Gym Parking Lot Punks

I’m picturing Derek doing a farmer’s walk, carrying two punks by their belts. LOL.

[quote]derek wrote:
Another line that applies here is “Your best defense is a good offense”.

I’m often asked how I would deal with this or that situation. My answer is almost always; “I don’t know because I wouldn’t have let myself GET in that situation in the first place”.

The easiest way to get out of problem is usually to avoid getting into it altogether. You need to stop shit immediately, here and now. And that may mean going on the offensive and HARD.

If that happened, the OP could be posting about how two goons backed down from him at the gym because he stood up to them. Not the other way around.[/quote]

[quote]rottiesrule wrote:
mntnbiker wrote:
mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

WHAT the hell is a concealed carry permit?jeezus,you americans and your guns,its fukin nuts,but unfortunately it seams we are rapidly heading down the same path.

Please, PLEASE don’t use this guy as your example of an American who enjoys owning guns.[/quote]

on the contrary, use this example. we are all crazy and you don’t want to fuck with us.

p.s. i do enjoy owning guns, i do everything the average gun owner does.i frequent the range, hunt on occasion, and have had over 20 hours of class room training for firearm related issues at one time or another. i only happen to have put in the extra work required to carry my pistol with me legally(believe me it was allot of extra work).

i deliver pharmacueticals throughout southern and central California depending on which office needs my help at any given time. when you start getting into downtown la, norwalk, compton, watts etc. having that piece with you could be a life saver, it could also be the reason you get shot. i am willing to take that chance, i’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.the “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

[quote]Norwell Bob wrote:
I’m picturing Derek doing a farmer’s walk, carrying two punks by their belts. LOL.

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I’m glad YOU said it! I’d get accused of being an “internet tough guy” (in another thread) when I talk like that. Thanks, Norwell Bob!

It’s really for another thread but he’s right. It IS a lot of work to legally own and carry a firearm. And we’re not nut’s. The nut’s are the one’s who think we citizens should remain defensless against armed criminals.

[quote]allNatural wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.

Sucking up to professor x for whatever reason won’t get you an A, twat. “You showed fear, and therefore were scared”, brilliant. You weren’t there so you get to shut the fuck up.

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Review my post history and tell me where I suck up. Where in the post do I mention anyone or anything thing else except your post. There are some dudes who are smoking other’s hogs on this thread, but it sure as shit isn’t me. Maybe smoking those dudes hogs would have gotten you out of your jam since you couldn’t man up.

In my line of work I deal with large groups of potentially hostile indivduals who just might want to kill me to get what they want. I didn’t need to be involved in your incident and I didn’t post your scary story, you did. Now suck it up.

It’s OK to be afraid, you just shouldn’t show it…or write about it on a forum.

Do not confuse this yahoo with the average american anything. He has more in common with a pimp (I don’t mean that in a good way – to the extent that there is a good way) than a responsible gun owner.

[quote]derek wrote:
The “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

It’s really for another thread but he’s right. It IS a lot of work to legally own and carry a firearm. And we’re not nut’s. The nut’s are the one’s who think we citizens should remain defensless against armed criminals.
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derek,

It is a hijack on this thread and I apologize for propogating it, but I don’t agree that mazilla is right that the average American gun owner is like him.

The average gun owner doesn’t post on public forums about how “hard” he is, that he’s put a gun in someone’s mouth (or ear I can’t remember for sure).

The average gun owner doesn’t say

when talking about the permit they spent all that time working to get a permit that allows them to carry concealed, not a permit that allows them to shoot someone.

The average gun owner doesn’t keep talking about “law enforcement” hollowpoints when he posts about his carry setup as most agencies use off-the-shelf ammo and if they don’t, the ammunition they use is available to civilians under different names or slightly lighter powder loads.

I’ll give him this. The average gun owner usually does call a magazine for his semi-auto pistol a “clip” even though it’s not, but that’s just me picking nits.

The way mazilla talks about his weapons makes non-gun owners think the rest of us ARE nuts, and that makes them push for laws that attempt to hinder our abilities to protect ourselves.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:the “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

Do not confuse this yahoo with the average american anything. He has more in common with a pimp (I don’t mean that in a good way – to the extent that there is a good way) than a responsible gun owner.
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Darn it Loose Tool, I just spent a bunch of time on a post and you just said what I was trying to say with a lot fewer words and probably more clearly.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:the “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

Do not confuse this yahoo with the average american anything. He has more in common with a pimp (I don’t mean that in a good way – to the extent that there is a good way) than a responsible gun owner.
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where’s you cc permit? how many hours of firearm safety and training have you had? please, if anything i have more training than most gunowners ever will. now before those of you who are law enforcement or have had more extensive training than me get all vocal about how special you are, i believe you.

you don’t have to respond like a douchebag. for the piggy, you have more in common with a hooker(being that i’d pimp slap the shit outta you, and i do mean that in a good way) feel free to continue your douchebaggery.

Tatical decisions are for idiot pussies!

Mutherfucker you have to MAN UP bitch!

If 2 gangstas are to be roughing u up you have MAN UP and bitch slap those fuckers!

If a Muthfucker has a gun, don’t call the cops. MAN UP and take a bullet or two taking the muthifucker out!

If someone is having a heart attack don’t call a doctor…MAN UP and attack that mothufuckin heart attack! I used my defibrillator punch with much success!

If a metherfuckin toilet backs up don’t call a plumber…MAN UP and fight that shit!

If your mytherfucking girlfriend leaves her cellphone in your call don’t call her home number and tell her. MAN UP and throw that thing in her general direction!

I’m glad every single person on this thread is a fucking mega badass and would have seriously did time in order to fuck those losers up! Anything less than "I would have killed them both, drank their blood and put their head’s on the hood of my car as a symbol of my manly badassery is admiting your pussitry! You faggots!

The next time someone asks to use a bench…KICK HIM IN THE NUTS!!! Then kill him, lift weights in jail, get huge!!!

Bring Jeff

[quote]rottiesrule wrote:
derek wrote:
The “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

It’s really for another thread but he’s right. It IS a lot of work to legally own and carry a firearm. And we’re not nut’s. The nut’s are the one’s who think we citizens should remain defensless against armed criminals.

derek,

It is a hijack on this thread and I apologize for propogating it, but I don’t agree that mazilla is right that the average American gun owner is like him.[quote]

thats because your a pussy, trust me.

The average gun owner doesn’t post on public forums about how “hard” he is, that he’s put a gun in someone’s mouth (or ear I can’t remember for sure).[quote]

it was his mouth.

The average gun owner doesn’t say

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit.[quote]

no but they sure are thinking it.

when talking about the permit they spent all that time working to get a permit that allows them to carry concealed, not a permit that allows them to shoot someone. [quote]

under the right circumsatnce it most certainly is. it’s just a matter of having it with you, thats the key.

The average gun owner doesn’t keep talking about “law enforcement” hollowpoints when he posts about his carry setup as most agencies use off-the-shelf ammo and if they don’t, the ammunition they use is available to civilians under different names or slightly lighter powder loads.[quote]

i got them from my CHP father in law. they are “lawman” series .45 hollow points. you can’t buy them without a badge. of course it’s the powder load that makes the difference, thats why they are law enforcement loads.

I’ll give him this. The average gun owner usually does call a magazine for his semi-auto pistol a “clip” even though it’s not, but that’s just me picking nits.

The way mazilla talks about his weapons makes non-gun owners think the rest of us ARE nuts, and that makes them push for laws that attempt to hinder our abilities to protect ourselves.[/quote]

oh believe me it’s not me that makes them think that way, it’s the giant vagina between their legs. no one will ever hinder my ability to protect myself, you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

[quote]ArcaneCocaine wrote:
Tatical decisions are for idiot pussies!

Mutherfucker you have to MAN UP bitch!

If 2 gangstas are to be roughing u up you have MAN UP and bitch slap those fuckers!

If a Muthfucker has a gun, don’t call the cops. MAN UP and take a bullet or two taking the muthifucker out!

If someone is having a heart attack don’t call a doctor…MAN UP and attack that mothufuckin heart attack! I used my defibrillator punch with much success!

If a metherfuckin toilet backs up don’t call a plumber…MAN UP and fight that shit!

If your mytherfucking girlfriend leaves her cellphone in your call don’t call her home number and tell her. MAN UP and throw that thing in her general direction!

I’m glad every single person on this thread is a fucking mega badass and would have seriously did time in order to fuck those losers up! Anything less than "I would have killed them both, drank their blood and put their head’s on the hood of my car as a symbol of my manly badassery is admiting your pussitry! You faggots!

The next time someone asks to use a bench…KICK HIM IN THE NUTS!!! Then kill him, lift weights in jail, get huge!!![/quote]

bahahahahaa, that was great. i especially liked the “defibrillator punch”, you’ll have to tell me how to get down on that one.

and p.s. you dont put their heads on the hood of the car, you strap them to the grill.it has a better effect that way, plus less drag.

holy shit i just clicked on that past shoe thread and have been laughin my balls off behind the counter in the gym…gettin some nice looks from the members here now, haha

[quote]ArcaneCocaine wrote:
Tatical decisions are for idiot pussies!

Mutherfucker you have to MAN UP bitch!

If 2 gangstas are to be roughing u up you have MAN UP and bitch slap those fuckers!

If a Muthfucker has a gun, don’t call the cops. MAN UP and take a bullet or two taking the muthifucker out!

If someone is having a heart attack don’t call a doctor…MAN UP and attack that mothufuckin heart attack! I used my defibrillator punch with much success!

If a metherfuckin toilet backs up don’t call a plumber…MAN UP and fight that shit!

If your mytherfucking girlfriend leaves her cellphone in your call don’t call her home number and tell her. MAN UP and throw that thing in her general direction!

I’m glad every single person on this thread is a fucking mega badass and would have seriously did time in order to fuck those losers up! Anything less than "I would have killed them both, drank their blood and put their head’s on the hood of my car as a symbol of my manly badassery is admiting your pussitry! You faggots!

The next time someone asks to use a bench…KICK HIM IN THE NUTS!!! Then kill him, lift weights in jail, get huge!!![/quote]

“throw that thing in her general direction”, “manly badassery” and “fight that shit” are some great quotes. haha

I carry a Glock on my hip almost anytime I’m out in public. I don’t carry it for intimidation, only for last resort self defense… That said, people tend to give me space. I guess they figure I’m either a cop or just someone not to be screwed with.

[quote]Doc M wrote:
I carry a Glock on my hip almost anytime I’m out in public. I don’t carry it for intimidation, only for last resort self defense… That said, people tend to give me space. I guess they figure I’m either a cop or just someone not to be screwed with.[/quote]

i could totally kick your ass

[quote]mazilla wrote:
i especially liked the “defibrillator punch”, you’ll have to tell me how to get down on that one.[/quote]

Don’t worry it’s easy, now “the near death experience punch” that is really tricky.

allnatural, I think the take home point on this is… The next time something like this occurs vent to a friend, a close friend!

Better then having a thousand people psycho analyze your motives and intentions on the Internet. This thread is fast moving into the ranks of eliteballa, sasquatch99, and our new friend from Arkansas.

Take care,

D

[quote]mazilla wrote:
Loose Tool wrote:
mazilla wrote:the “average” American gun owner is more like me than not.

Do not confuse this yahoo with the average american anything. He has more in common with a pimp (I don’t mean that in a good way – to the extent that there is a good way) than a responsible gun owner.

where’s you cc permit? how many hours of firearm safety and training have you had? please, if anything i have more training than most gunowners ever will. now before those of you who are law enforcement or have had more extensive training than me get all vocal about how special you are, i believe you.

you don’t have to respond like a douchebag. for the piggy, you have more in common with a hooker(being that i’d pimp slap the shit outta you, and i do mean that in a good way) feel free to continue your douchebaggery.
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In order to keep this on topic, relying on your extensive training and experience, explain to all of us why deadly force is justified in this situation, citing specific facts provided by the original poster and applying California law.