I’m not sure any president, who did not die in office, did not seek re-election after their first elected term other than Coolidge - I’m sure DJT has expressed his desire to run in 2020 as well … I wouldn’t expect this to be a likely scenario
How many have been in their 70s at the time, though?
*And used to the lifestyle he lived before taking office?
Good point.
I personally think he loves this shit though … We’ll see. I think he’ll seek re-election but might depend on what he can “accomplish” while in …
Ya, he probably does love it, but the white house is like a 2 star hotel for him…
The fact that people, and Trump supporters in particular, are surprised about his comments with regard to gun rights and due process shows how little they know about the person they elected. It also shows how they covered their ears when other people were trying to explain all of this to them pre-election. All they could do was say libtard, cuck and MAGA in response.
Has Trump ever complained about the gun laws in NYC? He also supports stop and frisk. Let’s not forget, assuming people actually knew in the first place, the whole Central Park jogger affair.
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Let’s say Trump doesn’t run in 2020. Who are we hoping runs(with a realistic chance of winning the nomination) instead?
Marco Rubio?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/22/politics/marco-rubio-gun-debate-cnn-town-hall/index.html
Good call - he technically sought it but dropped out due to what seems like turmoil IIRC - but yea, he was not on the ticket for a 2nd term
Kasich. I’d have voted for him against HRC hands down personally.
Party won’t nominate him though. He’s not polarizing enough. People don’t genuinely want bipartisanship these days. They want their guy to step on the other guys
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I voted for Kasich in the primary. My wife and in-laws are from Ohio and like him a great deal. Ted Cruz has said things I agree with, I liked his debates with Bernie, but he comes across as slimy. I loathe his stance on our public lands.
On the Democratic side, I really like Jim Webb.
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If you’re a Kasich supporter, you’d be unlikely to break with Trump over a call for more restrictions on firearms. Kasich is a good example of the reason I asked the question. Assuming Trump wasn’t just babbling, Kasich is still worse on guns.
Is he the guy who said he killed commies and got crickets b/c he was in a room full of commies when he said it? yea, I liked him too
Trump? Babbling? Never…
I think Rand Paul and (to a far lesser extent) Ted Cruz would be big improvements in regards to firearms and many other issues, but they’re not winning any nomination. That’s why I asked the question. Who could a big supporter of gun rights support that would represent an improvement over Trump?
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I live in Ohio. Voted for him his last 2 runs. I’ve also met him in person. His history of working with both sides was what I really liked about him.
Then the 2016 election opened my eyes to the fact that the American people, en masse, seem to actually count bipartisanship against people. I’m not sure when it moved from the pro to the con column, but damn do I miss it.
Yeah but with Kasich you’re much more likely to get a result that resembles common sense and logic. With Trump we’re just going to get a populist response based on whoever is yelling the loudest
Edit: unverified reference as food for thought
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If “common sense” and a “populist response” both lead to the same place, who cares? We’re not getting a President that doesn’t at least pretend to be a Populist. Far too many people can vote for that to happen.
Seems to me true “populist” reactions to stuff like this would lead to much stricter gun laws. It’s not actually about what’s popular, it’s about what’s popular with the loud people.
I usually read Kasich’s use of the phrase “common sense” to mean “bipartisan” (another example of the public having a genuine distaste for bipartisanship, imo).
I think that’s a result of the government being almost unlimited and having a say-so in everything. You can’t give much when giving may result in any manner of objectionable(to “you,” at least) things being forced upon you.
Right. But ultimately that’s just an evolution of the average American me, me, me’ing all the way to the bank. It’s nowhere near exclusive to 2A talks. There’s been a huge push away from “getting what I want” and towards “as long as the other guy doesn’t get what he wants.”
I like to use the guys I work with as a sample for our political pulse. It’s a surprisingly good sample with people from a lot of different backgrounds.
Of Trump voters on the gun issue I see two types:
1.There are the “Trumpkins.” The guys who were not politically active at all prior to 2016. These were the guys who would say how voting doesn’t matter, the government is corrupt, and we are all screwed. Trump came along and they have never looked back. No matter what he does, they will not turn on him. True apologist. They will explain away any contradiction he makes.
2.Then there are the Conservative/Libertarian bunch. Some former military, all heavily armed. These are the guys who have actually read the Federalist Papers. They voted for Trump because he wasn’t Hilary and they didn’t want to go third party.
Should Trump and the Republicans pass some type of gun control legislation, he will lose some of his base. Not a lot, but maybe enough to make a difference in a national election.
Let’s also not forget that the midterms are upon us. If some type of gun control gets passed by a Republican majority Congress, who’s base do you think is more likely to head to the polls or stay home?
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Well if the Russians take over maybe they won’t take away your guns?
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