As others have pointed out it was in reference to Dylan. As for Dr. Mike, I liked what he had to say. I don’t know that I agree with all of it, but he certainly has a useful perspective and I believe he is right much more than he is wrong. I’m not on board with his oral only idea, but I can see the logic in his thinking.
What did you guys think of his dislike of ‘cycles’ and that 12 weeks is essentially nothing. I think he said something like 16-21 weeks is where you’ll actually gain something worthwhile.
I think cycles are fine. Altho I believe they are hard on the body. And you should not begin to cycle unless you are prepared for trt. It might be your first or your 8th cycle at anytime things can go wrong and you don’t recover so unless your prepared I don’t think cycling is appropriate. And I agree mostly with the point of if your at your natural limit then cycling is pointless because a lot of the gains will be lost if your not on trt.
As far as cycle length I don’t speak on it much on this forum because here 12 weeks is what’s accepted and repeated. And I think that’s OK gains can def be made in 12 weeks. But personally I’m a proponent for longer cycles. Especially if using multiple compounds or stacking compounds at different points in the cycle. Especially if your on a blast and cruise. I see nothing wrong with a 20 week blast as long as your not getting carried away with doses.
The other things he said I liked is the more drugs we put in our body ultimately the shorter we are making our life span. So it’s a trade off improve quality of life and trade in longevity. If I’m gonna die at 85 instead of 95 because of my gear use I’m 100% ok with that and I think people need to understand this an accept it before using gear. He also said some good shit about fat burners.
Let me add something aswell. Rich piana said a lot of crazy shit but one thing he said I agree 100% with is you got to experiment and find out what works for you. I agree with the standard test only first cycle you need to know how you handle test. After that tho as long as your educated find out what works for you for your goals. I don’t believe in any set guidelines to what people need to do and don’t do this is a great forum but I think way to many people are hung up on This test only forever non sense youl notice that is not the norm on many other forums…I do agree with the no oral only shit lol fuck that.
There’s another video Israetel video here.
I think his view of cycles is too rigid. Yes, you will do better with 16 weeks vs 12. No doubt. But he also said that if you’re committed to the needle then plan to do that for life. That’s not, in my opinion, a reasonable thing to say. Plenty of guys manage one cycle a year and gain what they want without the annoyance of trt.