The question is not, do women (or men) broadly agree as to which 5% of the population is the most attractive (they probably do). The question is, are women (or men) able to assortively mate and accept the level of mate that their own level gives them access to? I think it’s true that people at the bottom are less able to drop their standards low enough to find someone in their own league. But we’re not talking about the bottom 95%. Lots of men who aren’t in the top 5% are able to find women that they find attractive that also find them attractive.
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Yes and no. I can’t give a real answer without making massive assumptions on both sides, but I think porn ‘breaks’ men’s standards such that they think women who are in their league, aren’t.
I also think women who go through their party phase end up becoming broken by sleeping with men whom they cannot retain and thusly pine after, even in marriage years later.
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It’s a reference to The Matrix.
Never saw it. I will say that maybe references to kids movies when talking about manhood is incongruous.
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You don’t have to like it, but it’s not a kids’ movie. While I agree that it’s important to manage time wisely and not waste it, storytelling and the cognitive ability to understand hypotheticals and the chain of events they lead to is fundamental to what makes us human. In order to plan and set goals, you have to be able to imagine and understand cause and effect. That is all that storytelling really is.
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Do you have a recommendation considering the amount of people who have problems with the truth?
The red pill as it relates to women came along because men in the 2000s increasingly had to deal with the nature of women, including anti-social tendencies, that was historically kept in check by social norms and institutions. It also marked an age in which exclusively-male spaces were becoming few and far between and bizarre ideologies and technology drastically changed sexual dynamics.
Do you think we should just use the word truth instead of red-pilled?
Seriously, the first Matrix movie was great. It blew everyone away when it came out and had a good spin on the hero’s arc. The sequels were trash.
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No, because both blue pill and red pill folks think they’re seeing the truth. Even the ones who self-identify as blue pill.
Not to mention the phenomena of a woman’s ‘truth’ being only what she feels in this moment. Even if that feeling is different than it was a week ago.
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Brutal.
I agree. I was simply curious what others who take issue suggest be used? Four years ago, some people would literally get angry with me for using it. Now, pretty much no one takes issue with use of it. Do you think that’s because this stuff has become even more obvious in just four years?
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There’s massive online content about it, mostly on YouTube. TY viewership is also about 90% men. I think it’s unavoidable; i stumbled into it by watching Joe Rogan of all things.
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50 percent of the population has that problem.
My people invented culture.
Is there a third pill?
Yes, the black pill.
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TBH, I don’t know. It seems like less than half of the women I know fit the red pill description of women. Most seem to be seeking or have found long term relationships. I could be living in a bubble or something too. Lots of my friend group are successful people, into fitness, etc..
I agree here. Learning that pretty privilege applies, and impacts everyone is an important lesson (probably the main takeaway from red pill). I think this would be fairly evident, but there are lots of things that condition men to think women are not impacted by it (stuff like rom coms, and Disney movies).
Women are capable of having a moral code and thinking about pros and cons of their actions. Like men, some are better than others at doing so.
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Black pill: doomers, men going their own way (aka just not chasing women).
Purple pill: Blue pill solutions to red pill problems.
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At what age? This is actually pretty important.
Agree, but women tend to react emotionally and backwards rationalize, whereas men tend to react logically.
I think women are categorically evasive of accountability for their actions, to the maximum extent possible, and both men and women allow them to get away with it.
Men tend to evade accountability too, but are rarely allowed to do so by other men.
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