[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
For whatever reason, women need to hear it from other women. No amount of convincing from a healthy, weight lifting man will ever convince a non-weightlifting woman to ditch the 3 pounders. Women tend to hold themselves back in this regard.[/quote]
That doesn’t work either. Recently, I was chatting with a woman I work with who was adamant that women should not lift weights, they’re not meant to, it’s too heavy, the boys have the muscle etc. But I didn’t argue much. I stated that I lift weights and it works for me. It’s too personal to start debating it because inevitably I end up saying (whether that’s what I mean to say or not) you’d look better if you did x and she’ll end up saying nah you look like etc etc.
Well probably not with this woman in particular because she is generally very sweet and generous in discussion but she is also very beautiful and while she might have skinny flabby arms, there isn’t really anything wrong with her looks. So it wasn’t worth arguing. She walks a lot, eats well and is healthy so what’s the point. If she’s interested in hearing more she can ask.
We’re both going to a bone density clinic test in a month or so and maybe after we compare results we can talk more.
Every girl thinks they will turn into a man-faced woman bodybuilder if they lift anything heavy. Loading the spine with a barbell is the best bone density builder out there, which is what women need. [/quote]
Sadly, many men think the same. I hear it several times a week from well-meaning men at my gym. “Be careful, don’t get to bulky” they say as they cruise past. I used to try to explain the mechanics of how I will not get too big - now, I just smile and say “OK!”
Every girl thinks they will turn into a man-faced woman bodybuilder if they lift anything heavy. Loading the spine with a barbell is the best bone density builder out there, which is what women need.
Sadly, many men think the same. I hear it several times a week from well-meaning men at my gym. “Be careful, don’t get to bulky” they say as they cruise past. I used to try to explain the mechanics of how I will not get too big - now, I just smile and say “OK!”
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“The mechanics.” You mean, not injecting steroids?
Every girl thinks they will turn into a man-faced woman bodybuilder if they lift anything heavy. Loading the spine with a barbell is the best bone density builder out there, which is what women need.
Sadly, many men think the same. I hear it several times a week from well-meaning men at my gym. “Be careful, don’t get to bulky” they say as they cruise past. I used to try to explain the mechanics of how I will not get too big - now, I just smile and say “OK!”
“The mechanics.” You mean, not injecting steroids? [/quote]
lol. Yeah, I guess that about covers it.
Juicing aside, I would explain how diet has a big effect on how much gain a person will have, be it man or woman. During these conversations eyes glaze over and I can practically hear “la la la I’m-not-hearing-you la la la” I give up.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
MsM wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
“Only 3-pound weights,” Tracy says. “No woman should lift more than 3 pounds.”
I refuse to read any further. That is pure and utter BS and Paltrow looks anorexic.
Agreed on both points. I can’t even bring myself to read it.
Paltrow is way too skinny. When she walks her knees look like they buckle inwards. Let’s not worry about strengthening those leg muscles because I’m sure that’s proper leg function.[/quote]
I find it interesting that she trains Madonna as well. Madonna looks great, while Paltrow looks anorexic. I am certain that genetics play a huge part in the diferences, but at leat Madonna has some muscle.
[quote]Geminspector wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
MsM wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
“Only 3-pound weights,” Tracy says. “No woman should lift more than 3 pounds.”
I refuse to read any further. That is pure and utter BS and Paltrow looks anorexic.
Agreed on both points. I can’t even bring myself to read it.
Paltrow is way too skinny. When she walks her knees look like they buckle inwards. Let’s not worry about strengthening those leg muscles because I’m sure that’s proper leg function.
I find it interesting that she trains Madonna as well. Madonna looks great, while Paltrow looks anorexic. I am certain that genetics play a huge part in the diferences, but at leat Madonna has some muscle.
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She just needs to eat something once in awhile. She looks the insect women figure competitors TC was talking about who go overboard on DNP and cutting drugs. Her arms look horrendous these days. But I guess a lot of that is age and loose skin too. I can’t believe the only training she does is this moron’s workout though. All of the actual hot women in Hollywood lift real weights (like Jessica Biel). Paltrow is not one of them. Many of them are trained by Valerie Waters who has them doing real training.
Yes, but Madonna has been a dancer all her life, not to mention the grueling workout she gets from her stage shows. She also got pretty buff in the early 90s, and took a lot of flack from the media about being “too muscley”.
What bugs me is how girls who are in pretty bad shape figure because that Madonna only does yoga, or pilates or whatever the flavor of the day is, that’s all they need too. They fail to see that the woman has been training intensely for the past 30 years, and at this point in her life, maybe all she needs to maintain is yoga or “band therapy” like this trainer advocates.
"Anderson’s studio is in Los Angeles and it’s reported Gwyneth Platrow, Chris Martin and Madonna are clients. Anderson says, “I don’t teach generic classes.” She uses a computer analysis of each new client’s muscle structure to “devise a plan to get them into the lean, flexible shape of a dancer.”
[quote]dg401 wrote:
"Anderson’s studio is in Los Angeles and it’s reported Gwyneth Platrow, Chris Martin and Madonna are clients. Anderson says, “I don’t teach generic classes.” She uses a computer analysis of each new client’s muscle structure to “devise a plan to get them into the lean, flexible shape of a dancer.”
[quote]dianab wrote:
Yes, but Madonna has been a dancer all her life, not to mention the grueling workout she gets from her stage shows. She also got pretty buff in the early 90s, and took a lot of flack from the media about being “too muscley”.
What bugs me is how girls who are in pretty bad shape figure because that Madonna only does yoga, or pilates or whatever the flavor of the day is, that’s all they need too. They fail to see that the woman has been training intensely for the past 30 years, and at this point in her life, maybe all she needs to maintain is yoga or “band therapy” like this trainer advocates.[/quote]
And it’s funny because I’ve dated a few girls that say that want to have a body like Madonna’s or have ‘Madonna arms’, but are totally opposed to lifting weights. “How do you think she got those arms?”, I’ll say. They think it’s all yoga and pilates. I try to explain that she was a serious trainer when she was younger and that’s where it came from, but it just doesn’t sink in.
Something about that picture of the two of them with those tiny freaking weights makes me unreasonably irritated. It looks like they’re holding them between two fingers.
Really though, does anyone here really care what other women/men do when they ‘train’? I like that I get compliments about my arms/shoulders/back when I wear sleaveless shirts. I like even better that the skinny and/or fat women don’t. What can I say. I’m just mean that way
The only reason I care is because starting next week, I’ll be training some of those women who are so prone to what the media tells them is the “proper” way for a woman to train.
Not so sure how this job is going to work out. Seeing shit like this depresses me.
[quote]dianab wrote:
The only reason I care is because starting next week, I’ll be training some of those women who are so prone to what the media tells them is the “proper” way for a woman to train.
Not so sure how this job is going to work out. Seeing shit like this depresses me.[/quote]
I see your point. I don’t think I could ever be a trainer. I just don’t care about anyone elses goals.
This came up in discussion yesterday at work with my boss. I just wouldn’t have the patience to deal with the toning & general fitness group. Truthfully I wouldn’t have the patience for goals that differ from mine at all regardless of what they are. When I have a goal, I have blinders on and tend to trample whatever is in my way. I have nothing but admiration for people who are genuinely good teachers in whatever discipline they choose. I just suck at it.
You seem to have patience and an even keel. I’m sure you will make an impression.
Every girl thinks they will turn into a man-faced woman bodybuilder if they lift anything heavy. Loading the spine with a barbell is the best bone density builder out there, which is what women need.
Sadly, many men think the same. I hear it several times a week from well-meaning men at my gym. “Be careful, don’t get to bulky” they say as they cruise past. I used to try to explain the mechanics of how I will not get too big - now, I just smile and say “OK!”
“The mechanics.” You mean, not injecting steroids?
lol. Yeah, I guess that about covers it.
Juicing aside, I would explain how diet has a big effect on how much gain a person will have, be it man or woman. During these conversations eyes glaze over and I can practically hear “la la la I’m-not-hearing-you la la la” I give up.[/quote]
Women also have on average 40% of the muscle fibers that men do in the muscles of the upper body, limiting the potential for hyugeness.
Also didn’t say somewhere she was working out like 2hrs a day, 6 days a weak?
[quote]dday wrote:
Son of a bitch! Every house wife in the nation clammers to anything “The Oprah” has to say or anything said on “The Oprah’s” show. I’m going to Wal-Mart tonight to check the stock of 3lb db’s I bet they’re sold out!![/quote]
The only thing Oprah lifts over 3 pounds are Isamax Jumbo Wicked Whoopie Pies:
[i]Wicked Proud
Our Classic Whoopie Pies were featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show in Nov 2003 as a great gift and again on her website Nov-Dec 2004 as great gift. “Thank you very much OPRAH!”
Also didn’t say somewhere she was working out like 2hrs a day, 6 days a weak? [/quote]
Paltrow? Yes, she did. 2 hrs. per day, 6 dyas a week. She bemoans how HARD it is and how it kicks her ass. I will say that on the Oprah episode she looked better than I have ever seen her. Imagine how thin she was before.
