I think you’re spot on about my bench… but how do you know I’m not actually a SHW pig
I’ve not OHPed much so maybe getting that up will carry over just for the mass/strength in the relevant muscles. More curls too more importantly.
If it means anything sleeves add like 15-20kg onto my squat so probably not as far behind as it seems. Will be doing sleeved training soon so we can see where it’s at
I haven’t been focusing on deadlift… It’s just that ever since I switched to sumo there’s been all kinds of gains. Even if I’m not particularly focusing or making an extra effort to up my deadlift do you think that because it is going up the other two lifts slow down in progress?
Surprisingly I don’t have SBD sleeves lol. Maybe for a comp I could justify buying a comp pair but right now I have a pair of IronTanks sleeves I got when they had a 30% off sale. Comparing with my friends SBDs it doesn’t seem that different. It’s just thick neoprene in the end.
The 175kg Squat PR was done in sleeves a few months back.
My recent sleeveless squat PR was 140kg x 5 so it doesn’t really add up to that. It’s more consistent with my sleeveless squat PR of 155kg so that’s why I think there’s a decent sized boost from sleeves.
Was convinced by you and my gym buddies to do some phases of sleeve training because like it will train back tightness much more than sleeveless squats while still developing the quads well
Since running 5/3/1 which added Overhead Press and alot of Dip volume, which were absent from many of my routines before. My bench and strict overhead have gone up tremendously every week. I say give it a shot, i believe there is a nice carryover that could help you out.
I am EXTREMELY sceptical that sleeves will add that much to your squat. Even wraps rarely add more than 20 kilos. Possibly you feel more confident in sleeves, but that (to me) is a whole other problem. At your age, unless you have a history of significant knee injury you shouldn’t need sleeves to be confident with a heavy weight on your back. It may also be that sleeves improve the feedback you get from your knees - but again, if they add that much then there is a major issue of without them you cannot activate what’s around your knees to work properly.
For your bench, bench more. Then press, dip, etc. It’ll let you practice technique while adding mass. Win/win.
Nah, They are two different animals. I train overhead as a main lift with dips as assistance. If you can train both, then do it, you wont regret it. But if you have to pick one, I would go with dips.
I think I have a good idea of how extremely skeptical you are because you’ve used caps to emphasise the word that’s meant to emphasise how much emphasis you emphasise emphasisisisisis lol nvm.
Im skeptical also on how sleeves could add that much, since Ive not used them, however, when browsing the qualifying total requirement for the federation Im lifting in, the Raw + sleeves division has +25kg requirement to full Raw at my weight, and that theme carries across all weight classes, same in the untested and womens division. Raw + sleeves they expect 20-30kg more.
There’s a raw raw raw division in any federation? I would’ve thought the rawest is got was sleeves and belt because there’s a lot of money to be made in those pieces of neoprene
That’s why then. Wraps will easily add 10 kilos, often 20 kg and even more at times. There is a huge difference in how much wraps add compared to sleeves.
Will disagree with @MarkKO on the backing off of deadlift. Fuck balanced looking totals. Big totals >. If your goal is to still to out total your friend get that deadlift up because it’s moving fast enough to make up two lifts worth of progress nevermind the squat going up slow too. Bench may be meh but doesn’t matter.
So sleeves AND wraps, elbow sleeves and compression tights division would be your worst nightmare lel?
