Half of Men Wish They Were Dead

I am Jewish as you likely know. What about us do you think white people should take note of? I am not PC at all, so I do not get offended by what is critical or complimenting of us. I’m open to what you have to say. I believe what you might say is actually antithetical to what perhaps many here or White Americans think is fair or good. I’m not a stereotypical Jewish man and I married a white woman, but I’m well aware. I’m just curious what you have to say on the matter.

Is this fear silly considering what you said, especially when something as serious as child raising is involved. It seems to me you think low of this fear, when actually women who earn significantly more money or get promoted to high positions, like CEO, become resentful and disrespectful of their husbands, and in some cases leave.

This is to be taken lightly?

It apparently works for you.

Some also reasonably believe the mixing of classes is generally a bad idea, and I agree with this. I am talking about practical shit here, not, “Bro, if ya just spew game, make her feel good, screw her right, and smile, she’s yours.” Much of that butterflies-in-muh-tummy feelings mean Jack shit after awhile, and do nothing for… oh, like, all the serious stuff that goes with marriage and adult life:

education and training or children
paying bills
maintenance of a home
chores
dealing with in-laws
taking care of aging parents

They’re hard and complicated enough. So why would some guy well aware of his financial standing and background sign on for other complication? Is he being sensible or “scared”?

We also should factor in what a prospects background is. Do you think a loaded family of high social status is going to pair well with a man and his family of meager means? Likely no. “Just be confident and give it to her good!” doesn’t apply here.

Got a way to ameliorate this?

I thought he was talking about Christians.

I think it’s bad bc it limits women’s career prospects

A related issue is non promotable tasks (e.g., taking notes, getting coffee, onboarding new employees)
These tasks are extremely important but don’t benefit the person doing them. Studies show that women are disproportionately assigned or pressured into doing these (up to a months worth of work each year). When they refuse, they’re seen as cold.
Why should women do these tasks? Why can’t these be assigned based on drawing names out of a bag or something like that?

Regarding personal relationships, I agree with you. Most of my friends are male, but with the exception of 2, all are more like business partners or brothers than “real” friends. We supply each other with resources, help on assignments and joke about writing papers/becoming colleagues. I wouldn’t consider getting into a romantic partnership with any of them either. I would be a shitty girlfriend and an even worse wife. They reciprocate, since all of them have girlfriends
My female friends are more of what most ppl would consider actual friendships.

The posts are getting mixed up on my screen but

Yes, draw names out of a hat (or some other form of random name drawing). For some tadks like taking notes for team meetings, rotate through members such that everyone does it a roughly equal amount.
That’s what my department and the econ department of the nearby uni (where the researcher who pioneered studying this works) does

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I’m curious. In what country do you you work and go to school?

The US

Trust me, it’s 10x worse in China

I should add here that marriage was originally about family and political alliances, accrual of resources, and raising children, and that’s actually my outlook, which I think is mostly why my marriage will last as long as I wish it to: until death. I personally don’t look at it as some goofy game of husband-wife competition and I don’t think some guy is being fearful if he wants it to not go wrong.

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This is the only version of marriage that really makes sense to me on a deeper level than “this is how society works I guess”

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I think marriage also makes sense in terms of paternal certainty in exchange for commitment of resources.

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@anna_5588 If you want to look at marriage in the most cynical terms possible, it can be viewed as a partnership that serves to maximize your personal gain. Incorporating children into this strategic partnership can often have the byproduct of altering your priorities in such a way that you end up with increasing levels of personal gain. The icing on this cake made out of personal greed is that you will have someone to inherit the wealth you built, rather than being childless and leaving it to some phoney-baloney charity or your next-of-kin.

Just my opinion!

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I am a hat

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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@BrickHead

White people can quit being outlandishly racist, that’s for starters. They should take note of that, on god, yuh.

Hahaha :rofl:

(Not sarcastic)

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I wasn’t being sarcastic either!

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Had dinner with my behavioural science friend last night and we were talking about some recent scandals. He said some rather disturbing things that happen in Chinese econ departments/between phd students

It’s an appropriate way of looking at it.

Though I have gone over this in a pragmatic way, I’m all for partying one’s ass off on date nights or with family, vacations, sex, and so on. I just think that the practical basis has to be there, at least for me.

It’s not uncommon for husband and wife to have tumultuous times, maybe even wonder to themselves, “Is this going to last?” There are quarrels over serious matters. If that pragmatic outlook is not there, a marriage might be doomed.

Of course. That’s also one of the reasons why women were once “owned” a long time ago.

Speaking of god, why in god’s name are you so frequently bringing up white racism and criticizing white people, sometimes out of nowhere? This board might be majority white. If you have such qualms with whites collectively, why are you communicating with them?