Gym Parking Lot Punks

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Did you ever think that the way you handled the initial confrontation is part of the problem?

Being a member of a commercial gym means that you get the benefit of alot of equipment for a low price but you have to “share”.

Even though you were on the bench first did you leave a towel or water bottle on the bench when you left to change out dumbbells? Did you jump down the guy’s throat and back him into a corner or did you give him some alternatives like “I’m on that bench, but you can work in if you don’t mind working on 60 seconds rest?” or “I have 3 more sets. You want to work in or wait until I’m done?”

All I’m saying is that if you had skills, namely social skills, you could navigate your gym without a problem. My guess is you probably verbally castrated this guy in front of the entire gym and now he wants a little payback to save face. Why don’t you head off the situation and apologize to the guy for busting his balls and save yourself the trouble of getting blindsided on the way out to your car.

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[quote]Neebone wrote:

I dont know if you’ve ever fought before but 2 on 1 aint that bad - especially if the 2 arent sure of themselves which they obviously were if the dude had to bring backup. You just gotta step to them fast and hard. Take one down and you can play with the other. More likely is that the friend will duck out.

Should have stood your ground dude.[/quote]

Yup. Even the ‘I may get fucked up, but I’ll sure as hell fuck one or both of you guys up in the process.’ line can be enough to make them think.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:

Second, let’s look at your word selection: “Punk.” If you were a bad ass, you would have said, “punk bitches,” or something like that. “Punk” is a term that people who are bullied use to describe people bullying them. It’s like saying, “The guy was so mean to me!” Alpha Males don’t use those terms.

You also used the word “stalking.” Prey - not predators - get stalked. I (and anyone I know who can fight) would never say someone “stalked” me. Instead, we’d say we were “followed,” or had some guy “try to run up on us.” It’s a subtle - but important - distinction.

[/quote]

I don’t see the word punk being used to describe a bully. When I call someone a punk, its usually a little kid thats being obnoxious.

And on the stalking, men should only use this term when describing crazy exgirlfriends.

Other than the punk comment, I think you’re pretty much spot on.

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[quote]AznMscls wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:

Second, let’s look at your word selection: “Punk.” If you were a bad ass, you would have said, “punk bitches,” or something like that. “Punk” is a term that people who are bullied use to describe people bullying them. It’s like saying, “The guy was so mean to me!” Alpha Males don’t use those terms.

You also used the word “stalking.” Prey - not predators - get stalked. I (and anyone I know who can fight) would never say someone “stalked” me. Instead, we’d say we were “followed,” or had some guy “try to run up on us.” It’s a subtle - but important - distinction.

I don’t see the word punk being used to describe a bully. When I call someone a punk, its usually a little kid thats being obnoxious.

And on the stalking, men should only use this term when describing crazy exgirlfriends.

Other than the punk comment, I think you’re pretty much spot on.[/quote]

I see “punk” as kids between 12 and early 20’s who cause trouble and talk big but have nothing to back it up. They may try to bully but as soon as you fuck them up they run to mom/cops.

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[quote]Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?[/quote]

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:

I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?[/quote]

yes… it is the way thinks go for some ppl.

they feel the fear and the weak and smash them. Why? because “Ubi major minor cessat”

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[quote]mazilla wrote:
in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.
[/quote]

Anyhow who would post that on an Internet message board would crap in his pants before having the stones to pull the trigger. Believe that!

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
mazilla wrote:
in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

Anyhow who would post that on an Internet message board would crap in his pants before having the stones to pull the trigger. Believe that![/quote]

Agreed,
people like this give fuel to the anti-gun movement.

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[quote]mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.
[/quote]

It is still illegal in California for you to shoot someone who is not armed, in this case you would be charged with murder, i.e. the use of your gun is not “legit”.

I dont blame the guy, he doesn’t like to fight that’s it, that doesnt make him a pussy. Those guys never actually confronted him or insulted him, why bother with those loosers. I dont think that acting like a bad ass would deter 2 idiots from jumping your ass in a parking lot. A lonely punk would think twice but not 2.
my 2 cents

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[quote]DR. J wrote:
mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

It is still illegal in California for you to shoot someone who is not armed, in this case you would be charged with murder, i.e. the use of your gun is not “legit”.

I dont blame the guy, he doesn’t like to fight that’s it, that doesnt make him a pussy. Those guys never actually confronted him or insulted him, why bother with those loosers. I dont think that acting like a bad ass would deter 2 idiots from jumping your ass in a parking lot. A lonely punk would think twice but not 2.
my 2 cents[/quote]

I think there is a HUGE difference between “not acting like a bad ass” and “being a bitch”. Walking to your car and ignoring the two dumbasses is how you go about your business without doing anything but being a man who isn’t afraid to walk to his car without a male escort.

How much have we lost our manhood when the proper approach to this situation is “run and get male escort”?

You’re a teacher and a 10 year old student talked back to you? Run and get a male escort!

You’re walking with your girl and some guy reaches out and grabs her ass while you’re standing there? Run and get a male escort! God Forbid you act like a fucking man in that situation. You don’t want to be a badass, do you? RUN!

Your car has a flat tire? Run and get a male escort!

Grocery bags a little heavy? Run and get a male escort!

Down with the badass!! Praise the she-male!!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
DR. J wrote:
mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

It is still illegal in California for you to shoot someone who is not armed, in this case you would be charged with murder, i.e. the use of your gun is not “legit”.

I dont blame the guy, he doesn’t like to fight that’s it, that doesnt make him a pussy. Those guys never actually confronted him or insulted him, why bother with those loosers. I dont think that acting like a bad ass would deter 2 idiots from jumping your ass in a parking lot. A lonely punk would think twice but not 2.
my 2 cents

I think there is a HUGE difference between “not acting like a bad ass” and “being a bitch”. Walking to your car and ignoring the two dumbasses is how you go about your business without doing anything but being a man who isn’t afraid to walk to his car without a male escort.

How much have we lost our manhood when the proper approach to this situation is “run and get male escort”?

You’re a teacher and a 10 year old student talked back to you? Run and get a male escort!

You’re walking with your girl and some guy reaches out and grabs her ass while you’re standing there? Run and get a male escort! God Forbid you act like a fucking man in that situation. You don’t want to be a badass, do you? RUN!

Your car has a flat tire? Run and get a male escort!

Grocery bags a little heavy? Run and get a male escort!

Down with the badass!! Praise the she-male!![/quote]

I wasn’t there,so I cant judge him for getting help. I know that were I live (LA) there are situations were if you “man” up to put the smack down, you have an very good chance of ending up dead. Sometimes is good to get back up, like when 2 or 3 obvious gang bangers are giving you shit, maybe you can take them on, not me, I have too much too lose.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I think there is a HUGE difference between “not acting like a bad ass” and “being a bitch”. Walking to your car and ignoring the two dumbasses is how you go about your business without doing anything but being a man who isn’t afraid to walk to his car without a male escort.

How much have we lost our manhood when the proper approach to this situation is “run and get male escort”?

You’re a teacher and a 10 year old student talked back to you? Run and get a male escort!

You’re walking with your girl and some guy reaches out and grabs her ass while you’re standing there? Run and get a male escort! God Forbid you act like a fucking man in that situation. You don’t want to be a badass, do you? RUN!

Your car has a flat tire? Run and get a male escort!

Grocery bags a little heavy? Run and get a male escort!

Down with the badass!! Praise the she-male!![/quote]

Holy SHIT, X! Dude(s) how can anyone argue with this logic?

I’ve disagreed with X in the past but there IS NO OTHER WAY HERE!
He’s absolutely right. Any “man” that backs away or ducks back into the gym is too far gone to be helped.

What you do is stop, turn (getting enraged by now because he’s fucking with your manhood) and say something like “Why the FUCK are you following me?”. “You got something to say to me?”.
Or something that stops him from following you. What you DO NOT do is back down or duck away for help. Especially if it’s only 2 on 1.

“Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees”

Not saying that you are looking to literally DIE here but shit, at least stand up for yourself… you only get one chance to make a first impression.

What first impression do you think you made?

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"It is still illegal in California for you to shoot someone who is not armed, in this case you would be charged with murder, i.e. the use of your gun is not “legit”.

That’s why OJ used a knife. He’s no dummy. You can get in trouble, even in CA, if you shoot someone. Stick 'em; don’t shoot 'em! Just make sure you go to McDonalds with a little blonde metrosexual and get blessed first.

As far as AllNat is concerned, he showed common sense. Anyone who has been in a combat situation knows that your ego is not worth getting killed over. Pick YOUR time and place to engage the enemy. If it is their time and place and you are outgunned, look for the first extraction route. If your ego is telling you to take a beating to be a ‘man’, your just plain stupid and pretty damn unsure of yourself. (Please note that I exclude all internet tough guys from this statement.)

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I have always hated pussies who jump people. I remeber in HS when a good friend of mine was getting jumped by 3 kids. So I jumped in and took one of them out pretty quickly sadly my friend got fucked up pretty bad by the other two before it was broken up.

Like people have said, I think if you would have given them a look and attitude that says “Come and get your ass beat” They wouldn’t have done shit.

Case in point. Recently I was walking to a friends house at about 1 AM. I see two kids about my age (17)walking towards me with a baseball bat (No gloves or balls) So I start thinking to myself… I may get hit with a bat right now, gotta get ready. So the one with the bat says

“Yo, run yo pockets” (yes pronouncing your is very tough)

Me: “I’m broke”

“Run yo pockets”

Me: “Nah”

“Nah?”

Me: “You heard me”

Then they just grilled me for a few seconds and walked away. It actually made me laugh… what the fuck is the point of confronting someone like that then not going through with it? Granted I had about 4 inches and 80 lbs on either of them.

So yeah, maybe it is different when you are in your early 20’s as opposed to your late teens, but I feel it’s better not to take any shit.

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[quote]mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.
[/quote]

Wow, just seeing the words RAMPAGE across my screen, I cowered like a small ferret (maybe a mongoose, I don’t have the Nature Channel) under my chair at your sheer BadAssitude!

Do you have that problem often? Terrifying anyone and everyone that comes within smelling distance of your ALPHA PHEREMONES?!

And, these people that you terrify…do they try to cover up their fear by giggling and calling you a douchenozzle?

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Also there is one thing I used to think about when heading back after a good workout. Who the fuck is still capable of fighting well after a good squat or bench day? All I know is I punch like a 12 year old girl after either of these days. So unless I’m going up against a middle schooler I’m probably going to be fucked.

I don’t know maybe the really strong people, who bench like 450 and squat 600 still have some power after a hard workout.

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I think you could of went without the male escort, haha. Walking to your car, getting in, and driving away would of been the best thing to do. If you had to fight, just be the one to make the first move, and don’t let up.

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Now I’m thinking that my reply makes me sound like one of those “internet tough guys”. So be it.

No, you don’t ALWAYS have to be a hero and I’m certainly not calling the OP out as a pussy. I just think he should’ve handled it another way.

Maybe all this talk about “smelling fear” is right. Maybe what X said about being “crazier” is correct.

This stuff never happens to me except in traffic when I drive my wife’s minivan. Which is another interesting twist…
When I drive her gold minivan, it seems EVERYONE either cuts me off, tailgates or tries to take me at the lights. When I drive my fullsize 4x4 Bronco with angle iron front bumper, mud tires etc. I don’t experience any of this stuff.

Just like humans, the minivan just screams “defenseless mom” and the Bronco is more like Ted Nugent or something agressive and tough.

It’s kind of a choice which message you want to send via body language. Are you a minvan guy or a fullsize 4x4 type?

Sorry, I’m rambling.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
allNatural wrote:
The point is, do any of you big guys get this type of shit? b/c I honestly feel like he just wanted to fight me (not 1on1 though obviously) because he’s jealous of my size or whatever else.

What is the point of this?

The point is the fucking question that followed “the point is,”. It’s to discuss this situation and if anybody gets the same thing. If you don’t have any answer or something to contribute, then “whats the point” of you asking what the point is? fuck off[/quote]

Well here’s my contribution. Anyone that has to justify a situation like this using their “enormous size” is covering for something else. I actually agree with professor x that this something else was you being timid and handling the situation poorly.

In our world today, size is not an indicator of dominance. People don’t start shit with people just because they are big. Believe it or not, you probably either did something, or this guy is just plain weird, but get off your ego trip and stop blaiming your appearance.

I’ve lived in the “bad part of town” most of my life, so I know that sometimes it is smarter to duck out of a situation than handle it, and sometimes it’s better to take your ass kicking than get stabbed later on. I don’t think this was a situation where getting an attendent was a very good idea.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
mazilla wrote:
Avoids Roids wrote:
Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?

i don’t know, but thats why i have a concealed carry permit.

RULE # 1- never follow somebody to their car if they are close enough to open the door, you never know whats inside. ex: my smith and wesson 1911-a1 “loaded”,non-stock 10 round clip, loaded with law enforcement hollow points. talking it out, or fist fighting it out even, are better ways to solve thing’s.just be warned if you happen to cross somebody like me who’s legit or an off duty cop especially they will not hesitate to shoot you if need be.

in fact, i’ll shoot you just to make use of my permit. luckily nobody has put me in that situation, yet. knock on wood. save all the “internet toughguy” crap if thats crossing your mind, i’m just telling it like it is i promise.

Wow, just seeing the words RAMPAGE across my screen, I cowered like a small ferret (maybe a mongoose, I don’t have the Nature Channel) under my chair at your sheer BadAssitude!

Do you have that problem often? Terrifying anyone and everyone that comes within smelling distance of your ALPHA PHEREMONES?!

And, these people that you terrify…do they try to cover up their fear by giggling and calling you a douchenozzle?[/quote]

what are you rambling on about? is there a point to all of this jibber jabber?