I think some people are missing the point. Its not to act like a badass outside (or inside the gym). Its the fact that there are assholes around like those with the beef against the OP.
Now I’m not saying just turn around and smakc the bitch, but just shrug that shit of and go bout your business. At least then you look like a) you dont give a shit and b) you’re not intimidated. They’re less likely to start trouble that way.
Or fold ur male escort in the trunk.
(Gonna get me a Plymouth Baracuda)
[quote]Norwell Bob wrote:
REAL men shoot bullets out of their cock.
Look it up.[/quote]
Chuck Norris does.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
In order to keep this on topic, relying on your extensive training and experience, explain to all of us why deadly force is justified in this situation, citing specific facts provided by the original poster and applying California law.
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Not justified as the OP wrote it, but using his scenario, if both guys started to beat him down he would have at least two things to justify deadly force. 1. There are two of them beating on him, 2. He had just finished working out and was most likely exhausted and unable to defend himself. Wouldn’t justify a pre-emptive strike though.
[quote]BigSwede wrote:
BUT ridiculing him, calling him a bitch and a pussy, because he didn’t do what you real men would do, that truly are the characteristics of little bad ass boys.
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I’m with you on that point.
[quote]kane101nod wrote:
This was the most intelligent post in the entire thread. I do not even know where to start, I stand completely disgusted by many of the responses.
Although each and every situation is different, to respond with, or even worse, initiate violence over something as trivial and non-life threatening as a ‘bench’ is beyond my comprehension. Choosing violence jeopardizes your life, your freedom (jail), and your financial wellbeing, let alone demonstrating a total lack of self-control, intelligence, and respect.
Yes internet badasses, there indeed are times for force to be used as an option, such as true scenarios of self-defense or defense of a loved one/person in dire need; this is not one of those times, and if you somehow interpret the event as a valid ‘violence opportunity,’ God help you if you do ever intend to leave ‘the internets’ and venture into reality.[/quote]
Grow up. That post may’ve been the funniest, but it was far from the most intelligent. I agree many of us are acting like internet badasses, but it’s because it’s not some gang driveby like mazilla’s describing. It’s flat out intimidation, and it worked.
Acting badass is part of the solution. You and other posters like you are romanticizing the situation as bad or worse than most of the others on the board. We’re not talking about a self-defense situation here. No one jumped out of an alley, put a gun in the OP’s face and threatened to kill him. As I said before, the OP’s life wasn’t in danger, if you’re going to ‘stalk’ someone to shoot/stab them, you don’t have to call your friend to do it. You don’t do it at your local gym where everybody knows you and your name, phone number, and adress are at the front desk.
Further, if you do ‘call your friend’ and the ‘prey’ manages to duck back into the gym, you’re even stupider than if you had just stabbed/shot him. If the ‘punks’ were intent on beating him, he wouldn’t have been able to seek out his male escort.
I’ve been both the intimidator and the intimidated. This wasn’t the gang shootout that mazilla is escalating it too but, nor is it something that ‘duck and cover’ tactics will help. You make a very good point about the PWO drink though.
[quote]lucasa wrote:
Grow up. That post may’ve been the funniest, but it was far from the most intelligent. I agree many of us are acting like internet badasses, but it’s because it’s not some gang driveby like mazilla’s describing. It’s flat out intimidation, and it worked.
Acting badass is part of the solution. You and other posters like you are romanticizing the situation as bad or worse than most of the others on the board. We’re not talking about a self-defense situation here. No one jumped out of an alley, put a gun in the OP’s face and threatened to kill him. As I said before, the OP’s life wasn’t in danger, if you’re going to ‘stalk’ someone to shoot/stab them, you don’t have to call your friend to do it. You don’t do it at your local gym where everybody knows you and your name, phone number, and adress are at the front desk.
Further, if you do ‘call your friend’ and the ‘prey’ manages to duck back into the gym, you’re even stupider than if you had just stabbed/shot him. If the ‘punks’ were intent on beating him, he wouldn’t have been able to seek out his male escort.
I’ve been both the intimidator and the intimidated. This wasn’t the gang shootout that mazilla is escalating it too but, nor is it something that ‘duck and cover’ tactics will help. You make a very good point about the PWO drink though.
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Agreed. I guess the OP had better change his workout schedule and be prepared to get walked out to the car from now on to avoid a confrontation…all so he doesn’t come across as a “badass”.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?
A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.
I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.
Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud.
LOL. The assumption is that was a bitch move. the assumption is also that he was thinking the exact same thing. The assumption also happens to be that most guys, regardless of how “smart” it may be, would have kept walking to their car prepared to deal with things as they may should they be taken to that level even if the goal was to avoid a confrontation overall.
I don’t know where you grew up and that really isn’t significant. I do know, however, that had I told my friends this same story and mentioned I went back into the gym when I saw two guys, I would be banned from any further outings. I know, that isn’t what you wanted to hear, but sadly, it is the truth. That would be like painting a huge target on your back if you lived in Houston. You might as well expect another hit or a driveby.
Wow, what a ghetto Doctor. Tell me, are all your doctor friends this simple? Or are you the only doctor in the group and you like slumming with thugs?
You always came off to me as a simple ego centric narcissist. The way you belittle this man is just stupid. He unlike you, has no ego and nothing to prove.
I’m sure Mr big X would have handled it like ghost rider or one of your other comic book heroes you so desperately love and imitate on your little motorcycle.
Fool.
Your post was retarded. Anyone who has been in the gym for years has experienced someone take their bench or machine before. I have even experienced some attitude from newbies especially and it never escelates past the initial reaction. Most people would have the knowledge and wisdom to have avoided this situation even getting to this point in the first place. However, I can tell you one thing I would not do is run and duck back into the gym and get a male escort if two guys were standing outside. I would have gone on about my business and walked to my damn car. If someone wants to take it to another level, they can do so. It will be their initial move and I will do everything I can to finish it standing. That is what I’m about and if that makes me a “fool”, so be it.
We have lost something the moment anyone tells a grown man he was right to duck back inside the gym because two people were standing outside looking at him. That is fucking stupid. That makes me “ghetto”? How blatantly racist an retarded. It makes me a grown man who isn’t afraid to defend myself if someone else takes it to that level. I don’t go looking for fights. I also don’t make myself even more of a target by acting the way the OP did in front of a place I will be going back to again and again. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself and show what you are made of. Him walking to his damn car and ignoring these fools would have done that if what he intially wrote was true. You need to look at yourself and find out what your own problem is if that sounds “ghetto” to you. Who is the fool again?[/quote]
Yes, you;re a big man with lots and lots of wisdom. You’re a strong man and even if you saw what’s up you’d still walk. You think this makes you strong? How many poeple get stabbed? How many people get shot? How many people get followed home? All for stupid shit like this.
I can clearly see you’re incapable or unwilling to think several steps ahead of what’s going to or may happen as a result of the choices you make.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
derek wrote:
Now THAT is genius!
Carry a male escort inside a Ford Escort.
I tried stealing falcon inside a Ford Falcon but that stupid bird never walked me to me car…EVER!
You need a Ford Taurus.
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You need a trunk monkey:
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.[/quote]
LOL!! I found myself being very careful today as I crossed the parking lot after my workout. Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
LOL!! I found myself being very careful today as I crossed the parking lot after my workout. Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
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Don’t you realize how dangerous that was!!! She should have walked you out…and she should have been a guy!! You just wanted to be a badass, didn’t you? Don’t you know how many people get shot and stabbed without male escorts?!!
Hey, mazilla, why don’t you move to a real state? One that lets anyone just carry a firearm on their hip? (see Arizona) Then, you’d not need all the special bullshit you seem to need to carry a firearm. And legal? Shmegal. Who needs to be legal? You could find a gun pretty easy, without all the red tape. And then you could walk around, downtown, all badass with your gun in plain view. Ooohhh, scary! Puhleez. When you brought up Watts and Compton, all I could think was: I’m sure Reginald Denny was “man up.”
Now I se why this is three stars. You guys are too tough for the internet. cue “I’m too sexy” music
Real life: You walk to your car, and they swing at you from behind. You go down; others see fracas. They get caught, go to jail. Unless you die from the impact your head receives from the pavement (Yes, I have seen this exact thing), you win in the knowledge they go to jail. See, is there anything worth going to jail, besides saving the life of a family member? Apparently, you fuckers haven’t seen the inside of a jail (I’m talking County)… It ain’t right in there.
Any sane person (visit Maurice Clarett) would do anything in his power to not end up in jail. Period. The likelyhood of anyone going to jail for a fight today is near 100%. Losers revenge.
[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:
Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
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Why didn’t you ask her to walk you? Could have been a great start to a Penthouse letter.
“Dear Penthouse… I had this little young filly walk me to my car, for I was afraid of getting beat up… and then she took my throbbing member in her hand and said… the slurping sounds coming from my car scared off any would be assailants…” Is “assailants” too big a word for Penthouse?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
LOL!! I found myself being very careful today as I crossed the parking lot after my workout. Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
Don’t you realize how dangerous that was!!! She should have walked you out…and she should have been a guy!! You just wanted to be a badass, didn’t you? Don’t you know how many people get shot and stabbed without male escorts?!! [/quote]
Well, I didn’t exactly give you the whole story. This young lady is really, really, like, cute and everything and I kinda thought that maybe she would think I was bad ass if she saw me walking across the parking lot alone and willing to challenge any GPLP’s that might cross my path. I had also asked her to dial 911 and press send if she thought I was in danger.
Now, not only does she know I a parking lot bad ass, I have something to talk to her about and I’m sure she’ll spread the word around the gym that I can handle the parking lot alone. I’ve never really felt so, well,
manly. It was really, really, kewl and all.
[quote]Go-Rilla wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
LOL!! I found myself being very careful today as I crossed the parking lot after my workout. Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
Don’t you realize how dangerous that was!!! She should have walked you out…and she should have been a guy!! You just wanted to be a badass, didn’t you? Don’t you know how many people get shot and stabbed without male escorts?!!
Well, I didn’t exactly give you the whole story. This young lady is really, really, like, cute and everything and I kinda thought that maybe she would think I was bad ass if she saw me walking across the parking lot alone and willing to challenge any GPLP’s that might cross my path. I had also asked her to dial 911 and press send if she thought I was in danger.
Now, not only does she know I a parking lot bad ass, I have something to talk to her about and I’m sure she’ll spread the word around the gym that I can handle the parking lot alone. I’ve never really felt so, well,
manly. It was really, really, kewl and all.
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Next time, have her press 9, 1 and wait for your signal. You take far too many risks.
[quote]kroby wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
Why didn’t you ask her to walk you? Could have been a great start to a Penthouse letter.
“Dear Penthouse… I had this little young filly walk me to my car, for I was afraid of getting beat up… and then she took my throbbing member in her hand and said… the slurping sounds coming from my car scared off any would be assailants…” Is “assailants” too big a word for Penthouse?[/quote]
You have a good point. I may have stumbled on to something. This could be the ultimate way to impress the ladies. I could locate the hottest check out girl at the grocery store and tell her that I intend to head out into to parking lot alone, unprotected and ask her to “watch my back”. I just feel that asking her to actually walk me to my car might be a little forward since, well, I might actually see a GPLP. (see this could be used for Gym or Grocery) I’ve also had my eye on the girls that work in Starbucks. And everyone knows how dangerous a Starbucks can be.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Go-Rilla wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
LOL!! I found myself being very careful today as I crossed the parking lot after my workout. Luckily I didn’t see any GPLP’s. It could have been a close one though so I asked the young lady behind the desk to watch until I got to my car.
Don’t you realize how dangerous that was!!! She should have walked you out…and she should have been a guy!! You just wanted to be a badass, didn’t you? Don’t you know how many people get shot and stabbed without male escorts?!!
Well, I didn’t exactly give you the whole story. This young lady is really, really, like, cute and everything and I kinda thought that maybe she would think I was bad ass if she saw me walking across the parking lot alone and willing to challenge any GPLP’s that might cross my path. I had also asked her to dial 911 and press send if she thought I was in danger.
Now, not only does she know I a parking lot bad ass, I have something to talk to her about and I’m sure she’ll spread the word around the gym that I can handle the parking lot alone. I’ve never really felt so, well,
manly. It was really, really, kewl and all.
Next time, have her press 9, 1 and wait for your signal. You take far too many risks.[/quote]
Being the PLBA (parking lot bad ass) that I am I guess it’s to be expected. But you are correct, I seem to be living on the edge more and more. I guess I’m just tired of being a PLP (parking lot pussy) and am ready to move to the next level whatever it takes.
Never had that problem. The guy was a jackass but you showed weakness.
I usually give them the forceful “that’s me” when someone gets on some equipement I am still using. Then I defuse a possible tense situation by saying “but you can work in if you want” depending on their reaction. They hardly ever want to work in. If they do, and try to grab a lighter weight or move my set-up, I will tell him if they want to train with me to better come correct.
I ran into this one guy who did not back down and we trained like maniacs that day to outdo one another, he is a bud of mine now.
Other than that. I ignore people when I lift and pretend I dont hear them unless they ask for a spot. Headphones are ideal for that.
If you see the guy again just ignore him. If he starts shit, crack em over the head with a 45, just make sure no one sees you so you can say he threw the first punch when the cops come knocking.
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You saw it here first, ladies and gentlemen!
If you don’t make a habit of running and hiding from stupid punk kids outside a gym and actually have the balls to print that fact, you are now officially a member of the INTERNET BADASS CLUB or I.B.C.!
Get real.
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
If you see the guy again just ignore him. If he starts shit, crack em over the head with a 45, just make sure no one sees you so you can say he threw the first punch when the cops come knocking.
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Reminds me of Commando when Arnie and the other guy are on the plane. Arnie leans forward to fix his blanket then jumps back sharply and elbows the guy in the face; proceeded by a neck snap. Puts the guys hat over his face and tells the stewardess “not to disturb my friend; he’s dead tired”.
Could do the same at the gym - but somehow use a squat rack.
[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Never had that problem. The guy was a jackass but you showed weakness.
I usually give them the forceful “that’s me” when someone gets on some equipement I am still using. Then I defuse a possible tense situation by saying “but you can work in if you want” depending on their reaction. They hardly ever want to work in. If they do, and try to grab a lighter weight or move my set-up, I will tell him if they want to train with me to better come correct.
I ran into this one guy who did not back down and we trained like maniacs that day to outdo one another, he is a bud of mine now.
Other than that. I ignore people when I lift and pretend I dont hear them unless they ask for a spot. Headphones are ideal for that.
If you see the guy again just ignore him. If he starts shit, crack em over the head with a 45, just make sure no one sees you so you can say he threw the first punch when the cops come knocking.
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Well, obviously you don’t watch enough Lifetime Television for Women.