Well I really appreciate your advise dynamo. You know more about this subject than I do so i’ll take whatever advise you want to give me.
I have pubertal gyno and this thread is the most helpful thing I have ever come across in my long search for help.
How does one find a legit supplier of Letrozole & Nolva? I’m new to this stuff so I wouldnt know how to tell if I got bogus stuff 
Im new here so idk the rules very well. If asking this is against the rules let me know.
This is a no sourcing board. That said you can google Letrozole and tamoxifen citrate along with research chemical and you will find several sites that sell these products.
Thanks. Do you have any tips to avoid rip-offs?
Once you find one, google the name for good and bad references…
Thanks, I really appreciate it.
How are Letro and Nolva taken? With food? With fat? empty stomach? pre-bed?
[quote]BloodScream wrote:
How are Letro and Nolva taken? With food? With fat? empty stomach? pre-bed?[/quote]
Doesn’t matter
Possibly an interacting with grapefruit juice. I don’t know for sure but I guess it wouldn’t hurt to avoid it.
Just want to clarify something, if there is 2.5 mg in a ml of this stuff, then 0.1ml is equal to 0.25mg right?
[quote]Matt155 wrote:
Just want to clarify something, if there is 2.5 mg in a ml of this stuff, then 0.1ml is equal to 0.25mg right?
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That’s right.
thanks for all your posts fellas, but i do have a question. at this time last year i was at 265lbs, and now im at 205lbs. growing up as a kid i was always fat, and always had a larger breasts. i still sort of have them now, but not too bad… anyway, how can you really tell if its gyno, or if its just fat tissue left over from my old chubby days that hasnt gotten toned yet? i know symptoms included sensitive nipples and secretion, and i dont experience those. so how can i tell the diff?
Right - gynocomastia is the growth and enlargement of breat tissue in men. Breast tissue consists of excess fat and more importantly mammory glands.
Feel the area for hard, glandular lumps beneath the nipple. If you have them, you have gynocomastia that will require surgery - IF you choose to remove it.
(For what its worth, i have small gyno lumps from high aromatizing androgen levels, as do a large proportion of Bodybuilders and AAS users - they are no problem for me at the size they are).
There is also the issue of increased fat deposits in the area, which is also caused by excess estrogen levels. This is common in larger (read: fatter) men, simply as the more fat one has means a higher ability to convert Testosterone into Estrogen.
The fat deposits (known as ‘feminine’ fat deposits or words to that nature) are going to be the LAST thing to go on a diet, and the first to return when fat is gained.
The best way to get rid of this fat is to have the cells removed - liposuction, followed by a lifetime of decent eating and muscle building (which will help to improve the ratio of androgen receptors to estrogen receptors).
Of course, surgery is not an option for everyone - and by eating correctly, and utilising regular and consistant resistance training to build some more metabolic tissue, one will be able to get rid of the ‘fat-paps’ and keep them off… however they are likely to come back if you stop training/eating well or when you get to a certain age - 40, 50, 60… depending.
Summarfy. Lose weight, build muscle and repeat for a healthy lifestyle overhaul. Your body reflects exactly what is put in it, and what it is asked to do physically. If you put in crap and ask little, it will perform to that level.
(Hint: Fat doesnt ‘tone’)
Best,
JJ
Hi Guys im new to this forum, but have been lurking for quite some time, I have read through this sticky and a few other posts i cant find my answer,there seems to be some clever people on here so i though id try my luck,ok
For just other one year i have had a small hard lump that is slighlty painfull underneath my right nipple, When i first found this i went to the drs who then referred my to the “breast clinic” as they thought it could be male breast cancer lol.
anyway they done all tests and they all was fine, they said to me the lump would cause no harm but at that time they wouldnt remove it, but if after 6months it was they will,
well fast foward one year it hasnt gone, but this is where i need some help.
Last monday i started HGH 4iu a day, plus t3,clen and deca & test only small amount deca was 200mg a week and test 250mg. i have only had 7 shots of HGH,and ONE shot of deca/test, but now(tuesday) my lump feels so sore, but to be honest i have been touching it every 5mins so i think i could have made this abit worse, also i have only just noticed my right chest is “slightly” swollen at the SIDE of the pec NOT the nipple. I forgot to add ive been running 20mg Nolvadex since the beginning.
So is this swollen/pain JUST a coiecnadence(sp?) or does anyone no if its true that HGH can cause gyno lumps tp grow if youve got them already?
Also i understand Deca gyno cant be cured from nolva etc, but ive only had 1 200mg shot? I have use deca about 3 years ago for 10 weeks with ZERO problems?
sorry for the long post i just wanted to explain as much as i can
Dean
Using an AI like Adex or Letro on cycle should be more effective than Nolva. Save Nolva for PCT. I don’t know about the HGH.
[quote]dean36 wrote:
Hi Guys im new to this forum, but have been lurking for quite some time, I have read through this sticky and a few other posts i cant find my answer,there seems to be some clever people on here so i though id try my luck,ok
For just other one year i have had a small hard lump that is slighlty painfull underneath my right nipple, When i first found this i went to the drs who then referred my to the “breast clinic” as they thought it could be male breast cancer lol.
anyway they done all tests and they all was fine, they said to me the lump would cause no harm but at that time they wouldnt remove it, but if after 6months it was they will,
well fast foward one year it hasnt gone, but this is where i need some help.
Last monday i started HGH 4iu a day, plus t3,clen and deca & test only small amount deca was 200mg a week and test 250mg. i have only had 7 shots of HGH,and ONE shot of deca/test, but now(tuesday) my lump feels so sore, but to be honest i have been touching it every 5mins so i think i could have made this abit worse, also i have only just noticed my right chest is “slightly” swollen at the SIDE of the pec NOT the nipple. I forgot to add ive been running 20mg Nolvadex since the beginning.
So is this swollen/pain JUST a coiecnadence(sp?) or does anyone no if its true that HGH can cause gyno lumps tp grow if youve got them already?
Also i understand Deca gyno cant be cured from nolva etc, but ive only had 1 200mg shot? I have use deca about 3 years ago for 10 weeks with ZERO problems?
sorry for the long post i just wanted to explain as much as i can
Dean[/quote]
OK… to start with the issue was Gynocomastia - breast growth in Men.
It is caused by high Estrogen levels - Estrogen is absolutely vital for breast growth - while the other female hormones can make this growth faster or more ‘effective’ estrogen is needed.
You have just injected what you call ‘small’ amounts of hormones - one which is based on feminine (Estren) hormones (Nandrolone), and one that is based on Masculine (Androstan) hormones (Testosterone).
You think that 250mg of Test is small, but this is at least 2.5x the natural level for a man - and you are sensitive to estrogen conversion even with your natural levels - how did you think this wouldn’t cause issue?
The 2.5x natural level Test’rone is converting to Estrogen in the body (in a futile attempt to retain hormonal balance), and considering you grow breasts from just 1x natural levels, 2.5x is particularly problematic.
You also injected Nandrolone, again ‘only’ 200mg… but this is a very effective dose still. Anyway, Nandrolone is a Progestin, and has activity at the progesterone receptor similar in action to progesterone - this makes the effects of Estrogen much more potent, for lack of a better word. So it will exacerbate any gyno caused by the extra Estrogen in the body.
As Dynamo Hum suggested, you need to get an Aromatase Inhibitor - Aromatase is the enzyme that converts Testosterone to Estrogen. If this is inhibited, it cant do that - simply put.
Brook
thanks guys ( both of you) for the fast replys.
So i can get hold of Arimidex tommorow so how much do you guys suggest i take? would i ditch the Nolva for now and continuie with Amrimdex??
Also does anyone think the HGH is making things worse?
I know this lump is NOT going to go, but i just want it to calm down, So what should i do,?
- just carry on and add Arimidex? the doses of deca & test are NOT going to change the plan was to keep them at 200mg deca and 250test a week
- drop the deca,and add A.I
- drop the HGH but add AI
- drop everything and just run AI on it own to get it under control
thank guys really helpfull
-Dean
I would say to up the Nolva to 40mg/d until you get the Adex, then to front load 1mg of Adex upon reception and use 0.5mg/d for 3 days or so and then go to 0.25/d and adjust as required (watching out for too low estrogen or too high estrogen). Stop the Nolva when you start the Adex.
I don’t see the HGH as being a problem but see how doing the above works. If your gyno dies down, no reason why you can’t continue as planned with all compounds.
thanks mate, All i can get right now is 25mg Aromasin are these ok, I was told there better than Adex?
-Dean
Yes, Aromasin is fine. I am not up on the dosing however (25mg/d?)
thanks Dynamo, youve been a great help 
i will start today with 25mg/d , So you think with this i can still run HGH,deca & test and be ok?
What should i expect from aromasin? ie: i know the lump wont go,but should it calm down in regards to pain and swelling,
thanks
-Deano