Probably both at different stages. Even if he never touched a weight again he’ll still be the best!
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hmmmmm
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Seeing how difficult it was to raise my brother and I is one of the main reasons I don’t want kids
Hey man, I’m 27 and my hair is already as gray as it is blonde. A common joke at work. I’m around the same age as all my underling employees, but I’m “the boring one” and “focus on work too much” causing me to go gray apparently. Still a full head of gray bullshit though.
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At least you seem to have an understandable reason. I just cant stand the little fuckers. Lol.
I cant stand kids.
My step brother cant stand kids/cant maintain a relationship.
My step sister cant have kids.
And my father… my poor father.
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C’mon man, you have one story and apply this to all modern females? I really do understand that you can draw conclusions from life experiences, and I’m not telling you you can never use those experiences in arguments, but that’s a really specific story, and now ‘the modern female thinks a pb&j is some type of culinary accomplishment’. You don’t honestly think this just applies to everyone because of that anecdote, do you? The answer here is simple: don’t do something nice for someone if you expect shit in return, get upset if you don’t get something in return, or get something in return and don’t like what you got.
And as to the other article, millennials are worse off than their parents because boomers had a booming economy, cheap housing, fair wages, no student debt, and didn’t hit the job market around 2008 during the biggest financial recession since the Great Depression, nor did they have 18 years of continuous war.
P.S. Millennials are ~24-36, before we get into the whole "12 year olds with their heads buried in their phones are millennials. Most of us grew up listening to cassette players, remember a time before most people had any sort of personal computers, before the internet, before GPS, etc. Just had to throw that out there because ‘millennial’ has become the go-to for people trying to describe a lazy generation when we were just fucked over by the preceding ones and still managed to claw out a living when we work twice as much for half the pay to buy houses that are 4x as expensive and/or go to colleges that are 100x more expensive. Not saying you were saying that @greenboy, I just feel the need to throw it out there if we’re going to discuss generational trends, haha.
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While true, and I’m definitely part of the generation, I’d like to segway for a second and point out that a lot of our generation is guilty. Regarding the job market anyways. Just for a quick comparison to keep this short:
Working with my father in a job I was considered average, maybe just above average. My dad ran circles around me, and there were a couple of boomers that were slower than me at the job. However I was the youngest by an easy 15 years.
Working in 2 very different industries with peers in the same millennial age bracket, I’ve done extremely well for myself, seen raises, promotions, and get a lot of free roam at these jobs for my accountability. I am by no means patting myself on the back. I do take pride in my work, but I fuck up my fair share, I get lazy like anyone else, I’m late more than anyone else (I’ve also never called out across 4 jobs in 7 years, so well call that one even) but the bar is just set so damn low. I regularly get lost in thought and get stuck on mistakes I’ve made, and they just always get over shadowed by my peers and their objectively worse mistakes.
I just think it’s worth noting, our generation, while fucked by what came before it, is definitely lazy, and a lot of them would rather complain and play victim than put nuts to butts and earn what the feel like they’re owed.
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I think our generation just has lazy people like anyone else. I didn’t have that experience - my only experience in my trade has been outworking the fuck out of boomers and getting more money than them. Depends on where you’re at, I suppose, but most of the boomers I work with give 0 fucks because they’re already set for retirement, most of them could walk out tomorrow and do it. And they did the majority of it working regular hours, not having to work 3 jobs, etc.
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From personal experience, my generation is quite lazy too 
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BUT if you’re someone who says 'the job market is bad, I couldn’t get a job for X years" then you’re full of shit, you just didn’t feel like working, or you felt like you were too good to work doing something else. That shit is playing the victim, through and through.
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For sure on this one. I actually got a late start in the job market. I liked booze and free rent with my dad too much. (I worked shitty jobs on and off) Then I turned 20, dad kicked me out, and basically saved my life.
Started at McDonalds, ended up in a company with great health insurance, matching 401K, good pay, recession proof, and provided I dont fuck up and get fired, I’m set from here on out. Worked a lot of shitty jobs I didnt like between then, but I never took a pay cut and never settled.
What kills me is the settling. Trades generally provide well enough if you put in the work, but all of my friends have found a cushy spot making -okay- money in other job markets. I realize you have to put in your time in some companies, but if I dont see significant growth through the first 2 years, I’m out. I just wonder if these guys will be settling the same way when were 40.
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I’m not going to be viable on the job market for at least another 6-7 years and my parents literally gave me the Shanghai apartment. Should I be worried?
Haha, my trade has like no regulation for what to pay people, so I make ~60 (before OT), and there are a couple guys in my company and at our competitor making ~30, and they actually walked around complaining about it. YOU (perhaps metaphorically) SHOOK SOMEONES HAND WHO OFFERED YOU ~14 AN HOUR AS A GROWN MAN. You are worth what you believe you’re worth. I’m definitely with you on the growth, too. I don’t need to just be handed more money, I’ll work for it, I’ll learn as many new things as I can and bust my ass, but then I’ll expect to be compensated accordingly. And yes, if my boss ever hands me a PB&J after a 70 hour workweek, I might get a bit upset.
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The first time I visited a 3rd world country where kids sifted through discarded MRE bags, some of which we had shit in, to find food, it put some things in perspective for me.
So the word you’re looking for is ‘grateful’, and you don’t seem like the type to sit around and do nothing.
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Lol exactly. I had an employee back at the vape shop many years ago tell me “pay me what I’m worth, not what you can get away with” and its stuck with me ever since.
So that job, I capped out at $14 managing 8 stores.
Left for another job making the same thing at a shower door company, after 1 full year I got a raise of .25, left that job.
Next job was a driver for a plant nursery for 14.25, after 8 months I was promised 2 raises, and never saw them. May have said some… uncouth things towards the owner, for that along with some racist tenancies he carried.
Panicked and found my job now within a week, started at $12/hr through a temp agency, got hired on permanent at 15 in 2 weeks, worked a shit load of overtime and ended up salary in the ~45 range. Which for 2 years is a good start. So I’m going to return the favor and put in some grind time now.
Job loyalty doesnt mean shit if they dont show a little faith up front.
Forgive me, I don’t understand?
Are your parents helping you through college?
It’s one of many many stories that have shaped my viewpoint of the modern American female. But please don’t make me always preface with “maybe not everyone” or “on average”. For future reference let us always know I’m not speaking in absolutes.
Not saying you were saying that @greenboy, I just feel the need to throw it out there if we’re going to discuss generational trends, haha.
No worries believe me I throw shit like this in my moms face. Whenever she has stopped by and I’m cooking she says “oh you cook now” Yeah bitch I learnt to cook on YouTube no thanks to you.
BUT if you’re someone who says 'the job market is bad, I couldn’t get a job for X years " then you’re full of shit, you just didn’t feel like working, or you felt like you were too good to work doing something else. That shit is playing the victim, through and through.
Sure, but imagined being underemployed with people around you that have a measly high school diploma, making no money, while you have to pay back student loans like a majority of millennial of that time. Add in the female attitude towards males not making enough money… brutal time for a lot of bros. I know some that still have not healed.
But there are success stories. Frankly, one of the best is a buddy of mine where his wife left him because he was only making 30k after taxes and they just had a kid and the whole relationship was strained. He crawled his way up the later this fucker, now he’s well over 200k after bonuses. They divorced. She’s a cunt so it all worked out.
Yeah, Anna what ya doing that takes 6-7 years. Don’t get me wrong I know there are fields that require as such. Each accreditation I acquire takes me about 3 months or more to prepare for so I know how this shit goes.
I feel like I’m forever studying to the point where my mind melts and then people in here want me to present them research level type forum posts lol
I plan on going into academia, so… 6-7 years is quite optimistic
An alright question is why a guy would wait til 35 to find a wife?! This strategy has backfired on some, or maybe many. As said previously, my retired therapist spoke of 35-plus-year-old men crying in his office because they kept stalling with marriageable women who were then gone and they didn’t meet their matches thereafter. Which is understandable because the dating pool becomes smaller as time goes on for ordinary men.
Men don’t age like fine wine. And there is a male prime, mentally, physically and emotionally. Many men get increasingly strange, rigid, and neurotic when living single for a long time.
What is peculiar about men in the current day is heavy focus on their looks, which is why we see men freaking out about hair loss and partaking in hefty grooming, hefty tattooing, and gym-maxing. (I gym-maxed for much of my life obviously.)
I didn’t run into someone saying I was too old for their taste when I was meeting women in my late 20’s. I met my wife at 31. If I could write my life I would write it so that I met her specifically as a teenager or in my early 20s. She obviously accepted my receding hairline which is now more receding, and coupled with a balding crown (how terrible). 
Aside from this, there are some women aiming for the moon, and that aim includes youthfulness.
I actually had an old manager, 43, single, no kids. Cool guy. And absolutely the weirdest fucker I’ve ever met in my entire life.
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