What are you talking about they’re worth less than American women? Have you been to Miami? Latin women crush everything. Guys go there from all over the country to try and tap some South American girl with a fat ass. lol
If you are telling me that nowadays guys are looking for women that can make good money I wouldn’t doubt that, but I’d also say that is part of the problem. The system is fucked up when men are needing women to make as much or more than them in order to live a decent life.
Ok, now have you ever observed someone who’s feelings did not match the reality of a given situation?
Like, Maybe some people’s feelings are just plain wrong.
Like after my wife was promoted into management, some little shitbag decided to put screws into her tires causing damage and leaking. Passive aggressive little incel fucktard thought that he deserved the promotion SHE got! So he started damaging her car, not thinking that she drives on a highway after pulling out with damaged tires. Or put our son into that car.
That’s why I really don’t appreciate these deluded, emasculated, resentful stupid fucks, or people that promote these ideas.
But, since nobody got hurt, the little worm got shit canned, and I got better at plugging tires- I guess I can look back at it and laugh now, and think “Yeah, Fuck their FEELINGS!”.
You do know that chasing such women and elsewhere on this earth is not all fun and games in the same way that it’s not all fun and games with American white women! Plenty of men (and women) have romanticized and fetishized foreign people, only to realize that after the initial erotic thrills, again, it’s not all fun and games! And this goes for all races and ethnicities. Have you met many Latinas throughout your life? I have. I’ve worked alongside them and roamed around their towns for nearly fifteen years. So has my whole maternal side of the family.
Also, self-aware and smart women of all races know when they’re being fetishized.
I don’t think a woman should have to dumb herself down to make sure a man doesn’t feel emasculated. That’s a confidence issue on his end, not women’s problem. Also, women making money means they don’t have to settle. If someone treats her poorly, she can leave. Just like a man can go find someone else if he is unhappy. Most of this thread is a lot of complaining about supposedly hypothetical men. I don’t know. I think that each family works to find its own happy balance. Sometimes that means one income, sometimes that means two. If you’re constantly seeing things as a power struggle, I don’t think it is going to end well. That’s just adversarial. The example you gave above is kind of silly. Maybe you’ve had bad experiences with women? Or maybe these men should be choosing different women? It’s just a lot of complaining about what others are doing, rather than taking responsibility for your own situation (your being universal). That’s my biggest issue with the whole incel group. Women don’t owe men sex. It’s not a given. Just like women aren’t owed being taken care of by a man. Some women get “taken care of” and they do the things that ensure that continues - they look good, keep in shape, etc., other women eliminate that need and work for themselves. Now they can choose who they WANT to be with rather than who they NEED to be with. All of the support given to making yourself the best version you can, both men and women, is really what I think is the best solution to all of these issues. If you’re in a relationship that doesn’t work for you (no sex, children that aren’t yours) you can leave. If you aren’t getting the women that you think you deserve, you can either blame them and your situation will remain the same, or you can change and see what works and what doesn’t.
No shit. If you’re from the US and go to a bar in the Philippines where girls sit, drink with you and let you grope them for money(it’s called the “ladies’s drink system” if you want to find out more) they’re immediately going to think you’re some rich guy.
If you’re a fat, balding loser in his forties who still makes minimum wage, they’re still going to think you’re rich since you’re from the US. They’ll sit with you instead of the local patrons because you can afford a bigger tip. They know they can fleece you because they know you’re not streetwise on a local level. Maybe you’ll like one of them and they can get a greencard in the US.
So they tell you stuff that you really love to hear because women are really good at that. And another loser thinks he’s worth a lot more than what he really is.
Oh boy. That’s what you took out of it? It’s funny that you guys do this.
You tell me I twist my words, but all of you twist the game. Everyone of you here talk about being a better man, and having attributes and quality that are desirable. You all approach this as a transaction, a job interview, but then when It is flipped towards putting the onus on the woman (like that other thread) or when I say something like above then it’s “ohhhh you want women to give up their dignity” or some nonsense.
But if you admit it is a fucking game to begin with then what is the problem here??? this seems like white knighting to me.
I’m really interested in seeing how this cultural shift plays out. Really, I am. It’s why I sit here shooting the shit with you all, I find it interesting how you guys see these things, and how you approach it because I feel like it is so far removed from what reality will be for a lot of younger men and women in a few years time.
Also, it’s the area you’re already (and will continue to) bleed support from Brick. His interests are in a strong family unit, as strong family units produce the best societies.
You’re the mid 30s overweight guy who got divorced because he didn’t want kids. The guy who values sex and sandwich making as tier 1 attributes above all else. You’re the problem big guy
Oh cool boiler plate politician speak. Have you thought about a practical way to make that happen? I’m all ears.
Genuinely all ears. It’s a problem that nobody seems to be able to solve. I would genuinely love to go back to a time where a single full time job can support a family of 4.
Thanks. You’re correct. It’s just that I’ve shared some ideas that people consider archaic to get there.
And this is where I’m confused by GB. He notices some of the social pathologies I see, and then starts talking of behaviors that lead straight to these pathologies: fetishization of women of other races (this is not the same of genuinely being fond of their kind and cultures), vacation sex fests, serial dating leading to nowhere, and sexual objectification. We discussed female narcissism and it is that exact objectification of them that leads to that narcissism for the troubled ones. I’m not speaking of great women who have more going for them than their sexuality. My take: want to get rid of social pathology? Raise good families!
Not sure why you think that is a character flaw? I have strong libido, it must be nice not to have one I guess? Reminds me of that scene in Family Guy where two wealthy Englishmen are sitting down reading newspapers smoking cigars and they say something like “it was good to forget women” or something like that… trying to find that video
Yes, I value sex and a woman that cooks me food lol. That’s hilarious that you think that is an absurd position.
And why do you think I’m overweight? Is that you projecting in order to make yourself feel better? You do this a lot.
Well, some suggest it’s as simple as taxing the rich more and paying people down the pipeline more instead of flushing it back into the market. I don’t know, really. I don’t pretend to know either.
Right, because it comes full circle. Take for example that other thread. Guy is isn’t being satisfied by his wife, if he had the opportunity he would bounce immediately, I’m sure. In that thread he is shunned for thinking he deserves to be pleased at home. Unreal.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think I read one person in there saying that she’s not doing her part. They’re all saying he’s asking or expecting too much from her lol isn’t that crazy? I think it is crazy. The blame is squarely on his shoulders. Look at that fucking double standard.
There’s even jokes in there that he isn’t doing his part to excite her. THAT IS FUCKING LUNACY. But it kind of explains not only the male mind, but the female mind when it comes to sex in this country. And the porn reflects it - white American porn is probably the most stupidest porn (but we’ll get into that discussion at another time)
With little kids and in my 30s here. 3 times is a good week. If we didn’t have kids/jobs/chores it’d be 10 times per week. But life is a helluva cock blocker lol.
