Have You Ever Beta Orbited a Girl

Sounds like flip is just retaining funds.

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His face is rich af

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The trick is to spend all your money, then go into debt. THEN, a surplus of money will rush into your bank account.

It’s science really.

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Here’s the reason why I’m so flabbergasted by the rhetoric in this thread. Based on my PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS, I’ve seen all sorts of guys with hot girls. I was 6’4, 165 with a Jew fro in high school, and I pretty much just smoked weed and played video games, and I dated 3 of the hottest girls in school. I have also seen crazy hot girls with guys who look fat and douchey. Not often, but absolutely more than 10 times. I have never, ever, ever seen a jacked, handsome guy with a fat, ugly girl. Guys have the advantage of being able to get by SOLELY on personality. So, if you’re a certain personality, perhaps you may find women difficult to navigate and life to be unfair. But whether you’re goofy, skinny, fat, bald, poor, or rich, if you can make a girl laugh and smile, you can win her over.

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It’s not that easy. He’s got to get one in a room alone with him before he can pull his pants down.

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Yeah, I agree with you. Only that when you get older it becomes more about how much you make than about how cool of a guy you are and how awesome your personality is.

Yet, the one true constant is that men still put looks above everything else lol. Do you ever see a really good looking guy with a busted chic? Better yet, do you ever see a rich man with a really busted woman? Unless he married her when he was broke, which then most of the time he then switches her out for something younger and more attractive.

I don’t remember where I heard this but I recall a baseball scout once saying he factored in what type of girlfriend the player had to gauge the players’ confidence level lollll

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THIS IS MY POINT. Women have a much harder time if they’re not pretty by the current standards of beauty. Men can get by on personality or social standing alone. That gives us an ADVANTAGE. There are not vast crowds of men who are wonderful people but end up alone. It happens, but not on the heart-wrenching scale you guys are talking about. There ARE socially inept, unappealing men who demand that the nice things in life be handed to them, and they are everywhere.

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This is a theory I simply do not see translating into practice. Men do not have the advantage right now. Average women are everywhere, and they demand so much more than they should otherwise lol.

@BrickHead posted a graph on this a month ago gotta scroll up to find it

It’s personal observation, which you take as gospel. You just said that no handsome or rich men are dating ugly women. Average women are supposed to be better than ugly women, and yet they’re demanding too much and getting too much? Also - “average women are everywhere.” It’s almost like you don’t understand the meaning of the word Average.

It is time - nay, it has long been time - for you to consider that your abrasive personality is a turn-off for women everywhere, and that men claiming to be oppressed victims look like total pussies.

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Once again, and this is vital here, I don’t have a problem picking up women. I never did. Ever.

My abrasive personality is for this place, it’s for “locker room” talk. I’m not going to go out and berate some girl, dude. Now, if she is a friend of mine for many years she probably knows how I think. I don’t just start conversations with “you are all bitches” to randoms.

I know that I use terms loosely, but I’m trying to get a point across without getting too boggled down in semantics. So, when I say your ‘average’ girl, I’m talking about women that aren’t walking into the gym and blowing the minds of every bro there lifting a dumbbell.

I think women in the United States feel entitled. I think this entitlement has translated into all aspects of life for them. Fuck, for example, recently the womens pro team (I didn’t even know there was one?) in hockey is demanding higher pay or something. I don’t even understand how that is possible. Who knew there was a fucking pro league? Also, the womens soccer team wants more money as well… why? how?

Do you know that the biggest soccer loving country in the world, Brazil, gives so little shits about it’s women’s team that one time jerseys had to be donated to them. They had no money to practice. Yes, that is kind of fucked up, and I asked a friend of mine that is from there why this was the case. His response was totally logical “no one gives a fuck, watching women play is boring”

And he’s right. We are constantly being force fed shit like women’s basketball lol. NO ONE CARES. Why do they deserve to get paid more money? because they’re women???

This sense of entitlement now translates into the dating world. They think they are too good for the, what do you guys call it here? “lesser men” while most of them should be fortunate with any guy at all .

You guys flip the argument and say that you think I mean men are entitled to get pussy or something like that. Which is not what I say at all.

And im’ also not speaking to guys like that ‘diesel weasel’. that may truly be a “lesser man” lol fucking hilarious

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Obviously that’s only because you’re 6’4 and as such a god amongst men

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Yes, many times!

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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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Do you want the best woman you can get or just what ever you can get?

Do you want the best job you can get or just what ever comes your way?

(using universal “you”, not personal “you”)

Why would women not want the same?

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Last time I had a real drink, my dad and I put away a couple of bottles of whiskey after a night out of wine at dinner and cocktails after.

I’m not going to recommend drinking until 4am as a pre-weigh-in tactic, but I lost 12lbs overnight. It seems pretty obvious that a beer or two would be helpful to cut water.

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Buffet:

Gates:

Zucks:

Ortega:

Nothing wrong with any of these women. But none of them are supermodels either. If the wealthiest/highest status get the prettiest wives… how do you splain this?

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I was actually going to refer to some of these couples. Aside from billionaires there are many well-to-do men with homely or ordinary-looking women. Some men simply met a women they liked, for whatever reason, looks aside. And some of these men aren’t handsome either. And men with some foresight have to chose women who will be good wives and mothers.

There’s a lot more to a marriage than looks and sex: paying bills, dealing with in-laws, child raising, chores.

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The influential and outspoken men discussing the trajectory of men generally are actually men doing well. So I don’t get the notion that such men are some resentful and whining lot.

I’ve discussed the topic here and I’m not lacking anything. I have a home, wife, kid, another kid on the way, friends, and a highly involved extended family. And when I say friends, of course some are closer than others, but of the close ones, they’re great friends in every sense of the term! I commute 25 minutes to an alright place of work. Knock on wood, my days are mostly enjoyable or at least tranquil. And in some ways I’m privileged. My family paid a huge chunk for my home and they’ve voluntarily treated us and bend over backwards for my kid and wife. And they truly enjoy doing this.

I started to attend mass at the nearby church with my wife and kid because she is Christian and although I am a biological Jew, I was previously atheistical, Im now not, and I enjoy my time there. My son was baptized and we celebrate holidays (quite seriously actually).

I can actually dismiss all my previous experience, observations, hearsay, readings, and listening, and think or say, “I dunno what some guys are talking about. It’s just a matter of trying hard, doing what ya gotta do. You see somethin’? I never see it. Your experience? I don’t know anyone who has that experience.”

My opinion is what makes a man is realizing he actually might be a limited fellow who has not seen or known it all and never will, and recognizes that maybe, just maybe, people with plausible ideas and sentiments are out there. And they’re not crazy. In our daily lives we see hardly any of this country, let alone the world.

I am speaking to the group generally.

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You might consider that choosing your words more carefully can in fact help get a point across, rather than open up opportunities for trolling or needing to reiterate your point.

Again, your thoughts on all this aren’t groundbreaking territory, but failing to deliver your message succinctly falls on you.

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You do understand your observation is not all there is, right? That’s literally all anyone with a contradictory experience is saying. Not that you’re wrong, but that their experience differs from yours. Not sure why you feel the need to defend everything, but it’s weird.

Not a dip fan .. my shoulders feel terrible .. I think I might lean forward too much .. I could probably take a video of myself performing them, but I’d much rather take the advice of Vogue Australia…

@pfury .. curious what equipment you have/how much outlay for set up and how much space it takes up?

Wanna know what else was common fucking knowledge? Earth centric model of the solar system .. flat Earth .. etc. etc. etc. Just do your own quick experiment and try to prove yourself wrong .. the experiment design was already given to you .. just execute it.

@flappinit .. tbf, developing a good, strong personality isn’t that easy and takes time and like talking to people and shit…

Ok .. it can in SOME cases, not all, and I do not know in what proportion (I’m assuming you don’t know that either).

I have a buddy who’s around our age (if your alleged age is to be believed .. if you’re truly mid-30s we’re about the same age) who got divorced a few years ago. He’s a school teacher who doesn’t make bank or anything like that but he’s been swimming it pussy since his divorced b/c of his personality (he’s not a bad looking dude but he’s 5’4" .. but athletic). I have a couple other similar examples. But I also know a few instances that support your assertion. Hence, it’s not as black and white as you claimed…

Either Moneyball or that shitty movie with Clint Eastwood and Amy Adams…I’ve heard it too and it came from essentially a caricature of an “old school” baseball scout .. basically a straw man

Why? That’s fucking weird man. It’s odd for a 30-something person to cultivate an abrasive personality for “this place” .. just. weird.

So why do you continue to do it? If you know what the proper use is to get your point across why continue to be lazy with your words? You clearly like to type out long responses .. why not use concise, effective language for making your point? Again. Just weird. If you’re really trying to make a point, why not make it succinct and effective? Why muddle it around? The reason you get bogged down in semantics is because you use terms loosely - you’re essentially sabotaging your argument. Again. fucking weird.

I can agree that some do. I have also experienced plenty who do not in the age range and demographics you’re talking about. More of the latter than the former, if my memory is to be believed.

I work in an environment with plenty of women who, by your theory, should fall into the entitlement vein who do not come across as entitled in the interactions I have with them. They’re rather cordial and pleasant to work with. 20 to 30 something ivy league (in some cases) educated professional women (about 20% have some sort of professional or advanced degree). One of the most pleasant working experiences I’ve had was with a 31 year old MIT grad - super professional, humble and hard working .. foxy as fuck too (not really relevant but she also leaned conservative).

Again, I get there are women like those you describe out there. I just don’t think it’s as pervasive as you claim, at least in the environments I operate in. And you’re commitment to using words loosely does not add credibility to your observations or arguments. Just weird.

I’m hard on GB about this shit so I’m going to pick on you now @Basement_Gainz .. might be you’re cherry picking your observations and pursuing your own confirmation bias

@BrickHead The book, “Thinking, Fast and Slow” really opened my eyes to how arrogant I was and how much I do not know; I thought I knew more than I really did and it really helped me understand the limitations of my own self and put me on a path towards self-discovery. Not sure if you’ve read the book, but it seems like you did b/c this is a big point by Kahneman and Taversky.

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