[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
mazilla wrote:
in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.
Anyhow who would post that on an Internet message board would crap in his pants before having the stones to pull the trigger. Believe that![/quote]
whats the matter? scared? it’s ok, it happens allot.
look, my post was to let you know of the dangers that some people pose. knowing how i am, i’m just saying use caution when you want to follow somebody to their car. it’s the same for going to somebodies house, you never know what they have inside. it’s just not a very bright idea, and it shows a lack of experience with these types of situations.
i’ve had guns pulled on me, i’ve been shot at, i’ve pulled a gun on people(from car to car), i have friends that have been shot, one to death. i’ve been stabbed, jumped, and returned the favor. i’ve been locked up more than once. please don’t talk to me like you know something about real life.
the truth is that 99% of you are just a bunch of middle aged buisness men, who would readily hand over their wallet and their keys and don’t “want any trouble”. you can say whatever you want over the internet, you can lie about everything if it pleases you. i tell you this, i have no reason to lie. do you think that a cop is gonna read this shit, and be able to do something about it?
please, wake the fuck up.thats all i have to say about that.
The way I understood it from a person who was a navy seal, bodyguard, and bouncer, as well as a professional kickboxer. You have to use your head, there are situations where you have to stand up for yourself and not let them have advantage. And then there are situations where you have to put pride aside and run or get help.
Somehow I dont think that the two punks are the later, but a guy with a knife or a gun or some gangbanger are just time to make use of all that muscle built by squats.
[quote]MaloVerde wrote:
There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.[/quote]
Sucking up to professor x for whatever reason won’t get you an A, twat. “You showed fear, and therefore were scared”, brilliant. You weren’t there so you get to shut the fuck up.
[quote]mazilla wrote:
look, my post was to let you know of the dangers that some people pose. knowing how i am, i’m just saying use caution when you want to follow somebody to their car. it’s the same for going to somebodies house, you never know what they have inside. it’s just not a very bright idea, and it shows a lack of experience with these types of situations.
i’ve had guns pulled on me, i’ve been shot at, i’ve pulled a gun on people(from car to car), i have friends that have been shot, one to death. i’ve been stabbed, jumped, and returned the favor. i’ve been locked up more than once. please don’t talk to me like you know something about real life.
the truth is that 99% of you are just a bunch of middle aged buisness men, who would readily hand over their wallet and their keys and don’t “want any trouble”. you can say whatever you want over the internet, you can lie about everything if it pleases you. i tell you this, i have no reason to lie. do you think that a cop is gonna read this shit, and be able to do something about it?
please, wake the fuck up.thats all i have to say about that.[/quote]
Dude, who are you directing your posts towards? You are acting like no one else but you has any life experience. Yes, this is the internet, but do you honestly think everyone responding in this thread somehow missed every danger in life growing up?
You’ve had a friend who has been shot? Well, aren’t you all alone on that one. Maybe we can trade war stories at some other time, however, I am betting that not everyone here grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. The exact same assumptions you are telling people to avoid are the same ones you are making about others.
[quote]allNatural wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.
Sucking up to professor x for whatever reason won’t get you an A, twat. “You showed fear, and therefore were scared”, brilliant. You weren’t there so you get to shut the fuck up.
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Gee, none of us were there, thus we rely on your telling of the story to get an understanding of what happened. You either told this story to get the opinion of others…or you told it to comfort yourself about your decision. Apparently, the comforting isn’t working out too well.
kind of on the weapon thing…not trying to hijack the thread, but…
has anyone ever thought of carrying one of those heavy duty sling shots with the metal balls? you know, the ones with the wrist brace…haha…
have you ever seen anyone walk ~towards~ a slingshot…? hell no, i havnt…lol…
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Based on the tone of your posts (and a person can often tell a lot about a person based on how the person writes), [/quote] are you serious?
[quote]it’s obvious why you were picked up: You seem very timid and fearful. [/quote]what is picked up? He didn’t want to fight unless it was 2on1. I already said this.
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Let’s look at the facts: First, you claim to be so large that the guy must be jealous of you. Of course, if you were so large, it’s unlikely he would have followed you around the gym, and waited for you in the parking lot. [/quote]
I said this because there was apparently no other reason at all for him to beef with me. Maybe I carry myself like I’m king shit and he didn’t like that, but he “stalked” me “kept an eye on me” whatever the fuck you want to call it at my other exercise.
I’ll provide more details since youre so interested. I saw him and said sarcastically “You need this bench too”? he said “no just seeing how much you do”. I did another set and he was still there so I got up quick like “what the fuck do you want” ready to fight there and he walked away.
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People are cowards and tend to only prey on those they view as vulnerable. Assuming you are “large,” you obviously do not present yourself as being “in charge.” [/quote]
again, he obviously didn’t see me as vulnerable in a fair fight.
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Second, let’s look at your word selection: “Punk.” If you were a bad ass, you would have said, “punk bitches,” or something like that. “Punk” is a term that people who are bullied use to describe people bullying them. It’s like saying, “The guy was so mean to me!” Alpha Males don’t use those terms.
You also used the word “stalking.” Prey - not predators - get stalked. I (and anyone I know who can fight) would never say someone “stalked” me. Instead, we’d say we were “followed,” or had some guy “try to run up on us.” It’s a subtle - but important - distinction.[/quote] you gotta be fuckin kidding me
[quote]Next, you say you “duck back into the gym.” Again, this is Beta Male language. An Alpha Male describing the story would: “I went to grab someone to watch my back.” Instead, you “ducked”!
Of course, most telling is what you did: “[I got] my friend who works there to walk with me back out …” I simply would have said, “Hey, dude, I got my friend here to keep things fair. It’s one-on-one.” Instead, you had your friend escort you to your car.
WTF?! I find it very hard to believe that you are a “big guy” who “gets shit shit” because people are “jealous of your size.” If you truly do have a remarkable physique, then it’s like your “persona” is very Beta Male. Go take a jiu-jitsu class or something.
On da real. [/quote]
You are officially a moron on da real
[quote]Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.
Sucking up to professor x for whatever reason won’t get you an A, twat. “You showed fear, and therefore were scared”, brilliant. You weren’t there so you get to shut the fuck up.
Gee, none of us were there, thus we rely on your telling of the story to get an understanding of what happened. You either told this story to get the opinion of others…or you told it to comfort yourself about your decision. Apparently, the comforting isn’t working out too well.[/quote]
the opinion I wanted was if anyone gets bitches like in the story trying to start shit in the parking lot. None of you being there has to do with not making dumbass assumptions about details not mentioned.
[quote]Neebone wrote:
allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?
A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.
I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.
Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud.
I dont know if you’ve ever fought before but 2 on 1 aint that bad - especially if the 2 arent sure of themselves which they obviously were if the dude had to bring backup. You just gotta step to them fast and hard. Take one down and you can play with the other. More likely is that the friend will duck out.
Should have stood your ground dude.[/quote]
I’ll keep that in mind next time, but the way my instincts went, I was going to get very fucked up if I stayed there and fought. I’ve been in brawls before and I’ll fight anyone 1on1, but 2on1 you’re bound to get caught and I really didn’t feel like it at the time. Yea, guess I’m a pussy, whatever.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL. The assumption is that was a bitch move. the assumption is also that he was thinking the exact same thing. The assumption also happens to be that most guys, regardless of how “smart” it may be, would have kept walking to their car prepared to deal with things as they may should they be taken to that level even if the goal was to avoid a confrontation overall.
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LOLOLOL. Again read what I wrote. I kept walking to my car prepared to deal with things as they may, but then he called his friend over. ok?
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Here’s what an Alpha Male would have handled the situation:
I just got back from the gym where this guy apparently had some beef with me. Man, I feel sorry for guys like that. I often wonder, “Even if the other guy started shit, is it moral for me to beat up people so inferior to me?”
Here’s what happened: I was using a bench when all of them were full. I went to get different dumbells and this guy sat on the bench. I told him I just had a few more sets, but that he could work in with me if he wanted to.
Anyhow, he sloowlly gives up the bench like he’s a badass. As he leaves I said, “Okay, your choice man. Just let me know if you change your mind.”[/quote] wasn’t trying to start shit
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The guy then followed me to my next exercise. I stood up, looked him in the eyes, held his stare for three seconds and said, “You looking for something?”
He gave me some snide look but, typical of his ilk, walked away like a punk bitch. Whatever – I still had a workout to finish![/quote] refer to my added details
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When I was walking out of the gym he followed me out to my car. I stopped, held his gaze and said, “If you take one step closer to me, I will consider it an act of aggression. You’ve been warned.”
He didn’t take another step forward but instead started to talk shit. I just started laughing out loud. Guys like that never want to fight. They just want to talk. I left him to talk to himself.
As started to drive away, I looked him in the eyes once more, smiled and said, “Have a nice day.” [/quote]
Something like this is mostly likely what would happen if he didn’t call his friend over the moment I turned around ready to fight, but being a bitch, I didn’t want to fight 2on1, despite how “not that bad” it is.
[quote]allNatural wrote:
Maybe I carry myself like I’m king shit…[/quote]
Ummm… NO! If you carried yourself like a predator, you wouldn’t be treated like prey.
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I did another set and he was still there so I got up quick like “what the fuck do you want” ready to fight there and he walked away.[/quote]
LOL. Funny how your story changes. So I’m to believe a guy who “ducked” into to the gym to have a friend escort him to his car was a tough guy just a while before that? Remember, dude, everyone here noticed the same thing: If you had really wanted to fight, you would had your buddy watch your back - not carry you on his arm to your car!
Dude, you posted this thread hoping people would chime in with: “Dude, that’s so messed up you got picked on! You’re just so huge. Everyone is jealous.” Instead just about everyone agreed that you made a punk-bitch move by having your buddy escort you to the car like a girl who was afraid to go into a dark parking lot.
You can try to change your story and call me names. That’s cool. But you’re not fooling anyone - except, perhaps, yourself!
[quote]allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
MaloVerde wrote:
There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.
Sucking up to professor x for whatever reason won’t get you an A, twat. “You showed fear, and therefore were scared”, brilliant. You weren’t there so you get to shut the fuck up.
Gee, none of us were there, thus we rely on your telling of the story to get an understanding of what happened. You either told this story to get the opinion of others…or you told it to comfort yourself about your decision. Apparently, the comforting isn’t working out too well.
the opinion I wanted was if anyone gets bitches like in the story trying to start shit in the parking lot. None of you being there has to do with not making dumbass assumptions about details not mentioned.
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…and like was told to you, no, I personally don’t get anything like what you mentioned because any potential situations are squashed LONG before they reach that level. If anything, I have to tone things down on a regular basis so people don’t think I’m crazy or that I will hurt them.
I have to “fake smile” on a regular basis. Part of that is due to how I carry myself because this isn’t JUST because of size. I’ve been getting shit like that since I was much smaller. It is just now taken to a higher level because I stand out more. Many have told you the same thing.
Much of the way people respond to you is based on how you present yourself and how you carry yourself. Yes, there are some crazy people out there who might start shit in spite of most avoiding a confrontation, however, they are usually few and far between. I would not have handled things the way you did. I would have walked to my car BY MYSELF.
People may initially TRY to start shit with me every once in a while, but they usually back down before it goes any further. that’s life. I didn’t grow up expecting to avoid confrontations. I grew up expecting to be in confrontations. It was a surprise when I wasn’t. That’s the difference between someone who grew up around an atmosphere like that and someone who didn’t.
I lock my car door because I expect it to be broken into. Someone from Bellaire may not even consider that as a possibility so they leave the car running as they run inside the house real quick. I see that as stupidity. They see it as a shock when someone steals the damn car. Same with you.
[quote]ConanSpeaks wrote:
Even though you were on the bench first did you leave a towel or water bottle on the bench when you left to change out dumbbells? Did you jump down the guy’s throat and back him into a corner or did you give him some alternatives like “I’m on that bench, but you can work in if you don’t mind working on 60 seconds rest?” or “I have 3 more sets. You want to work in or wait until I’m done?”
All I’m saying is that if you had skills, namely social skills, you could navigate your gym without a problem. My guess is you probably verbally castrated this guy in front of the entire gym and now he wants a little payback to save face. Why don’t you head off the situation and apologize to the guy for busting his balls and save yourself the trouble of getting blindsided on the way out to your car.[/quote] I could have been nicer about it i guess, I said “I’m still here” in a non-confrontational way. He then acted all badass and I didn’t care to make friends. I didn’t say anthing else to him except at the other bench he was watching me at and thats what pissed him off I guess. I have nothing to apologize for. He was the inistigator and was probably having a bad day like people said.
If anyone wants anymore details, feel free to pm me
[quote]allNatural wrote:
I’ve been in brawls before and I’ll fight anyone 1on1 …[/quote]
No one believes that. If you really looked deep within yourself, you wouldn’t believe it, either.
[quote]mazilla wrote:
i’ve been locked up more than once. please don’t talk to me like you know something about real life. [/quote]
Umm… If that were true, you wouldn’t have a concealed carry permit. As you would well know, it’s illegal for a felon to own a firearm. Thus, if you can’t legally own a firearm, you would never have been issued a concealed-carry permit.
[quote]allNatural wrote:
If anyone wants anymore details, feel free to pm me[/quote]
LOL. All anyone needs to know is this: Instead of having your buddy watch your back (thus allowing you to fight one-on-one), you had your buddy escort you to the car. That’s really where this conversation begins, and ends. If you buddy couldn’t/wouldn’t do that, why didn’t you call someone else? Exactly.
Dude, seriously, it’s no big deal that you backed down. Not everyone can hold his own in a fight. In fact, guys who can fight are few and far between.
Just stop fronting. For real.
I’ll give you a (short) story.
Was walking near a local estate with a friend when one from a group of guys snatches the mobile phone from my friends hand and walks off.
So my friend is asking for them to give it back while they casually stroll of into the estate laughing.
So we had 2 choices: 1) accept this as a loss, forget the situation and leave -or- 2) go into the estate, confront the guys and risk getting the shit beaten out of us (outnumbered 5-2).
We chose option 2. Reason being was that this was our neighbourhood too - so to risk it happening again just wasnt an option.
We walked round the corner into the estate (no one else around) and they squared up. We posted up against them and I said to just give my friend back his phone. After looking at the phone for a few seconds the guy just threw it on a patch of grass next to us and his posse walked off. Case closed.
Moral of the story? Even when your outnumbered, sometimes (not always) you’ve got to man up and stand your ground. Besides, unless their packing or look like 400lb powerlifters, you’ve got a pretty good chance of coming out on top if you “look” like you’re tough enough.