[quote]Matt155 wrote:
yeahh I totally understand now! I gotta order it still, and im almost done pct so it’s gonna be solo.
I might even buy another bottle of nolva just incase then but we’ll see.
Also, its liquid letro, it says 1ML = 2.5Mg (i think)
This is gonna be hard to dose… Do you guys have any tips?[/quote]
Go to any local pharmacy.
CVS, Wallgreens, etc.
Buy an oral syringe, it will be a couple bucks at most.
Make sure to get one that is marked in 10ths of a militer.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Let me rephrase. I fully agree with Westclock that Nolva is great for use in PCT following an AAS cycle and certain pro hormone cycles. When I said “I don’t believe it is good practice to use a SERM (like Nolva) off cycle”. I meant I don’t believe it is good practice to use a SERM (like Nolva) other than for PCT.
Matt are you done with your PCT or not? If yes, then run Letro solo; if no, then by all means run both together.
I meant the letro cycle actually.
Running letro at a high dose and not tapering down properly will cause estrogen rebound.
Running a few mg of nolva when coming off as insurance is cheap and effective fire insurance.
And as I stated, nolva blocks estrogen from activating the breast receptors as well, so it can do nothing but help.[/quote]
I can see that with high dose letro. I was talking about low dose (either continual or eventually gradually tapering off).
If I start at 0.3ml and go on it for a while, then it starts to go away how should I taper off of that?
Go from 0.3mg/d to 0.2mg/d for a week, then 0.1mg/d for another week; then off…
If you feel good at a particular dose however, you can ciontinue use indefinitely to maintain healthy low-normal estrogen and maximise Free testosterone.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Go from 0.3ml/d to 0.2ml/d for a week, then 0.1ml/d for another week; then off…
If you feel good at a particular dose however, you can ciontinue use indefinitely to maintain healthy low-normal estrogen and maximise Free testosterone.[/quote]
Alright!
But wait… Do you mean 0.3ml? or 0.3mg?
Sorry, my bad. I corrected my prior post using ml instead of mg.
Here is a quote made today from Bill Roberts that may help you with dosing:
“On maintaining cuts and vascularity but without being really “on cycle” and still maintaining your natural testosterone production, you could use letrozole to keep estradiol levels low normal. I think a good starting point is about 0.36 mg/day. A liquid product makes such fractional dosing easy. For example, with the product I use, which is at 2.5 mg/mL, that is 8 drops from the particular dropper that is provided. Ideally you’d test estrogen levels after a few weeks. A salivary test from ZRT is inexpensive.”
Alright thanks for the help. I’m gonna order it today hopefully and get it within a couple weeks.
K if i 0.3mg/d to 0.2mg/d for a week, then 0.1mg/d for another week; then go off… On the first day am i suppose to triple the does or something?
And can you guys tell me how much in mls 0.3mg would be? If it is 2.5mg/ml
Well, 0.1mL would be 0.25mg.
k, but on the 1st day how much do i take, i heard i was suppose to triple it
Hey guys, i’m new here and need some input from everyone. Here’s my situation.
I’m in Afghanistan right now and have about 7 weeks til I go home. I decided to take a quick 7 week cycle before I go home.
I’m taking 100mg of Deca a week and 750mg of sus a week.
About 2 years ago I did a small cycle of dbol and something else while I was in Iraq. I developed gyno after that. My nipples have lactated and everything. I have some letro and nolva waiting for me when I get home. My question is, am I doing this right with what resorces I have? Will it be ok if I do this cycle, go home and immediately take the letro then the nolva?
And how long after I take my last shot should I wait to take the letro? I’ve heard that I need to wait about 3 weeks cause the test levels will still be to high for the the letro to work?
You will need an AI like Adex or Letro while on cycle (especially with your existing gyno). Best not to start until you have an AI on hand.
well i’m doing this really dumb. i haven’t had the nolva shipped out here because it takes entirely too long for mail to get to me. and i’ve already started the cycle.
How long into it are you?
on going on my 3rd week
Any signs of gyno worsening?
I haven’t noticed anything as of yet. I’ve been watching it closely and it seems to be maintaining it’s same size and tenderness that it’s had for the past two years.
Even so, I would stop if I had no AI on hand. You may end up with a much worse case of gyno than before. It will take several weeks once you stop the sustanon before your serum level of testosterone drops adequately to stop the worsening of gyno. Even then, you could have an estrogen rebound. You are treading in dangerous waters…
I’ll stop the cycle then. Should I start taking the letro right when I get home in this case?
And thank you for the advice bro.
It sounds like you have about another month before you are home and have access to an AI (Adex, Letro) and SERM (Nolva).
If you stop the sust now, your test level will drop slowly from the suplemented level you are at now to normal and probably below normal before you recover fully. The timing should be about right to do a SERM PCT when you get back. You could do Nolvadex for several weeks (2 - 4) until you feel fully recovered (libido, morale, etc.) Dose at 20mg/d.
I am not the most knowledgeable in this area, but this makes sense to me. Others may chime in.