Half of Men Wish They Were Dead

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Me too.

I can’t stand a dumb woman. Long term - you spend most of your time talking.

I went on a few dates years ago with a smoking 11+ busty bombshell half white / half South American. She was super sweet and traditional - marked all my boxes.

She was just really REALLY dumb. I couldn’t do it. I would have offed myself dealing with that every day.

She just had her first kid and she is still a super sweet person. I see her around town every now and then.

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I have an ex that I see around a good bit, same deal. In fact, she was the one I learned this about myself from.

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Yes talking them out (maybe even with someone who has a different point of view) or writing them down can be of great use to our own thinking.

If you do start something up I’d be down to be on the other end.

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Something very similar happened to me. I went out a few times with this beautiful, blonde girl. She was very attractive, but she talked like a baby. A BABY!

The damnedest thing.
Weird pervert that I am, it gave me a boner. Maybe because of the “dumb pornstar” vibes I got from her unusual way of talking.

But the post sex was BRUTAL. I would have shot myself if I had a gun. Jesus Christ, wasn’t there a Seinfeld character like that?

Mine was also South American, but she was fully white.

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Either one of youse still have their phone #s? Asking for a friend.

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She couldn’t make a sandwich?

Don’t need no sammich -but if I can’t have a cigarette afterwards, forget I asked about those phone #s.

Considering i’m young (22) I will soon hold a degree. I took a gap year after school ended, covid shut down educational institutions for almost two years so I was only really able to start college at the age of 20.

Should be noted that I do have a number of medical conditions that are considered ‘disabling’ therefore I am not currently capable of studying say… 12+ hours per day in order to expedite the process of racking up degrees

The reason I noticed the potential for a connective tissue disorder being present is because she scores at least 5/9 on the beighton scale.

It’s more than flexible… I can also get my legs behind my head like that… I NEVER practice yoga. I can also bend my shit at wierd angles like she can.

Some people can acquire the sort of flexibility she has… the difference being you generally won’t notice hyperextension of major joints… so if someone is hyperflexible and they can bend knees, elbows etc past 90 degrees alongside other systemic manifestations of a connective tissue disease it makes me think ‘that person has a medical condition’.

I also adknowledge that she’s hawt. Don’t think I didn’t notice how attractive she is :laughing:

She doesn’t have a marfanoid phenotype, but it looks like she probably has what would be classified as a ‘hypermobility spectrum disorder’.

This is an uncategorised ‘spectrum’ that means “probable connective tissue disorder but you don’t meet criteria to be diagnosed with any subtype of ehlers danlos syndrome”.

I am a wierd dude, I have autism… I also know what my IQ is from testing back in high school…

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I love this movie.

She married now.

My experience with super pretty girls is the notion that they never had to develop other areas of their psyche to make themselves interesting. Of course I am generalizing here, and of course super pretty girls can also be smart (very much so)…but there is for sure an element of “well boys always loved me and I never got told no so I’ll just keep doing me”. The word airhead comes to mind. And with how most girls are being told they’re 10s and not to change for anyone or anything regardless of how intolerable they may be, the number of airheads has been on the rise for decades now. Men on the other hand are inundated with how much we need to improve.

Haha. I empathize with this so much. I ended up in a relationship that lasted maybe a year with a girl like this almost 10 years ago. “Weird pervert” is the best way to describe it. I felt so protective of her which made me feel so empowered. It eventually went tits up for a million different reasons but I’m grateful for the experience because it taught me all the things I don’t want. I should have walked when she first called her butt her “bot bot” though.:sweat_smile:

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I know some extremely beautiful and intelligent classmates who more or less played dumb.

One in particular comes to mind: She acted like an airhead and was known as a party girl. She also racked up 12 AP courses and got 5s on all the exams. Just graduated from UCLA with honours a couple weeks ago. idk where she’s going to work, but last I heard, she’s a CS major so I imagine she’s doing well

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There’s a good bit of stuff about women dumbing down because thats what is expected and its much more acceptable, similar to what @anna_5588 touched on earlier about some women being perceived as cold.

There was a ditzy and super hot girl in one of my college algebra classes. There was no hiding it there though- she was easily one of the smartest & sharpest in the class.

But outside of the classroom she was all bubble gum & puppies.

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I think a big reason I get a reputation for being scary wherever I go is that I don’t bother to “act sweet”

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Yeah, I see that too. There have been times I’ve met girls where I’ve known their circle of friends to be a bit “floaty”, and am then surprised to learn that she’s super switched on. It’s almost intrinsically embarrassing. I know we are often the company we keep, actions speak volumes and all that…but to pre-judge based on what someone shows the world can sometimes leave us ignorant.

Is it fitting in, or is it the “men are intimidated to be strong, smart, independent woman” message?

We men have situations where we dumb down too. One-on-one? Awesome. A group of 3? Cool. A group of 4? Hmm, okay. Anything more than that and I can barely put up with my own gender half the time.

You don’t do the sweet little curtsy as you giggle and look away when a big strong man says something clever?

Jeez. I’ve been wrong about you this whole time! :grinning:

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I think:

-Greater visibility (I think this is a mixed blessing when it comes to social issues), in the past, a lot of stuff to do with mental health wasn’t really on the conversational table (and when it was it was usually only in a negative way).
-Trying to live up to an impossible ideal/having unrealistic standards.
-Working in an environment which is basically totally unsupportive of anyone who has any emotional issues (pretyy much every guy who I know who works in the ‘trades’ say the same thing that: ‘At work you act like a cunt…or you get fucked!’.
-Problems of criteria: Example: Two guys have issues, however, one of them has a range of problems developmentally and emotionally but, in most cases does not meet the diagnostic criteria for getting help or having even what many practitioners (and even even moreso lay people) a real problem. Another guy meets the criteria for having a certain disorder etc…potentially gets help fairly quickly.
-The disparity in funding for physical health support/interventions is huge! Plus, I’ve come to think of the distinction between mental health and physical health as illusory (the brain is very much physical). A GP would almost certainly not be dismissive of someone with major chronic physical pain, but this does often does happen with emotional pain.
-Religion is far less common (and I think as much as I’m an atheist with plenty of issues with religiosity) what, effectively could be argued has/is replacing could be in some cases that even more negative (at least on an individual basis.
-We’ve basically gone from being blase about risk to hyper-vigilant about it.
-Certain groups of men are far less likely to reach out for help than others (near where I live their
are stacks of non-white men who rarely, in my experience engage with services to get support for any major emotional issues they are struggling with.
-A lot of support for mental health is still very much about masking symptoms vs addressing them head-on and preventing relapse.
-In the past of man of very low intelligence and other marketable skills would likely have been able to find work as a labourer, in the not too distant future this once large pool of employment opportunities is going to grow smaller and smaller…huge problem IMO.
-Many men, still only really meet up and talk about (difficult/troubling issues maybe) as an addition to doing some other activity, maybe or way more likely to meet up just to have a good chat, for many girls/women having a cathartic chat is far more the norm.
-Certain issues, such as loneliness or feeling in any way negative about lack of success with the opposite sex.

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My first wife, HS sweetheart, was soooo stupid. Srsly, she spent money on stupid things, had no common sense, but she was beautiful, curvy and she possess a beautiful set of double Ds. I had to divorce her, just for my sanity.

My current wife of 33 years, however, is super smart, bordering on genius level.

Which has a whole set of other issues to deal with.

Are we far from the whole “Stepford Wives” idea?

I think I could get into that.

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Utopia? Men would no longer wish they were dead??

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