Disagree. I think any hard limit is dumb.
There are acceptable answer’s to that question IMO.
I agree with you that body count is something that matters (and I think most men agree depending on the number, which as @doogie pointed out there is a difference between 5 and 150). Just took issue with the particular number which didn’t seem high, especially for someone my age.
I think perhaps part of the reason women have a tough time understanding why it matters is because it isn’t one of the things that is seen as them receiving in the transaction of a relationship. The transaction is that they give men access to sex with them in a relationship, and get commitment from men. Those are the main items transacted.
Most people don’t like to find out that something they purchased for full price was on sale for half off the week before. I would expect a woman to be upset upon hearing the man she is in a relationship with offered rings (commitment) to many different women before meeting her. Maybe she has waited years for the ring, and finds out that this guy offered the ring to 10 women after dating each for several months. That I think is similar to what many men feel like when they get sex while in a relationship with a woman with a particularly high body count.
Why context matters. Maybe the woman with a body count of 5 was all serious relationships. She wasn’t giving it out at a low cost. There isn’t evidence she will give it out at a low cost or for free behind your back.
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I’m not trying to set an argument up here and I think you know that’s not my style. Any conversation between us will not be inflammatory. I’m simply curious. How old are you?
As I said previously, I believe there is a huge disconnect between the Gen C and Boomer experiences and what has gone on since the late 90’s for late Gen X, Millenials, and Gen Z.
I suppose I’ll be the contrarian in this thread.
A mere half of men wishing they were dead is a sign of tremendous progress. This is especially good news considering all of the men alive today who aren’t dead from war, famine, lack of sanitation or some other disaster that we now easily mitigate. Nobody got around to asking all of those men if they wished they were dead before they died.
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I’ve changed my mind. I think 500 is a more reasonable limit. A new man in her bed every night, sometimes two or more at the same time.
In reality, 5 is an arbitrary number. 5 at the age of 14 years old is pretty unacceptable whereas 5 at 30 is pretty understandable. The truth of the matter is, with every sexual partner a woman has, the more her ability to pair bond with future partners diminishes.
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How is this being measured?
I’m 50
My point is that it is a type of woman who has slept with 500 men. If you would be interested in that type of woman if her body count was 3, that’s on you. The body count shouldn’t be any kind of deciding factor. If she is what you are looking for, it doesn’t matter.
But the number of sex partners is a reflection of who someone is.
Like, just exactly what kind of life does a person live to accrue 500 partners?
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And you should be able to figure out who the person is/what kind of person they are without knowing a number.
Edit: If she lies and tells you the number is 3 when it is really 33, you would probably never know.
She’s Andrew Tate.
Ditto. Easy to identify but hard to overcome, at least for me anyway.
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Have you seen how the average American dresses? They look homeless. They don’t own one suit and always wear sneakers.
I don’t really care what a person wears (especially in Florida where it’s way to hot to wear most “dressy” things), but for love of god, if one keeps facial hair - take care of it. Nothing worse than a facial hairstyle that holds crumbs from last week’s Taco Tuesday
But you’re not judging them from the perspective of a woman. Besides that, there is something to be said about presenting a professional, adult appearance in situations where you want to be taken seriously. Americans are just too casual, not only in appearance but behavior.
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Most men lead lives of quiet desperation.
@BrickHead @zecarlo
What are your thoughts on the decline of Christianity in the western world to this discussion? I believe from a Catholic point of view anyway, it forces you to be introspective. So not only did we lose the community, but we lost the state of mind that we must look inward before blaming others.
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I think we’re talking past each other.
I’m talking about men holding themself accountable for their own actions, not some online people telling them.
The best conclusions are usually the one a person reaches themself.
Not pointing fingers at women, social systems, big nebulous things.
At themself. Singularly and solely holding their own feet to the fire.
“Women this, blahblah ..”
It’s fucking bullshit.
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I don’t think it’s exclusive to Christianity. It’s a weakening of spirituality and religious ethic/belief across the board. More and more people have nothing to hold onto except the fact one day they will be worm food (at least in the Western world, many cultures view death way differently than we do). This in turn leads to a disregard of consequences for behavior and “Keeping up with the Jonses” (I think this comparison/envy game is very prevalent in the US).
And with the state of abundance present in the US, many people in the millennial generation (maybe even gen x and boomers) and younger have never really experienced a true hardship that makes them think deeply.
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It’s teenage girl behavior.
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I don’t think it’s that deep, it’s just the whole yolo thing and instant social media validation of one’s existence. People think they are the center of the universe. If that universe is their phone.