight because of my muscle mass … the rest are a bunch of fatties
You know, I feel I got that fantasy guy, though he has many shortcomings.
But I think he may feel the same way.
Neither of us are construction workers (he was during college) but we certainly spend a good bit of our time getting dirty together.
Your thinking and your examples are exceptionally unidimensional. Some people certainly lack more than one dimension; these are not the people I find interesting in the long term. My example of Anna Kendrick, since she came up in the thread and is not a classic Hollywood bombshell, meant to offer that her beauty is enhanced by what seems to be an especially appealing personality.
And for the record, I do enjoy taking care of him if by “taking care of” we mean keeping a clean and welcoming home and occasionally cooking very tasty dinners. He takes care of me by also occasionally cooking very tasty dinners and keeping all of our machine-y things working. He is also in charge of mice should they happen along. I can do that, but neither of us enjoys the ensuing trauma.
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My grandfather born in 1936 had zero issue doing the dishes or folding clothes. He was a farmer as a kid and a tow boat captain, so very classically masculine. I never once heard him demean or mistreat my grandmother. I don’t know where people get this Leave it to Beaver idea and think everyone is like June and Ward in the real world.
Before the industrial revolution common men and women did the exact same work, farmed and tried not to starve. All this angst about women working is laughable. They’ve been working alongside men the entire time.
I’m in Texas. That applies here, I think. Lol. ‘We’ like to hold onto tradition. And to be clear, I’m certainly not saying this is a universal thing, not remotely. I’m just saying it’s a thing that still exists, and is prevalent, in small towns across my state.
I’m not one of those people, as should be pretty clear from my posts. I prefer to share in the house work. I happen to like doing laundry, and I don’t mind doing the dishes. I don’t like to cook, so when I date someone who does, that’s a bonus, but it’s certainly not a requirement I have. I’m content with eating out a lot, I’ve done plenty of that over the years.
This, for sure. This is what a healthy relationship looks like to me.
That’s my thought. My grandfather was a fisherman and he hired labourers. They all worked from the boats down the hill from the house. My grandmother ran the home and the home business which included fishing and a dry goods store. This was in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s. My mother rolls her eyes when people ask about parents spending quality time with their kids. The kids were working too.
Add to that, my father was quite good at sewing. He was a sub-mariner in the 70’s and when you’re at sea, if you can’t make small repairs, you’re s.o.l.
I’m continually surprised by the number of people, both men and women who take a weird pride in being willfully ignorant and incapable of what I consider basic skills.
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Exactly. I was just talking to my business partner (and best friend) about my increasing desire to get a dog. My husband has never had one because he’s always traveled for work and for whatever reason grew up without them. He’s ambivalent about getting one, “not sure it’s the right time,” and my bf and I were talking about how completely suited he is to having a dog and how much we speculate that he’ll love having someone to hang with him while he’s working outside. And it occurred to me that if he has a dog to jump into the filthy pickup to go with him to do things, maybe I won’t have to.
Because I will continue to go cut down trees and haul firewood off our 165 acres as long as he continues to want a buddy to go with him. As he goes with me to places he’d perhaps not go on his own.
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I knew I could count on one of my Canadian brethren or sistren to deliver on that!
I also work out in my basement, and I noticed @planetcybertron mentioned in your log that she thought you would’ve looked like me and I would’ve looked like you, so I guess we’re the same guy?
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You’re not kidding, that thread is way better than this one.
Well here’s my point, which 50 posts later from a wide cross section of people from all over the continent have been proven quite thoroughly:
You might be wrong about this subject. Doesn’t make you a bad person or diminish you in any way.
I just think that what ever subreddit or incel boards you trot this stuff out on are must be populated with some morbidly hopeless people.
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I disagree. I think that espousing and putting effort into the spread of certain beliefs does make you an objectively bad person, in that you are actively trying to make the world a worse place, whether you think that’s what you’re doing or not…
Oh man, is here where we get to debate if benefitting humanity is in itself a moral good?
I hope you all brought your copies of Thus Spoke Zarathustra!
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I’m a bit more optimistic. I’ve seen some people make a pretty good turn around once they let go of false or malformed beliefs.
I doubt that will be the outcome of this whole exchange though. Certainly wouldn’t bet on it anyways.
I wouldn’t say I’m totally pessimistic, and I certainly don’t believe people are irredeemable. Maybe I was a little heavy on the hyperbole, and what I should have said was he was a person doing an objectively bad thing. People are complex creatures, and I’m sure there are redeeming qualities we can’t see in this one-dimensional conversation. Ultimately, though, people are judged by the results of their actions rather than their intent, since that’s all we can really base anything on. I could Godwin the conversation and say even a certain fascist dictator probably thought he was a good person making the world a better place…
Oooh oooh, consequentialism! But what about deontology?
Heheh, we’d better not divert a perfectly entertaining thread with ethics debate, so I hereby apologize for taking it in that direction. Let’s return to our regularly-scheduled lunacy…
Oh, and fuck deontology, that sort of thinking is why Jaime Lannister is reviled for killing the Mad King!
Or I could go with a Dungeons and Dragons reference, and just say that I’m more of a Chaotic Good than a Lawful Good person.
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Didn’t he sign with the Pats or something?
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I like Chaotic Neutral, just so I have options.
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Ever notice how we’re never in the same place at the same time?
There are no coincidences.
How’s your credit score btw?
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I like Chaotic Neutral in theory, but sort of despise it in practice, just because I’ve seen too many players use it as an excuse to be ‘so random’ and I just want to smack them in the head.
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