Gym Stupidity

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
side bends w/ a dumbell, skinny fat chicks and guys do it all the time, it’s the exercise that looks like heavy effort w/out much effort.

Why anyone would want to add mass to the oblique is beyond me! That’s exactly what it will do, build up the oblique. E.g. old school look like Sandow himself.

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Yet somehow I have never seen a woman suffering the described harm to the figure from it.

While the concept that it is “slimming” is stupid, also it is not the case that it will give women a Sandow-like look or any waist bulkiness at all.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
cyruseven75 wrote:
side bends w/ a dumbell, skinny fat chicks and guys do it all the time, it’s the exercise that looks like heavy effort w/out much effort.

Why anyone would want to add mass to the oblique is beyond me! That’s exactly what it will do, build up the oblique. E.g. old school look like Sandow himself.

Yet somehow I have never seen a woman suffering the described harm to the figure from it.

While the concept that it is “slimming” is stupid, also it is not the case that it will give women a Sandow-like look or any waist bulkiness at all.

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It’s also actually a pretty decent accessory move when doing WSB or WS4SB etc…

i need to clarify, in my rant i didnt mention that this patron didnt have a spotter and had one leg on the bench one leg straight out.

I wasnt de-faming the false grip or suicide grip but i think that the name speaks for itsel, yes it has its place and, yes each to there own, just dont be suprised when that day comes when the bar decides to plummit south towards your chest or throat.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
cyruseven75 wrote:
side bends w/ a dumbell, skinny fat chicks and guys do it all the time, it’s the exercise that looks like heavy effort w/out much effort.

Why anyone would want to add mass to the oblique is beyond me! That’s exactly what it will do, build up the oblique. E.g. old school look like Sandow himself.

Yet somehow I have never seen a woman suffering the described harm to the figure from it.

While the concept that it is “slimming” is stupid, also it is not the case that it will give women a Sandow-like look or any waist bulkiness at all.

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Isn’t the amount of hypertrophy possible by the abdominals quite small?

The obliques are claimed by some (not saying I disagree, but simply trying to be accurate as opposed to saying “claimed by all” or “in fact”) have relatively little potential for hypertrophy even in men.

In women fairly clearly no great hypertrophy occurs.

I expect that the only women that might have visually damaging obliques probably by nature have truck-driver bull-dyke physiques in other regards as well. Certainly the typical woman need not fear it.

I work out at our college gym, so I could easily post 20 things a day that I see in the gym that are laughable. I would say that as little as 5% of college age lifters operate under proper form.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ll throw good form out the window sometimes to cheat and try to shock myself every once in awhile, but thats about it.

college gyms are the worst… just a few off the top of my head.

  1. some jackass was using a leg press machine and proceded to load about 5 45 lb plates on one side before he went to load the other side. It completely tipped over.

  2. you should see the hip thrust that some of these fellas use when curling. the explosiveness would be great for o-lifting haha.

  3. there is one guy i see all the time. he goes around to every machine in the gym and does about 15 reps with honestly less than 1/4 r.o.m. i cant decide which is more funny- seeing him at the seated curl machine(i dont know hwy anyone uses this anyway), or seeing him on the leg press.

many many many more but i dont feel like listing them all

ps. yesterday i overheard somebody tell his friend that he was going to bulk for a week and then cut

[quote]jeremy8986 wrote:
college gyms are the worst… just a few off the top of my head.

  1. some jackass was using a leg press machine and proceded to load about 5 45 lb plates on one side before he went to load the other side. It completely tipped over.

  2. you should see the hip thrust that some of these fellas use when curling. the explosiveness would be great for o-lifting haha.

  3. there is one guy i see all the time. he goes around to every machine in the gym and does about 15 reps with honestly less than 1/4 r.o.m. i cant decide which is more funny- seeing him at the seated curl machine(i dont know hwy anyone uses this anyway), or seeing him on the leg press.

many many many more but i dont feel like listing them all

ps. yesterday i overheard somebody tell his friend that he was going to bulk for a week and then cut[/quote]

Yup college gyms are shocking for observing the retarded gym-goer in his natural environment.
Can’t say that I agree with your feelings on the leg curl machine though, but anywho.

At my high school gym my friends keep on telling me that doing ATG squats are bad for your knees…the funny thing is that they are the ones with knee pain not me lol.

sorry i didnt clarify, i meant the seated bicep curl machine, i really dont see why anyone uses this machine

[quote]jeremy8986 wrote:
sorry i didnt clarify, i meant the seated bicep curl machine, i really dont see why anyone uses this machine[/quote]

Agreed.

Some guy came up to me today who looks like he lifts regularly and said “You look like you know what you are doing, would you come spot me on a squats?” I said yes.

When we got to the squat rack, I asked him whether he wanted me to spot him from under his arms or from his waist. He said, just watch my form and let me know if I’m doing it right. So I did. He did seven or eight reps in what I consider perfect form, went parallel, all that. I told him that it looked great and then left. I thought it was kind of strange, but then it got even stranger. I notice him asking someone else to do the same thing (this time, it was one of the personal training staff). Later, I noticed he asked the same personal trainer to “spot” his form yet again. Then, to top it all off, about 30 minutes later, he comes back to me (I guess because the personal trainer guy was busy) and asked me to “spot” him again. This time, I knew he just wanted me to watch his form. Again, it looked perfect and I told him so. He asked if his knees extended past his toes. I told him I couldn’t be sure from where I was standing, but because his form was perfect, I couldn’t see how that would have been possible.

I still can’t make heads or tails of this experience. He was squatting with 225 lbs, but was going all the way down, slow controlled, with, as I said, perfect form. Do you think they guy was just obsessive/compulsive about form? Weird.

[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
Some guy came up to me today who looks like he lifts regularly and said “You look like you know what you are doing, would you come spot me on a squats?” I said yes.

When we got to the squat rack, I asked him whether he wanted me to spot him from under his arms or from his waist. He said, just watch my form and let me know if I’m doing it right. So I did. He did seven or eight reps in what I consider perfect form, went parallel, all that. I told him that it looked great and then left. I thought it was kind of strange, but then it got even stranger. I notice him asking someone else to do the same thing (this time, it was one of the personal training staff). Later, I noticed he asked the same personal trainer to “spot” his form yet again. Then, to top it all off, about 30 minutes later, he comes back to me (I guess because the personal trainer guy was busy) and asked me to “spot” him again. This time, I knew he just wanted me to watch his form. Again, it looked perfect and I told him so. He asked if his knees extended past his toes. I told him I couldn’t be sure from where I was standing, but because his form was perfect, I couldn’t see how that would have been possible.

I still can’t make heads or tails of this experience. He was squatting with 225 lbs, but was going all the way down, slow controlled, with, as I said, perfect form. Do you think they guy was just obsessive/compulsive about form? Weird.[/quote]

Call me crazy, but did you try just asking him?

There are any number of reasons why some guy would be very concerned if his form was staying perfect.

[quote]mr popular wrote:

[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
Some guy came up to me today who looks like he lifts regularly and said “You look like you know what you are doing, would you come spot me on a squats?” I said yes.

When we got to the squat rack, I asked him whether he wanted me to spot him from under his arms or from his waist. He said, just watch my form and let me know if I’m doing it right. So I did. He did seven or eight reps in what I consider perfect form, went parallel, all that. I told him that it looked great and then left. I thought it was kind of strange, but then it got even stranger.

I notice him asking someone else to do the same thing (this time, it was one of the personal training staff). Later, I noticed he asked the same personal trainer to “spot” his form yet again. Then, to top it all off, about 30 minutes later, he comes back to me (I guess because the personal trainer guy was busy) and asked me to “spot” him again. This time, I knew he just wanted me to watch his form.

Again, it looked perfect and I told him so. He asked if his knees extended past his toes. I told him I couldn’t be sure from where I was standing, but because his form was perfect, I couldn’t see how that would have been possible.

I still can’t make heads or tails of this experience. He was squatting with 225 lbs, but was going all the way down, slow controlled, with, as I said, perfect form. Do you think they guy was just obsessive/compulsive about form? Weird.[/quote]

Call me crazy, but did you try just asking him?

There are any number of reasons why some guy would be very concerned if his form was staying perfect.[/quote]

I didn’t ask him, but if I had, I probably would have come off condescending and I didn’t want to offend the guy. Of course, if I see him doing this again, I will ask, even if I do come off as an ass.

I have asked numerous time for a squat form check from other. Didnt come off as weird (IMO) but I dont know if they probably tought it was weird. I dont care anyway

[quote]rock27 wrote:

[quote]jeremy8986 wrote:
sorry i didnt clarify, i meant the seated bicep curl machine, i really dont see why anyone uses this machine[/quote]

Agreed. [/quote]

Your both idiots.

[quote]davidcox1 wrote:

[quote]mr popular wrote:

[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
Some guy came up to me today who looks like he lifts regularly and said “You look like you know what you are doing, would you come spot me on a squats?” I said yes.

When we got to the squat rack, I asked him whether he wanted me to spot him from under his arms or from his waist. He said, just watch my form and let me know if I’m doing it right. So I did. He did seven or eight reps in what I consider perfect form, went parallel, all that. I told him that it looked great and then left. I thought it was kind of strange, but then it got even stranger.

I notice him asking someone else to do the same thing (this time, it was one of the personal training staff). Later, I noticed he asked the same personal trainer to “spot” his form yet again. Then, to top it all off, about 30 minutes later, he comes back to me (I guess because the personal trainer guy was busy) and asked me to “spot” him again. This time, I knew he just wanted me to watch his form.

Again, it looked perfect and I told him so. He asked if his knees extended past his toes. I told him I couldn’t be sure from where I was standing, but because his form was perfect, I couldn’t see how that would have been possible.

I still can’t make heads or tails of this experience. He was squatting with 225 lbs, but was going all the way down, slow controlled, with, as I said, perfect form. Do you think they guy was just obsessive/compulsive about form? Weird.[/quote]

Call me crazy, but did you try just asking him?

There are any number of reasons why some guy would be very concerned if his form was staying perfect.[/quote]

I didn’t ask him, but if I had, I probably would have come off condescending and I didn’t want to offend the guy. Of course, if I see him doing this again, I will ask, even if I do come off as an ass.[/quote]

Y’know what I just thought…maybe that guy was so cluless he thought “spot” meant like spot as in to see something…like I spotted a cute girl or something, so he thinks spot means only to get someone to watch you on your lifts. Maybe.

Here’s a link to a bunch of videos of guys here in Taiwan finding ways to lift poorly:
http://blog.islaformosa.com/2009/12/how-not-to-work-out-series.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Islaformosa+(IslaFormosa)&utm_content=FaceBook

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
I have asked numerous time for a squat form check from other. Didnt come off as weird (IMO) but I dont know if they probably tought it was weird. I dont care anyway[/quote]

Right, but that doesn’t explain why he had someone check him on every set. Now that I’ve had more time to think about it, I think they guy was just obsessing about his knees going past his toes. I’ll ask him next time I see him.

One funny thing I noticed with these threads about stupid stuff at the gym is that the second post will be: " Not this shit again!! Didin’t you search and find the Squat Rack Curls thread?!!?!?"

We then post our anecdotes anyway.
I agree with it, we’re not curing cancer here so what the hell.

[quote]Nards wrote:
One funny thing I noticed with these threads about stupid stuff at the gym is that the second post will be: " Not this shit again!! Didin’t you search and find the Squat Rack Curls thread?!!?!?"

We then post our anecdotes anyway.
I agree with it, we’re not curing cancer here so what the hell.[/quote]

Yes, I see that all the time too. If someone posts an intial, newbie-type question without first having checked to see if we have already answered it someone on the forums, then that person should be reminded of a better way to get what they are looking for.

But if a conversation (thread) is ongoing, and someone calls another poster for repeating something that has been posted before, what’s the big deal? We’re in the middle of a conversation. In the real world, we wouldn’t call a foul on someone doing the same thing in a verbal conversation, so why do so here? Seems odd behavior to me, but it exists throughout forum-dom on web.