You might aswell throw a bunch of plates on a trampoline and pass the lift aslong as they bounce high enough.
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Video evidence doesn’t lie… may have been doctored tho who knows the depths that IPF fanatics will go to promote their cult.
Just looked up the Iron Tanks sleeves. They is not IPF approved
So probably have a built in nuclear powered hydraulic exoskeleton mecha knee support.
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Double Sleeves. Ez
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*yet
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Cut…
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#triggered
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Absolutely triggering
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because 74kg class here I come
Another thing to consider is not only doing the best lifts for your sport but also for the longevity of your body. I have seen @flipcollar state numerous times he wished he would have not neglected his overhead strength due to mobility issues now. He also has a big back so not your typical gym bro that never did rows.
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Thought this whole time that he was a strongman with no chill
the only way sleeves are adding anything close to that much to your squat is if it’s mental. I know WAY too many good squatters, and I have my own experiences to rely, on, to believe this. Most I’ve heard is about 5kg, and I believe that’s outrageous/unbelievable, unless you’re squatting over 400kg. At that point, little equipment differences can make that sort of a difference. And that would also equate to a much smaller percentage difference.
As for the point about my overhead work: yes x10000. I wish I had done it. I actually never included it much, even before my powerlifting, because I simply didn’t like it, and I thought I could just do lateral raises and that would be sufficient. When I started lifting, I didn’t care about being athletic. And it shows now.
But yea man, put your body through as much motion as you can, on a regular, hopefuly daily, basis. It’s a good idea for anyone at any age. It’s amazing how early I lost mobility.
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Will for sure be OHPing next training cycle
I’m not so sure… them sleeves are pretty thick. As soon I bend my knee a few degrees I start feeling pressure from them. It actually takes quite a bit of effort to bend my knee all the way.
Is it really unbelievable that this same pressure applied constantly through the squat ROM especially through the sticking point, like your mate giving you a little “spot” / help through the sticking point won’t get me a few kilos extra?
Maybe it is mental but I can only go off the lifting I’ve done. Maybe if you could work it into your program like hit a AMRAP at a certain weight sleeves vs without or do a comp without sleeves and see if the numbers are the same-ish
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Will probably start a seperate thread for this but now that I’m happy with where deadlift and squat are and are going I’m looking to finally cure my poverty bench.
Have gotten lots of great stuff so far from you lot but to help organise my thoughts and maybe prompt other forum member to add more to the discussion I’ve tried to lay it some categories:
- Technique/Form/Cues
- Programs, Programming and variables
- Assistance/Accessory and carryover
- Hypertrophy and Bodyweight
- Individual Differences / guineapig’s circumstances
- Equipment / Training Aids
- Other?
Do these sound about right to you guys?
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Maybe throw in prehab/rehab and mobility work to get that cheater arch
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Don’t go there man, I can’t even…
Extreme arch benching is the cockroach on the plate of powerlifting. It’s the one thing that puts me off.
I get that its part of the sport, and even though I can’t arch for shit I’ll still do as much as I can on a competition lift when the time comes.
But to me its like diving in football (or soccer). It’s part of the sport, but it shouldn’t be.
To illustrate, please find the video of Eddie Berglund Benches 192.5kg at 66kg. The bar moves LESS THAN 2 INCHES.
I guess every sport has its ugly side, problem child, or ingrained issue, and I also don’t have a solution. How do you regulate how much arch is allowed so people are actually benching, a foam pad under the back you have to maintain contact with? Not exactly an elegant solution.
Hmm this appears to have digressed into a full on rant. Its just the one thing I don’t love about powerlifting.
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The one solution that does come to mind, which may seem like sacrilege to some, is what ‘stronglifts’(EDIT: Read Strengthlifts) has done, no bench press at all, Overhead press instead. Much harder to cheat on that boy.
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How do you mitigate leg drive? How much back lean are you aloud? I fear OH Press arch would become more of a problem child than Bench arch.
I think Push Press. No way to cheat. As much legs and back bend as you can handle to put max poundage above your head. But than it looks more like weightlifting…
Leg drive is easy to regulate for. None. Strict Press only.
Whether you lean back or no, harder but still possible to the extent of T spine mobility without knee bend, you still have to go through a full range of motion to get the bar from shoulders to lock-out. Being fat doesnt reduce the ROM. Watch some of those WR bench presses and tell me anything even close to that is possible with a Strict Press.
Perform it Shoulders against a padded wall or vertical bench if you are worried about lean back. Lean or no lean its a feat of strength not contortion.
You mean Strengthlifting? Stronglifts is the ripoff program by Mehdi.
I kinda want to do one as I like that it’s Strict Overhead Press instead of Bench and you can’t pull sumo. If one comes about in Omaha again or somewhere in Iowa I will probably do one.