I mean, the definition changes depending on where you are in life.
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Whatever is left when bills are paid.
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Wife put gas in the car this time!
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The Pharmacist knows my birthdate.
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I was thinking, if half of men wished they were dead, why aren’t half of men dead? It’s not like you need a genie to grant this wish.
Likely these are thoughts that come and go. And taking one’s own life isn’t easy.
What one call also see is that part of the empowerment narrative is the demand that others clean up some women’s excesses. Example: “I cannot make responsible sexual decisions; I cannot control myself. So, you are going to have to grant me a new ‘right’ to deal with this, which involves coughing up your taxes and making even more social adjustments for me.
It also involves passing the buck for women’s bodily functions and emotional blackmail. Example: “I took upon myself to have a child. Now I’m stuck caring for it. You must feel sorry for me and make even more social adjustments because I got pregnant as a result of having sex by my own volition. You must figure out a way for me not to deal with such inconvenience and sacrifice.”
Then there’s just simply being spoiled which is expressed through ever-increasing demands. If I recall correctly, in a podcast Anna @anna_5588 sent me, some women said that China is a leading nation in women’s industriousness and education. Instead of thanking Chinese society, particularly Chinese men, who made that so, they went on to talk about how Chinese society should make even more adjustments to suit them.
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I believe some of this can be attributed to many women out there thinking that there are only pros to being a man, and only cons to being a woman. That there aren’t pros and cons for each. I’ve talked to a few women who hold this belief. They say stuff like “I’ll never feel sorry for a straight man”. It seems that by that logic that someone that is suffering individually doesn’t matter as long as the group they belong to is perceived to be doing well.
When I’ve mentioned that I don’t necessarily think it’s all one sided as far as advantage goes, it typically isn’t met with an open mind (if talking with women). Mentioning stuff like family court, occupational death, death during wars, criminal prosecution and sentencing all being things men are at a disadvantage with seems to be brushed aside. Those things don’t matter to the women I’ve spoken too, because they pale in comparison to their plight.
I think objectively there are pros and cons for both women and men. But it seems that if you point that out, you are labeled a misogynist or a sexist by many. It is as if saying men have unique challenges that women don’t is equated to saying women don’t have challenges.
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It is funny to see how the tunes of even the most hardcore feminist changes when confronted with the brutal reality of the real world when society breaks down be it from a natural disaster, active shooter, saving someone in a dangerous situation, doing dangerous jobs, war, etc.
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I’ve discussed (in a friendly non argumentative way, more so asking questions about her position) these exact things with a woman who said exactly “I’ll never feel sorry for a straight man” (she may have had “white” in between straight and man). Those things were acknowledged a bit, but downplayed, and mostly dismissed. Because women have it far worse basically, and that I was whining.
I found the conversation to be enjoyable though. Mostly just to understand how I believe many people think. I found her positions to be vastly different than how I perceive things to be. At one point she made a claim that the dating scene was so much better for men. That men could go to an online dating site, or to the bar, and enjoy easy casual sex without judgement. While true for some men, it certainly doesn’t apply to the majority. I think many women don’t really understand how bad some men have it in the dating world. I don’t think they understand, because those men are mostly invisible to them (they are wall paper). I don’t want to come off as saying women have it easy dating, just that the challenges are different for them, and men have challenges too.
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Good, I don’t want anybody to feel sorry for me 
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Women in the west have an insanely easy and privileged life compared to most of the world.
I would liken this to how many men are financially successful to a large degree. It is the minority.
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Coincidentally this came up for Thinking Ape’s channel today, related to exactly what we talk about in this thread. @mnben87
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The women who say that use conditions 100 years ago, and much more, as their reference point. In today’s world, or at least the Western world, that view shows a total lack of awareness. 100 years ago men died building subways, bridges, canals, skyscrapers. Today, men still do those dangerous jobs. I don’t see women complaining they are underrepresented among lumberjacks.
Welfare was created for women, specifically white women. Men could get a job, or die.
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They or she is comparing their own insides to other peoples outsides. Not a rational comparison.
Whhen people do this with me irl I acknowledge their feelings without minimizing or pointing out their irrationality.
Something like “Damn, you must feel very put upon, etc…”.
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It is difficult to put myself in other people’s shoes, especially women, given that I am a man.
It is also tough to sort out reality and perception. The woman I mentioned above I know quite well. As an example of this, she was saying she didn’t get a promotion and felt it had to do with her boss being male and her being female. Is this true? Maybe, maybe not. At the same time, she only has a HS diploma, and with bonus makes nearly to 6 figures (in the Midwest), and is early 30s. If she is being held back by men, it seems it has only occurred at this recent promotion opportunity.
There are things like safety that are hard to quantify how much it impacts women. However, men are more likely to be assaulted while out in public. There is the fact that as a guy, I have a much higher chance of defending myself successfully. And also as a guy, I am probably not going to get sexually assaulted, which is something most women are worried about.
I watched. While some of the MGTOW stuff I believe is coping (you are not really going your own way if that’s your only option haha), there are valid points.
I try to limit my exposure to some of this stuff (not necessarily this video), because I do think it is often biased, and I don’t want to have a low opinion of women as a whole.
This gets back to it being tough to differentiate between perception and reality. I think when a negative event happens to someone that it is common to misplace the blame. Don’t get a promotion, “it’s because I am a woman”. IIRC, the human brain is pretty prone to do this, as it is generally favorable to maintain a positive view of ones self. Thinking that you didn’t get the promotion because of being a woman is better mentally than thinking it is because you just aren’t that great at your job.
Humans as a species don’t like to think of themselves as losers. An interesting thing I’ve noticed in common speech regarding sports, is “we won” or “they lost” both referring to the team they support. We lump ourselves to a group we don’t actually belong to when they win, and distance ourselves when they lose.
There was a really interesting experiment that a female lesbian journalist (Norah Vincent) went undercover as a man for 18 months. She had to make male friends, go on dates with women as a man, and just experience life as a man. It was really interesting and I recommend checking out the video.
She ultimately changed a lot of her opinions around the advantages she thought men have. She acknowledges that there are significant disadvantages to be a man, where before she mostly assumed that it was all pros and no cons.
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False, bigot we are the exact same. Equality, women are just as capable as men physically - duh.
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I think it’s deeper than that. I believe women, at least those who drive the anti male agenda, are either consciously or unconsciously aware that men are better equipped biologically to be more successful or perform better than women at most jobs. And it’s not just jobs that require certain physical abilities.
Men are more aggressive and driven. They are able to focus more intensively and for longer. They are more durable mentally and emotionally. They also are less prone to tunnel vision; they can don’t lose sight of the big picture while focusing on one part of the whole.
Since women cannot compete with men on a so called level playing field, these men haters vilify the traits that men have to a higher degree than women. They want to feminize males. That’s why boys are more likely to be on meds to deal with what are normal boy behaviors.
More women go to college than men yet, men dominate among majors such as physics, engineering and math. Women dominate in STEM majors like social science, biology and psychology. How do you get more women in engineering? Water down the requirements to get the degree while watering down males.
You’ll hear women say that women can do anything a man can do and do it just as well. They don’t say women are doing anything men can do and doing it just as well.
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Bro get a hobby lol.
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I went to a top STEM school, this is completely false based on the data from my school and those of similar calibre
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Worry about your brother, not me.
What’s false? You want more women in male dominated majors, how do you do it? Women can go to college. Women major in STEM in high numbers, but not in physics, math, engineering. There is a reason why women choose social sciences over physics, again they choose.
Why do they choose the easier fields? It’s either they just don’t find them appealing or they find them too difficult. Either way, to get more women into those fields you need to make it easier.
You might want to look at what you quoted in context because I never said anything was watered down. But it’s a fact that med schools, for example, are making it easier for certain demographics to get in. It’s a fact that public education is lowering standards in order to be more inclusive.
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