Medical and eating out make up 60% of my expenses.
Don’t eat out. Biggest waste of fucking money, not to mention horribly unhealthy most of the time.
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How do you suppose you do that when you travel 4 of 7 days a week for work?
oh well ok that’s a whole other ball game then. I dunno what you do at that point.
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I eat some bland utilitarian food… but, that’s so gross.
You can make it more interesting by adding salt.
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The idea that there are grown assed men out there who can’t cook or clean for themselves makes me feel quite sad for mankind.
Disclaimer: I haven’t read all of this thread yet, I feel like this might be the least of my worries come the end.
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Which is why I don’t buy it when you claim you are looking out for the best interests of women.
I posted a pic of my tuna shake and everyone got all weird. I think it’s weirder to eat tuna at this point. Getting tired of it.
This is fair. I really didn’t mean to drag you in, more just use you as an unwilling example, lol. For me there’s value in these discussions because people I respect are sharing about their own thoughts and experiences, and it enhances my own “long term observation” to know that there are both men and women who feel and operate as I do, as it enhances me to know what supports belief systems that vary wildly from mine - which helps me to better understand some of the people I work with.
I went the opposite way to some extent. When I had kids I believed that caring for them was the far superior use of my time, which was based on my experience growing up with a mother who worked nights as a nurse and then eventually left the family to pursue her own happy life. It took a therapist to note that “it’s funny that she waited for you to go to school to go back to work, then worked while you were home.” Yeah, funny. Being at home with my children was an incredible blessing, and I thank their father for affording me that luxury, but at the same time he was never stable enough - emotionally, financially - that I felt safe, and it frankly kept me in a marriage that I should have left much sooner, for my sake and the kids’. I also think that if my mother had felt more valued as the entire person she was, things might have gone differently. That isn’t a matter of home or work, but of respect.
My work can be stressful, but it’s also very satisfying. While I’m not after money for its own sake (am not ambitious in that regard) I do like feeling that I can be independent if need be. I was going to quote a post that mentioned dependence, independence, and interdependence, but it was withdrawn for some reason. At any rate, interdependence is the sweet spot for me, and for most people. I rely on my husband’s participation in our partnership as he relies on mine, but we can each function well without the other. However functioning well is not the goal. Contentment is.
What do they care whether a girl “feels like” a 10 on Tinder? What that tells me is that they can’t attract girls they think are 7’s and they’re bitter that the girls are overvaluing themselves. But the girls are not overvaluing themselves. Because let’s be clear that if they’re being that choosy, they can afford to. The market determines the value of goods. And “as long as she isn’t fat”? What discriminating young men! Do you think it’s possible that these guys are maybe 4’s or 5’s and can’t close a B rate girl because she can do much better? That’s going to be my guess.
Oh, I see that @dt79 just said the same thing.
Mmm-hmm.
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Apologies, I felt it came across as a bit “look what I just learnt in psych 101”, so I withdrew it. I’m glad to find someone agreed with the sentiment, if not the tone.
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Yeah, but you explained it a lot better than me lol.
Look up INCELs and “land whales”.
Is this likely to restore my faith in humanity? Or is it exactly what I think it is?
It’s exactly what you think it is.
I went to my email notifications to read the content of the post and agree entirely. Being a lone wolf isn’t the goal. The lone wolf usually dies. Interdependence is necessary for a healthy social eco-system.
My sentiments in half as many words.
@greenboy I can second this. Physical attraction is deepened and exemplified by non-visual attributes, at least for me.
Curious, how old are you?
Exactly the market dictates it. There are far more men in this country looking for a partner than there are women. The ratio is off. This causes a problem in itself, but then you have the manipulation of instagram filters, and of social media in general compounded with society telling these girls “you deserve it all princess!” is a recipe for exactly what we are seeing - incels.
We know women are the selective ones, they choose everything, the game was already tilted in their direction, but now men are becoming almost powerless. This sounds extreme, and it is , but it’s the direction we are headed. And please don’t reply with “but but but men still control everything” yeah like .0001% of men in this world. Enough of that dumb example I constantly hear in the media.
Most of your perspective comes from one made in the U.S, step outside of this place, go to somewhere the girl/guy ratio tilts in favor of the man. Go somewhere where the job market is bad to the point where a guy simply having a car is a big deal and you’ll see something very very different than what you experience here.
Society is going against biology, and I find that to be dangerous. This is my main point.
How old am I? Wrong side of 30. I have many faults, and shortcomings but finding women is not one of them. I am simply observing what is happening around me, especially to the younger dudes out there.