I know. I’m also not a red-piller, though I don’t deny some of what they have realized and say, and consider the “RP community” destructive.
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That’s legit. You must have great social skills. The way you were talking, I half suspected you would come back and say you are 6 foot and make 80k or something. As in, not freakishly tall or rich, but still in the top 5% of men in the US.
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I think it is a product of both sexes being fed that they don’t need each other and are the exact same in all things.
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I’m really surprised that after the boffing teens thing, I agree with just about everything @Grool has said.
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I think this is a fairly common position. The woke line is that men are “intimidated” by smart or successful women. But the reality is often just that there is a mismatch in what is valued. It’s like trying to sell a family heirloom and expecting to get extra because it is so important to your family. It doesn’t make any difference to the buyer.
If a woman finds out that an average looking man has a highly successful career, that probably adds 3-4 points out of 10. So a guy that looks like a 5 might be an 8 or 9 as a long term relationship prospect if he is also a doctor, lawyer, executive, etc. If a woman looks like a 5, she might generously be a 6 when you find out that she is also one of those things.
But she is judging the world through her own view and thinks that her career gives her 3-4 points and thinks she is an 8 or 9. So the 5s and 6s that might actually want a relationship with her are invisible to her and the 8s or 9s that she thinks she deserves don’t take her seriously. So she claims they are “intimidated.”
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I actually used to hear that when I was looking for women back in the aughts and I had no idea what the heck they were talking about. I wouldn’t be affected in any way even if there were to be a woman making millions seated across the table from me. It’s indifference and like you said, recognizing bad fits. Maybe it would have worked with a woman out-earned me (one I had a regrettable fling with earned around $200k at the time and she was a few years older and seeking to ever-increasing sums of money) but I didn’t think that was a risk for divorce to take on. Neither of us were appropriate for each other.
It’s some bs Hollywood cliche. I know plenty of men who admit they’re lucky their wives are smarter than they are otherwise their households would have gone to shit.
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It is a tough pill to swallow. For someone to put a lot of their time and resources into something to find out it doesn’t matter much to the opposite sex (assuming finding a desirable partner is important to the person).
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Men are definitely intimidated. Its a peculiar western mindset. Tell an Iraqi a woman out earns him hes like sister can I have your fathers number to arrange nikkah? As I said previously My mother was earning lots of money as a Model and my Dad was a labourer. She said men would get insecure when they found out she out earned them by a large margin. She said my Dad said great you can buy the house lol. This was the 70s though so times have changed a bit I suppose.
Honestly i think im below average socially, but i excel at 1 on 1 conversation, im very funny, dry sarcastic sense of humour and im self depricating but not a pushover. I also had an extremely kind mother who drilled that sense of kindness for others into me as a boy. So most of the pussy I got as a kid was from being nice and making girls laugh. Put me in a group im a complete social retard lol.
Redpill says true things and for they they deserve to be acknowledged for sure. But they use those real points to smuggle in a bunch of ideological misogyny, Its similar to feminists having valid points but smuggling total nonsense into their ideological narrative.
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Haha no because hes based. Hes basically the kinda guy you could transport back to chill with the founding fathers and they would love him.
This is actually kinda my point though, in many ways the west is extreme but we impose that on other societies. Not allowing women to work until about 60 years ago was extreme, now we are going the opposite way and villifying men. Europe and its extensions in the new world fly from one extreme to another. We have much to learn from Our Jewish, Muslim and Sikh brothers and sisters regarding finding a balance. That is my opinion anyway. Similarly we were extreme racists now our society is self hating and white guilt ridden. Its always one extreme to another. Because we abandoned a belief in absolute objective morality. Secularism has left us untethered.
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No you are definitely right, but I am talking conservative types as thats what I am, not libs.
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In my neck of the woods it seems like successful men have found ways to Get Paid while working less. Like by being entrepreneurs.
And women who earn a lot do it by joining organizations, stressing out and working way more.
Men are less risk adverse on average. Being an entrepreneur is risky, but potentially very rewarding.
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Where is this coming from? Because this is the exact opposite of what I have seen.
My wife made more and had more money than me when we met.
That didn’t even factor into the equation of my attraction for her one way or the other.
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That isn’t intimidated though. It’s indifference. I don’t know what nikkah means, but if I understand the context you are saying that an Iraqi man would be more interested after finding out a woman is making more money.
All I’m suggesting is that being indifferent to a woman being rich or successful is not being intimidated. It might just be indifference.
I think they are intimidated because they feel she will leave as she has more options and freedom to bail. Ive seen this with good friends. Its not even a bad thing, necessarily. And its mostly a fear of being seen as less manly by other men. So maybe intimidated is a bad choice of words but it captures the fear aspect.
Men fear their women leaving. This is natural. And a woman who out earns you can leave easier than a stay at home mother. Again not all men who prefer a woman to earn less have this motivation, and I don’t intend to get all Jungian, but I think there is a subconscious fear at the root of this for many.
Once we as people stop caring what others think, it really makes us see how insecure we were about so many things. Years locked in a tiny room really changed how I saw myself, when I examined myself honestly I realised I was totally captivated by a fear and need to not be humiliated. I looked back on the women I hurt and the people I abandoned and I realised it was my own fear and insecurity that drove me to that point.
In western culture, it’s often a situation of what is his is shared and what is hers is hers. If a woman seems genuine and willing to share and use her money to contribute, I think that it can be seen as more of a benefit. But a lot of women who have money to share aren’t interested in actually sharing it. And when that is the case, the right approach is just to ignore it.
Moreover, if a woman is spending a ton of time with her job (ie. trading her time for money), that naturally means she has less time to contribute to the relationship. And when the money that she traded her time for also isn’t contributed to the relationship, it ends up that she isn’t bringing much to the table. If a woman doesn’t make much money but does a great job taking care of the house and kids, she is actually contributing a lot.
No. They fear them leaving with half their shit.
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