Wanting to correct a mistake in my previous post pertaining to firearms carry…
You guys are right about what you said in your response to my post. I was just replying and agreeing to the part I quoted. Not about the earlier posts on the subject of Concealed Carry. Average gun owners do NOT talk this way on the internet. My bad.
And I appologize for hijacking again.
[quote]allNatural wrote:
(yeah I’m a bitch cuz I don’t want to fight 2 on 1). [/quote]
You’re not and I hope you really dont feel that way. If they were already planning an ambush, who knows if weapons would have suddenly appeared.
Egos are fragile and get easily bruised. Dont let it bother you.
Hopefully you’ve learned a few things from this. You need to know that at some point in time you will probably have a similar experience or worse and should be prepared to respond. In reality it makes little difference how bad anyone is on the internet or even in everyday life. There always has been and always will be someone bigger and tougher out there. Don’t go through life worrying about it, but don’t fall into the habit of always taking the path of least resistance either. You may not always be able to go back into the gym for help.
Get pissed with “X” if you want to but he does have a point about crazy people in the world we live in. As you get older and assume responsibility for others, wife, girlfriend, children,
you may find that instinct needs to take over.
Until then you may want to consider keeping a baseball bat in your backseat. LOL
[quote]Doc M wrote:
I carry a Glock on my hip almost anytime I’m out in public. I don’t carry it for intimidation, only for last resort self defense… That said, people tend to give me space. I guess they figure I’m either a cop or just someone not to be screwed with.[/quote]
Or maybe just a dipshit who feels the need to walk around the fucking mall with a piece like he’s an extra on Deadwood
Or the “someone not to be screwed with” thing. Either one.
[quote]Doc M wrote:
I carry a Glock on my hip almost anytime I’m out in public. I don’t carry it for intimidation, only for last resort self defense… That said, people tend to give me space. I guess they figure I’m either a cop or just someone not to be screwed with.
Or maybe just a dipshit who feels the need to walk around the fucking mall with a piece like he’s an extra on Deadwood[/quote]
Yeah, I know the feeling. I always walk around wrapped in explosives.
I do get funny looks, but I get my space.
I think people respect me because of it.
REAL men shoot bullets out of their cock.
Look it up.
Fight those assholes. EVERYBODY knows they only attack one at a time, like in kung fu movies.
you did the right thing man. fighting is stupid. this guy sounds like he has some issues and probably has alot less to lose than you.
i dont buy “having a bad day”. I’ve had bad days, i dont try to beat someone up.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Or maybe just a dipshit who feels the need to walk around the fucking mall with a piece like he’s an extra on Deadwood
Or the “someone not to be screwed with” thing. Either one.[/quote]
I just prefer to have it on hand should I need it. I tried the whole “hello police, I’m being mugged and threatened with a gun, can you help me? Oh, it will be 10 minutes? Ok, I’ll ask them to wait.” It didn’t work out so well for me. Got myself mugged by 6 guys, all for $100 in my wallet. People where I live have been shot for less. I’m lucky to still be here.
Wlaking around with a chip on your shoulder looking to kick the collective asses of all those who look at you funny is not the answer and also not what X or me or anyone else is suggesting. That being said, there IS a place for taking immediate action when a threat arises.
There are times when running will get you killed (or jumped or beaten) faster than turning the table on “stalkers” or those that are trying to feel you out.
If you wait, walk away, duck into the gym or any other defensive move while being sized up, you may very well pay the consequences because you give your opponent(s) even more incentive to attack you. The trick is to avoid looking like an easy target. Self-defense 101.
And why the fuck is it so hard to give a strong opinion here without another poster making you out to be a hardass talking tough? Maybe, just maybe, there are those of us that WOULD go on the offensive when faced with being outnumbered and not ruin and hide. Is it possible?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?
A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.
I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.
Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud.
LOL. The assumption is that was a bitch move. the assumption is also that he was thinking the exact same thing. The assumption also happens to be that most guys, regardless of how “smart” it may be, would have kept walking to their car prepared to deal with things as they may should they be taken to that level even if the goal was to avoid a confrontation overall.
I don’t know where you grew up and that really isn’t significant. I do know, however, that had I told my friends this same story and mentioned I went back into the gym when I saw two guys, I would be banned from any further outings. I know, that isn’t what you wanted to hear, but sadly, it is the truth. That would be like painting a huge target on your back if you lived in Houston. You might as well expect another hit or a driveby.[/quote]
Wow, what a ghetto Doctor. Tell me, are all your doctor friends this simple? Or are you the only doctor in the group and you like slumming with thugs?
You always came off to me as a simple ego centric narcissist. The way you belittle this man is just stupid. He unlike you, has no ego and nothing to prove.
I’m sure Mr big X would have handled it like ghost rider or one of your other comic book heroes you so desperately love and imitate on your little motorcycle.
Fool.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?
A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.
I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.
Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud.
LOL. The assumption is that was a bitch move. the assumption is also that he was thinking the exact same thing. The assumption also happens to be that most guys, regardless of how “smart” it may be, would have kept walking to their car prepared to deal with things as they may should they be taken to that level even if the goal was to avoid a confrontation overall.
I don’t know where you grew up and that really isn’t significant. I do know, however, that had I told my friends this same story and mentioned I went back into the gym when I saw two guys, I would be banned from any further outings. I know, that isn’t what you wanted to hear, but sadly, it is the truth. That would be like painting a huge target on your back if you lived in Houston. You might as well expect another hit or a driveby.
Wow, what a ghetto Doctor. Tell me, are all your doctor friends this simple? Or are you the only doctor in the group and you like slumming with thugs?
You always came off to me as a simple ego centric narcissist. The way you belittle this man is just stupid. He unlike you, has no ego and nothing to prove.
I’m sure Mr big X would have handled it like ghost rider or one of your other comic book heroes you so desperately love and imitate on your little motorcycle.
Fool.[/quote]
Your post was retarded. Anyone who has been in the gym for years has experienced someone take their bench or machine before. I have even experienced some attitude from newbies especially and it never escelates past the initial reaction. Most people would have the knowledge and wisdom to have avoided this situation even getting to this point in the first place. However, I can tell you one thing I would not do is run and duck back into the gym and get a male escort if two guys were standing outside. I would have gone on about my business and walked to my damn car. If someone wants to take it to another level, they can do so. It will be their initial move and I will do everything I can to finish it standing. That is what I’m about and if that makes me a “fool”, so be it.
We have lost something the moment anyone tells a grown man he was right to duck back inside the gym because two people were standing outside looking at him. That is fucking stupid. That makes me “ghetto”? How blatantly racist an retarded. It makes me a grown man who isn’t afraid to defend myself if someone else takes it to that level. I don’t go looking for fights. I also don’t make myself even more of a target by acting the way the OP did in front of a place I will be going back to again and again. Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself and show what you are made of. Him walking to his damn car and ignoring these fools would have done that if what he intially wrote was true. You need to look at yourself and find out what your own problem is if that sounds “ghetto” to you. Who is the fool again?
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.[/quote]
But the real question is, do you have a male escort?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
But the real question is, do you have a male escort?[/quote]
Ford Escort. The AK barely fits in the front seat.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
I wear a bulletproof vest and carry 3 loaded pistols and keep a loaded AK47 on my front seat to protect myself from gym parking lot punks.
But the real question is, do you have a male escort?
Ford Escort. The AK barely fits in the front seat.[/quote]
I fold my male escort in the trunk for easy storage.
Now THAT is genius!
Carry a male escort inside a Ford Escort.
I tried stealing falcon inside a Ford Falcon but that stupid bird never walked me to me car…EVER!
[quote]derek wrote:
Now THAT is genius!
Carry a male escort inside a Ford Escort.
I tried stealing falcon inside a Ford Falcon but that stupid bird never walked me to me car…EVER! [/quote]
You need a Ford Taurus.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:the “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.
Do not confuse this yahoo with the average american anything. He has more in common with a pimp (I don’t mean that in a good way – to the extent that there is a good way) than a responsible gun owner.
where’s you cc permit? how many hours of firearm safety and training have you had? please, if anything i have more training than most gunowners ever will. now before those of you who are law enforcement or have had more extensive training than me get all vocal about how special you are, i believe you.
you don’t have to respond like a douchebag. for the piggy, you have more in common with a hooker(being that i’d pimp slap the shit outta you, and i do mean that in a good way) feel free to continue your douchebaggery.
In order to keep this on topic, relying on your extensive training and experience, explain to all of us why deadly force is justified in this situation, citing specific facts provided by the original poster and applying California law.
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i never said there was justification for deadly force. i started by telling some other poster that following somebody to their care in order to acost them is not a good idea. i plead the 5th, where’s my lawyer.
[quote]ArcaneCocaine wrote:
Tatical decisions are for idiot pussies!
Mutherfucker you have to MAN UP bitch!
If 2 gangstas are to be roughing u up you have MAN UP and bitch slap those fuckers!
If a Muthfucker has a gun, don’t call the cops. MAN UP and take a bullet or two taking the muthifucker out!
If someone is having a heart attack don’t call a doctor…MAN UP and attack that mothufuckin heart attack! I used my defibrillator punch with much success!
If a metherfuckin toilet backs up don’t call a plumber…MAN UP and fight that shit!
If your mytherfucking girlfriend leaves her cellphone in your call don’t call her home number and tell her. MAN UP and throw that thing in her general direction!
I’m glad every single person on this thread is a fucking mega badass and would have seriously did time in order to fuck those losers up! Anything less than "I would have killed them both, drank their blood and put their head’s on the hood of my car as a symbol of my manly badassery is admiting your pussitry! You faggots!
The next time someone asks to use a bench…KICK HIM IN THE NUTS!!! Then kill him, lift weights in jail, get huge!!![/quote]
“You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don’t like no one touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I’ll kill you. And I don’t like nobody touching me. Any of you homos touch me, and I’ll kill you.”
This was the most intelligent post in the entire thread. I do not even know where to start, I stand completely disgusted by many of the responses.
Although each and every situation is different, to respond with, or even worse, initiate violence over something as trivial and non-life threatening as a ‘bench’ is beyond my comprehension. Choosing violence jeopardizes your life, your freedom (jail), and your financial wellbeing, let alone demonstrating a total lack of self-control, intelligence, and respect.
Yes internet badasses, there indeed are times for force to be used as an option, such as true scenarios of self-defense or defense of a loved one/person in dire need; this is not one of those times, and if you somehow interpret the event as a valid ‘violence opportunity,’ God help you if you do ever intend to leave ‘the internets’ and venture into reality.
Most importantly, fighting after a heavy session can lead to overtraining while also making consumption of the essential PWO highly improbable, unless you are as badass as the suprcraziemuhtafucka in the quote above. If you are, my humblest apologies, and I will gladly ‘catch’ for you.
With feelings,
-k