Might as well. Can’t get a word in edgeways without this melt sticking his beak in.
All we need is a non-parent telling parents how to parent and this thread’ll be complete. Oh and stem cells.
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Can I just mention vaccines as well please? I feel it’s an important topic and as someone with zero medical qualifications or knowledge, my opinions are important.
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You vaccinate, wow…
/sarcasm in case Zep still reads the site.
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Did you just assume my vaccine status?
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How in the world would you know? 1st hand experience is clearly missing.
If you constantly get bored in relationships, the problem is you.
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Ever stopped to think that some people thrive in marriage and others don’t. Marriage is bad for some and great for others, with all shades of Gray on between.
If marriage isn’t your thing, great. Don’t marry. But realize you and your experience is unique to you.
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Oh my goodness. I’ve been keeping quiet because it seemed wisest, but reading up today I actually feel a little speechless. Luckily it passed.
Fact break: where relationships are celibate, more often the male partner is the one who shuts down. Has a couple of incidents of ED and then becomes avoidant. He can from there certainly blame the wife and look for a side piece, which will undoubtedly fail sexually after the new wears off, but there you go.
I believe I have material somewhere in my office offering stats that indicate that couples still having sex in their 50’s are having more sex than couples in their 30’s, which is due to kids, job pressure, etc. Married people in general have considerably more sex than singles.
End fact break.
More anecdotally, I’m going to guess that both @ouroboro_s and I have more sex than greenboy, as well as more enjoyable conversations with our partners and happier times watching TV or doing dishes or yard work.
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This is certainly accurate from my experience; kids are grown and immediate demands are fewer. I find I have much more disposable time than I did 20 years ago. This translates to more time for myself; learning and developing hobbies that are fun. In turn it makes me a better person to be around; more relaxed and accommodating.
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Broad questions like that have equally broad answers. A question along the same premise can also go like this: How many older women AND men accept the natural aging process, and continually accept each others minds and bodies as they continue into old age? How are they still putting forth effort into their marriage on intimate but also sexual levels?
Both men and women can do shut down after certain ages. There’s no doubt about that, but it’s not so black and white. Californiagrown stated that very well.
I’d like for you to understand that both instances can exist at the same time, and in all reality do exist at the same time. But you’ve chosen to shift your focus to the negative. That’s really all it is.
The answer is yes and no. Because there’s millions of us on this planet. Not to mention there’s a lot influence concerning cultural and societal stuff.
A lot of people become fatter and out of shape when they get older. Stuff wrinkles and sags, and whatever else. But it’s not like one partner is just defying the aging process and the other isn’t. They’re both old. They both relatively look old. In my head there’s nothing wrong with that. However that’s a topic that I can guarantee causes embarrassment and wards of the desire to continue to be sexually active in older ages. Theres this notion that we become less attractive as we age. For some that’s true, for others, it isnt. There’s plenty of instances of couples still happily married and sexually satisfied in their older ages. Just because you haven’t seen them or talked to them, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Edit: The last sentence was an assumption. So I apologize for assuming you think they don’t exist, but I will say that the amount of energy you put towards highlighting marriages or relationships that seem unfulfilling, take that same energy to seek out marriages and relationships that fulfilling, and continue to be so. And maybe try instead to focus on those types of things and apply it to yourself.
But Come to think of it, body image is a topic that also floods marriages in a negative way for a lot of couples. Add on kids, financial stuff, and working, and it’s not just one thing, but a mixture of various things, but you can definitely add body image as a heavy hitter.
But what does that matter to you? It shouldn’t. What should it matter to the potential someone that would be a good partner for you? Again, it shouldn’t. Doesn’t matter the numbers or the statistics. Do you want something fulfilling? That’s what should matter.
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Sexuality is a highly important element of life but is often and should be restrained to a degree if there is to be high-investment parenting and to avoid unwanted consequences: disease, broken homes, divorces, low-grade parenting or NO parenting, depleted finances, children who hate and sometimes completely disassociate from their parents, etc.
If someone puts sexuality, ever-increasing fun, and thrills above all, he or she should stay single. As my retired therapist said, “if you want fun, go to an amusement park!”
I believe many guys think, partly from viewing fantasy television, that being a manwhore is nothing but thrills and pleasure, with no bearing of bad consequences. Oftentimes it isn’t! You play, you (and your family) pay, and that’s how it’s gone for a few womanizers I know. I don’t speak of payments in money solely.
Besides, although there is a biological drive for sex, do we really want so much of our time and attention focused on it? The act of sex certainly doesn’t take long, but being cooped up meeting, attracting, and “hanging out” is extremely time consuming.
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Why is this your default viewpoint to everything you don’t agree with? It clearly always must be user error right? rather than what I observe in my day to day.
It is a rarity to find an older woman that is of stable mind and body, and not absolutely ripping their husband to pieces.
I have known men, currently talking to someone this week, that their wife is going absolute bat shit . I assume she’s hitting menopause, or at least that is what he thinks is happening even though she’s denying it.
This man is a fucking saint, so much so I’m shocked he doesn’t walk on water. And he deals with this unbalanced woman day in and day out.
Outside of alcoholics or drug addicts I have never seen a woman complain that her man is totally insane, or an emotional wreck but the reverse?? all the time.
So if you and @ouroboro_s are wickedly cool older women that still enjoy sex then bravo. Maybe it has something to do with staying fit and working out a lot and believe me I’ll take note of that.
And so the bait is set. What will the troll catch in his trap?
Note: Best read in a David Attenborough voice, but he was too expensive for my budget
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Please forgive my microaggression, bro.
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You mean why is what she observes in her day to day her response to you telling us what you observe in your day to day? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander my man…
Nah bruh, you just surround yourself with miserable people. Birds of a feather and all of that…Did you have stop to think maybe YOU have an extremely sheltered/myopic view of the world and you suffer (immensely) from availability bias? Nah, that couldn’t POSSIBLY be it. You possibly can’t be your own problem…sorry
Biblicly, we can tell (nttawwt - unless you’re Lot)
a guy … didn’t we talk about this? Also, supports my theory you suffer from:
a.) surrounding yourself with equally miserable cunts
b.) availability bias
get out of the world you know man…dip your toe into a different pool so to speak.
your word is pretty flimsy around here bud … hate to break to ya. Who you think of is a saint may not be so to others … so there’s also that - I know it’s difficult for your feeble mind to consider things outside of your present observation and they exist independent of you…but it’s true!! Google it.
There may be hope for you after all…call me an optimist.
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Yeah, I dunno. Am I that sheltered? Could it be? could it be that on multiple continents, across different languages and cultures , I am still presented with what seems to be a universal truth - that women are normally not very logical, function on the basis of emotion, and tend to default to miserableness when they do not continue to get what they want?
It is something I should think about.
Well said.
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that’s the crux my man. You’re not just presented with “a universal truth”. We’re all people from various backgrounds saying what you are seeing is not all there is. It may not even be as prevalent as you’ve presented it.
That’s all I’ve been trying to get across to you. That what you see is not all there is. Maybe we’re just speaking past each other…
Maybe I’m not as optimistic as I think - but I doubt you will…
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You ever meet a guy that says “Yeah, I smack that bitch back into place when she needs it.” or “Sure, she had aspirations and ambition. But I turned her ass into house cleaning baby maker!”.
Of course you haven’t. But they’re out there. And they’re the good guys. The ones that didn’t do anything to deserve what they get.
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I feel like you are watching me…