Gym Parking Lot Punks

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
allNatural wrote:
The point is, do any of you big guys get this type of shit? b/c I honestly feel like he just wanted to fight me (not 1on1 though obviously) because he’s jealous of my size or whatever else.

What is the point of this?

The point is the fucking question that followed “the point is,”. It’s to discuss this situation and if anybody gets the same thing. If you don’t have any answer or something to contribute, then “whats the point” of you asking what the point is? fuck off

You ducked back into the gym. That alone made you a target for further abuse. It may have been the “smartest” decision to avoid any and all conflict at that particular moment, but you are assuming that the situation couldn’t have been handled without violence even if they approached you. I haven’t had anyone approach me in a way like that since my freshmen year of college…and I weighed about 155lbs.

Maybe it is the way you carry yourself, or perhaps you simply have an enemy for some reason, however, people can smell “fear” and they can tell when you don’t have what it takes to back up anything you might say. You have a choice. You can either start giving up the bench press anytime someone sits on it while you are getting a drink of water in order to NEVER have another conflict at all…ever. Or, you can learn to look people in the eye and walk with more confidence. People fuck with you if they think they can win. They don’t fuck with you if they think they are going to lose.

Situations where some guy sits on your bench must happen all day everyday. You made one apparent mistake (upon noticing that he was following you). You clearly gave some kind of sign that he was a threat to you. That was why he pushed it further. People are crazy. That’s just a fact. Sometimes, you have to be crazier.[/quote]

I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?

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You should have just kept a discreet eye on him walked to your car ignored him and drove off. He sounds like a young guy who wants to feed off of your reaction to him.

He likely would have kept up his mad dogging, but not taken it further then that. Sometimes you just gotta add up the odds and make your decision.

Now if he and his friend were truly Loco and followed you out and attacked you… your moment of truth had arrived and hopefully you can get down like you know how.

D

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?[/quote]

A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.

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There is no mis-reading your story. You showed fear, and therefore were scared.

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[quote]alocubano1110 wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:

Its comments like these that makes people think high school kids are punks.

To the OP, dont fight him. If you say you’re bigger than him and hes just jealous- you have nothing to prove.

I’m just saying that he should defend himself, stick up for himself. YOu don’t have to be a dick.[/quote]

Actually, you said he should go after him when he is alone. How is that “defending” yourself?

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It NEVER happens to me anymore. That’s because in CT it is a felony to strike the first blow on anyone who is older than 60 (even if the old guy kicks his ass). I’m am now legally invincable!!! Brahahahahahaha

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who cares if he’s got a friend? You go and get another person who works at the gym? that makes you look like a tattle tail. its not like the guys going to kill you or soemthing. I would’ve jsut got in there faces and asked then what there deal was. well yelled in there face. If they had something to say i would’ve knocked the guy out. i always love a good fight.

If your going to live life beign a puss why not pick up like ballet or hip-hop dancing or something? Even if they kicked your ass at least you wouldn’t be a pussy

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?

A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation. [/quote]

I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.

Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud.

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Professor X has a point, dude. Even if it did hurt your ego a little.

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I am not sayin the guy should have followed you,but maybe next time you should ask a person if they want to work in,on the bench you are using ,after all your going to a public place and you dont own the equipment.If some guy would have told someone at the gyms i used to attend that they couldnt use the bench because they werent done with it, they would’ve said screw you.And more than likely there would been a fight in the gym.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?

A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.

I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.

Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud. [/quote]

I gotta go with Prof. X on this one. You have two options:

A) Man up and confront these guys, maybe beat the fuck out of them and/or get beaten yourself.

B) Remain a whiny bitch and avoid physical confrontation of any sort, then turn to the members of T-Nation to justify your bitchiness and when they don’t, whine that they shouldn’t be posting on your thread or don’t understand you.

Also, given the fact that he signalled his friend to double team you and you walked away without having your lunch handed to you tells me one of two things:

A) They weren’t very tough/bright. I signal my friend to back me up in a fight; if the other guy looks at my friend, he’ll catch an elbow when he turns around. If he doesn’t turn around, he’ll just get to be surprised when my friend shows up. Either way, if you’re gonna fight, you don’t just get away.

B) They weren’t absolutely fixed on beating your ass. Maybe just intimidating and/or toying with you which means ducking into the gym didn’t help you any.

Now, if you’ll excuse me… I smell blood.

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You should have challenged him to a dance-off…like in “Beat Street” or “Breakin’”

A Suicide Dive followed by an Insane Corkscrew is a great finisher!

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Was he a big honking red neck? I’m in GA too and we have our share…

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Based on the tone of your posts (and a person can often tell a lot about a person based on how the person writes), it’s obvious why you were picked up: You seem very timid and fearful.

Let’s look at the facts: First, you claim to be so large that the guy must be jealous of you. Of course, if you were so large, it’s unlikely he would have followed you around the gym, and waited for you in the parking lot.

People are cowards and tend to only prey on those they view as vulnerable. Assuming you are “large,” you obviously do not present yourself as being “in charge.”

Second, let’s look at your word selection: “Punk.” If you were a bad ass, you would have said, “punk bitches,” or something like that. “Punk” is a term that people who are bullied use to describe people bullying them. It’s like saying, “The guy was so mean to me!” Alpha Males don’t use those terms.

You also used the word “stalking.” Prey - not predators - get stalked. I (and anyone I know who can fight) would never say someone “stalked” me. Instead, we’d say we were “followed,” or had some guy “try to run up on us.” It’s a subtle - but important - distinction.

Next, you say you “duck back into the gym.” Again, this is Beta Male language. An Alpha Male describing the story would: “I went to grab someone to watch my back.” Instead, you “ducked”!

Of course, most telling is what you did: “[I got] my friend who works there to walk with me back out …” I simply would have said, “Hey, dude, I got my friend here to keep things fair. It’s one-on-one.” Instead, you had your friend escort you to your car.

WTF?! I find it very hard to believe that you are a “big guy” who “gets shit shit” because people are “jealous of your size.” If you truly do have a remarkable physique, then it’s like your “persona” is very Beta Male. Go take a jiu-jitsu class or something.

On da real.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?

A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.

I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.

Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud. [/quote]

I dont know if you’ve ever fought before but 2 on 1 aint that bad - especially if the 2 arent sure of themselves which they obviously were if the dude had to bring backup. You just gotta step to them fast and hard. Take one down and you can play with the other. More likely is that the friend will duck out.

Should have stood your ground dude.

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
Professor X wrote:
allNatural wrote:
I think you misread my story…you must smell weakness on me or something, and trying to start a confrontation?

A confrontation? Is this a race to see who can duck back into the gym the fastest? I honestly don’t think I read your post wrong. I don’t think the guy you are having problems with read you wrong either. Are you saying you don’t believe your own actions possibly helped this along at all? Only half of the problem is the guy who followed you around. The other half is the fact that you didn’t seem prepared in any way to ever deal with something like that…and that is a problem in itself even if you want to avoid a confrontation.

I didn’t state my actions differently than they were, and I don’t appreciate you suggesting otherwise and making assumptions that I ducked back into the gym b/c I wasnt courageously prepared or whatever the fuck you’re insinuating. If you give enough of a fuck to respond, take it for what it says. If you read correctly, you would have read that after I “accepted his challenge”, he signaled his friend to double team me, then I ducked back in the gym.

Before you make any assumptions, maybe you should ask for details or clarification, otherwise you can save your analysis for your paying patients, professor freud. [/quote]

LOL. The assumption is that was a bitch move. the assumption is also that he was thinking the exact same thing. The assumption also happens to be that most guys, regardless of how “smart” it may be, would have kept walking to their car prepared to deal with things as they may should they be taken to that level even if the goal was to avoid a confrontation overall.

I don’t know where you grew up and that really isn’t significant. I do know, however, that had I told my friends this same story and mentioned I went back into the gym when I saw two guys, I would be banned from any further outings. I know, that isn’t what you wanted to hear, but sadly, it is the truth. That would be like painting a huge target on your back if you lived in Houston. You might as well expect another hit or a driveby.

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I just had to throw a link in to “the shoe”…maybe it’ll lighten the mood a bit…this shit is hilarious!!!

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=868493&pageNo=0#868493

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Here’s what an Alpha Male would have handled the situation:

I just got back from the gym where this guy apparently had some beef with me. Man, I feel sorry for guys like that. I often wonder, “Even if the other guy started shit, is it moral for me to beat up people so inferior to me?”

Here’s what happened: I was using a bench when all of them were full. I went to get different dumbells and this guy sat on the bench. I told him I just had a few more sets, but that he could work in with me if he wanted to.

Anyhow, he sloowlly gives up the bench like he’s a badass. As he leaves I said, “Okay, your choice man. Just let me know if you change your mind.”

The guy then followed me to my next exercise. I stood up, looked him in the eyes, held his stare for three seconds and said, “You looking for something?”

He gave me some snide look but, typical of his ilk, walked away like a punk bitch. Whatever – I still had a workout to finish!

When I was walking out of the gym he followed me out to my car. I stopped, held his gaze and said, “If you take one step closer to me, I will consider it an act of aggression. You’ve been warned.”

He didn’t take another step forward but instead started to talk shit. I just started laughing out loud. Guys like that never want to fight. They just want to talk. I left him to talk to himself.

As started to drive away, I looked him in the eyes once more, smiled and said, “Have a nice day.”

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Based on the tone of your posts (and a person can often tell a lot about a person based on how the person writes), it’s obvious why you were picked up: You seem very timid and fearful.

Let’s look at the facts: First, you claim to be so large that the guy must be jealous of you. Of course, if you were so large, it’s unlikely he would have followed you around the gym, and waited for you in the parking lot.

People are cowards and tend to only prey on those they view as vulnerable. Assuming you are “large,” you obviously do not present yourself as being “in charge.”

Second, let’s look at your word selection: “Punk.” If you were a bad ass, you would have said, “punk bitches,” or something like that. “Punk” is a term that people who are bullied use to describe people bullying them. It’s like saying, “The guy was so mean to me!” Alpha Males don’t use those terms.

You also used the word “stalking.” Prey - not predators - get stalked. I (and anyone I know who can fight) would never say someone “stalked” me. Instead, we’d say we were “followed,” or had some guy “try to run up on us.” It’s a subtle - but important - distinction.

Next, you say you “duck back into the gym.” Again, this is Beta Male language. An Alpha Male describing the story would: “I went to grab someone to watch my back.” Instead, you “ducked”!

Of course, most telling is what you did: “[I got] my friend who works there to walk with me back out …” I simply would have said, “Hey, dude, I got my friend here to keep things fair. It’s one-on-one.” Instead, you had your friend escort you to your car.

WTF?! I find it very hard to believe that you are a “big guy” who “gets shit shit” because people are “jealous of your size.” If you truly do have a remarkable physique, then it’s like your “persona” is very Beta Male. Go take a jiu-jitsu class or something.

On da real.[/quote]

California, I got to admit your breakdown analysis is spot on. When I read the original post my mental picture when I read he was being “stalked” evoked a picture of a female or small male. Also, the part about ducking in to the gym and being “escorted” evoked the same picture of a girl or small male being walked to their car by a burly gym employee. Like the employee was “aw shit not this again, I’ll be right back fellas,”. Damn hilarious.

D

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Isn’t it legal in California to knife someone you don’t like?