Have You Ever Beta Orbited a Girl

See, this is the problem with you. Most short guys are intolerable pricks trying to overcompensate? Like, really? Women are entitled, short men who workout are pricks, all drinkers have moon faces, etc. You are just. so. negative.

Which is exactly how you describe the entitled women. They want more than they should rightly expect. Pot, kettle.

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Not really. All that’s necessary to counter a concept supported solely by anecdotal evidence is a counter anecdote.

These are some of the richest men on the planet. If men only care about looks and women only care about resources then the richest men on the planet should have the most beautiful wives on the planet.

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@polo77j

All in I have 12 of the 3x4 horse stall mats, but if pressed I could block it to 6 deep 2 wide instead of 3 deep 4 wide.

Looking at about ~1600 all in expense. Plates are all refurb from Craigslist and most of the individual stuff was bought as Titan had good deals (they have free shipping, so no reason to care about buying all at once).

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In a nutshell I think the incel phenomenon stems from a fragmented and atomized society with plenty of social pathologies. Sure there are incels who overrate themselves but I think the vast majority are suffering from mental illness, alienation, or other undesirable conditions. Some of their conditions stem from dysfunctional households which truly can warp a person’s trajectory, social acuity, and future behavior.

It takes one to know one.

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No do you?

Point to me where I said that or implied it .. matter of fact go back and read what I wrote then explain to me what you think i said

I think you’ll like it .. seems you already understand a lot of what is said in the book

@pfury .. thanks man .. I like that set up .. I’m starting to build my own garage gym .. starting with the rack and bench

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While I stand behind my reasoning at the time, if I could go back I’d definitely get stands that are connected (or a real rack) and buy a legit (non Titan, probably rogue) barbell.

Also in the back there isn’t a great view of it but I got one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FJ2PL26/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Absolute lifechanger for at home leg day. Squats and lunges got hella boring reeeeeally fast

Edit: you’re also probably aware, but horse stall mats from a local rural store are amazingly cheap compared to gym flooring. If you have a vehicle that can move them most sell 4x6 foot mats. Amazing deal and super heavy duty

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There’s that, but then there are the men that listen and identify with their message, or worse, what they think that message is.

I think that some men feel emasculated, whether by certain events or by never having had a good example of masculinity to develop their own from. Some of the latter do pretty decent imitations or come about it in their own way but it’s the first group that worry me. They’re the ones that can be resentful and rationalize some out of bounds behaviors.

If there is a dearth of masculinity (and I do believe there is) it is a problem of man’s own making by abandoning the role.

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Do you have any experience with PRx performance racks?

I’m skeptical of the quality but I’d appreciate the space saving feature…

Not them specifically (I think they fold up down while most fold left right). I have a buddy with the Titan fold in rack and he said it’s kinda annoying to constantly be adding/removing attachments if he wants to fold it in.

Imo it’s still a good buy if you need the space saved. I never actually used his but it seemed sturdy enough for what a guy like me is going to lift

No it isn’t. It’s skewed far in favor of people with good social skills.

This reminds me of my old buddy. He was raised by 2 md’s, one of the nation’s finest private school educations, and had a trust fund that required a wealth manager. Everything in his life was the Absolute finest, money is no object.

But here’s the catch- I used to straight up smoke him when it came to attracting women, because he had not only no social skills, but negatives. He was dripping with status to the point of being a pretentious douchebag.

Smoked. By a guy that wears Wal-Mart, and usually smelled like a chainsaw, but could smile, compliment, and converse politely and with some humor. And I really am not a particularly great looking guy either.

Social media and apps mean nothing when the rubber finally meets the road. One still has to be personable enough to close the deal in person.

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@pfury @polo77j

I went with Rep Fitness instead of Titan for my power rack, not a significant cost different and I felt like a jump in quality. I couldn’t justify Rogue prices.

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This is one of the issues we keep coming back to. I don’t agree that the game is skewed in favour of women right now. So we would need to agree that that was true before discussing why.

@greenboy no, I never took anything specifically to help me get that lean.

I have been a TRT patient since being diagnosed with hypogonadism in 2002, though my symptoms started in 2001. I competed in a natural federation that allows TRT. I have never done steroids for bodybuilding purposes. I wanted to compete in the INBF but unfortunately I was denied because of TRT.

There is no point in getting that lean other than for competitive BB. It’s an unhealthy, underfed, overtrained condition. I loved the experience though and if I had done it earlier in life, I would’ve loved to have done a few more shows.

A LOT of men are feeling like this. More than some of you may believe. It can be guys that have great jobs, look good, are sociable, and they still feel this way.

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I should have clarified the short guy comment. Most of them that are chasing women, or trying to “swim” in women are the intolerable types, but then again any guy like that tends to be on a level of obnoxiousness, being short seems to add to it.

But yes most women today are entitled. That I stand by my word 100%.

If they really have all those things, and still feel emasculated, my dad’s advice would be to man the fuck up.

Wouldn’t necessarily be my advice, depending on the situation, but Papa pfury gets it right every so often

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I think women have more power than some of you are letting on… we have another thread going on right now demonstrating that in the off topic section.

And what happens when I say " relegate the woman to the sidelines" I’m the evil guy. lol.

Guy does everything for the wife and a kid that isn’t even his and he can’t get some goddamn ass? in his own home?

You know how this works in Latin countries? The wife either accepts the man going out and getting it elsewhere, or she gives it, she gives it to be a GOOD WIFE. If not, she knows the guy can easily replace her with someone 10 to sometimes 20 years younger.

You know why women are different in some parts of those countries? Because they know they can be replaced with ease. They know finding a good man that will take care of them is more difficult.

And here we are lambasting the guy telling him his expectations are unreasonable. FUCK meeeee I’d say most of you are actually emasculated. lollll

I think you have a misconception with the playing field leveling. They have more power relative to 20 years ago. I still find the thought that they have more absolute power a laughable joke.

If you say “let women relegate themselves to the timeline if they want to” you’ll get a much different response.

Maybe he’s an asshole? Do you sleep with people that treat you like shit?

Not saying that’s what’s happening in the other thread, but repeating your singular side of an obviously biased concept doesn’t make you right. It makes you a parrot

You mean the countries where women have virtually no power to live without a man unless they enjoy poverty?

Why do you think that is? Maybe because the men have CRIPPLING levels of control over the women?

Because objectively they’re worth far less than American women. Having less positive attributes isn’t a bonus.

In my defense, I probably get laid a lot more than you.

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Also, the guy is in his 50’s and hitting it three times a week. Not saying that’s enough if it’s not, but it’s more than most people manage, and I’m pretty sure more than you, GB

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Well that’s a letdown.

Women in their 50s can experience decreased libido if their partner doesn’t know how to please them (and sometimes even then).

WHO KNEW?!?