[quote]ubl0 wrote:
no, land is expensive and you have to pay someone to chase them around, vs putting them in a pen and letting an automated system feed them.
.[/quote]
It also occurs to me that the beef you find in supermarkets has all kinds of preservatives on it, which would increase the shelf-life. I bet a place like Whole Foods has to throw away lots of meat, because it goes bad quickly. That would also raise prices, no?
This is a topic which I have spent a lot of time researching and pondering, so I will try my best to keep it quick.
First of all, for the question about why grain-fed beef is less expensive, it all comes down to the government’s subsidizing of corn. Corn is cheap because the market is perpetually flooded, and so it is cheap to feed the cattle corn. What’s more, since corn is more calorie-dense than grass, you can fatten up a steer to slaughtering weight faster than you can on grass, so you have to feed them for less time, which saves money as well.
Now, from that information alone, one could easily come to the conclusion that from an economics standpoint, feeding cows corn is a pretty good idea (and in fact many so-called experts say just that). But, there are a few things which we need to investigate further.
First, should we be feeding corn to cows in the first place? Of course not. Cows are ruminants, and are meant to graze on forage which ferments in a low-acid environment in their stomachs. Feeding them grain increases the acidity in their stomachs and the amount of gas released, which not only causes them pain but also threatens their lives and makes them susceptible to infection. So, they are administered antibiotics to keep them alive! Also, grass has the perfect fat content for the cows, but grain doesn’t so fats are added to their meal, and usually include animal fats. Yes, we are feeding ruminants grain and animal fat.
Great idea, right? And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
Second, where is all this corn coming from? Well, it certainly doesn’t just grow on its own (like grass!). In fact, all that corn needs to be fertilized by something, and since the cows aren’t out in the cornfields spreading fertilizer out their back ends, the necessary nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium have to come from somewhere. It comes from synthetic fertilizer which is processed using fossil fuels (specifically the process of “fixing” nitrogen, or extracting it from the atmosphere). And since the soil in which the corn is growing is so depleted of organic matter, the fertilizer runs off into streams and rivers and ends up in our water, which needs to be filtered at the expense of taxpayers.
Have you heard of the “Dead Zone” in the Gulf of Mexico? It is a region where no life except algae can exist because of the lack of oxygen, and it is due to nitrogen-rich run-off making its way down the Mississippi. And of course, the only solution to poor soil is to fertilize it more, which means we are going to have to dump more crap into our water every year, and don’t get me started on ethanol…
One last point, and it’s one that I feel very strongly about (and think all T-Nationers who fancy themselves renaissance men and women should feel strongly about as well). When you buy a pound of conventionally-raised meat at the supermarket, where does that money go? Let’s follow it as it trickles down… First, the store itself takes a cut, then some money goes to a distributor, then most likely to one of the four big companies that process a vast majority of the beef in this country, none of which have a good track record in terms of employee safety and environmental stewardship. And maybe a few cents makes it to a farmer.
So, with your hard-earned dollar, you are basically padding the pockets of some giant company whose only concern is profit and efficiency at all costs. I like to picture some asshole in a highrise in New York City laughing and counting his money every time I buy a steak from the Food Lion. Not a pretty picture.
Now, let’s examine buying a 1/4 cow from a farm down the road. All your money stays in your community, and it goes to someone dedicated to producing food in a sustainable way, which benefits not only the environment, but also your health. Sure, it’ll cost you a little more, but now you are not financing the slow death of what was once the greatest institution on earth, the American farm. You are buying your food from a human being, right down the road, and now you can feed your children without worrying whether you just lost the E. Coli lottery.
Ok, sorry for the rant. If you want to know more, I highly recommend the books “Raising Less Corn and More Hell” by George Pyle, and “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” by Michael Pollan.
Happy shopping!
[quote]swordthrower wrote:
One last point, and it’s one that I feel very strongly about (and think all T-Nationers who fancy themselves renaissance men and women should feel strongly about as well). When you buy a pound of conventionally-raised meat at the supermarket, where does that money go? Let’s follow it as it trickles down… First, the store itself takes a cut, then some money goes to a distributor, then most likely to one of the four big companies that process a vast majority of the beef in this country, none of which have a good track record in terms of employee safety and environmental stewardship. And maybe a few cents makes it to a farmer.
So, with your hard-earned dollar, you are basically padding the pockets of some giant company whose only concern is profit and efficiency at all costs. I like to picture some asshole in a highrise in New York City laughing and counting his money every time I buy a steak from the Food Lion. Not a pretty picture.
Now, let’s examine buying a 1/4 cow from a farm down the road. All your money stays in your community, and it goes to someone dedicated to producing food in a sustainable way, which benefits not only the environment, but also your health. Sure, it’ll cost you a little more, but now you are not financing the slow death of what was once the greatest institution on earth, the American farm. You are buying your food from a human being, right down the road, and now you can feed your children without worrying whether you just lost the E. Coli lottery.
Ok, sorry for the rant. If you want to know more, I highly recommend the books “Raising Less Corn and More Hell” by George Pyle, and “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” by Michael Pollan.
Happy shopping![/quote]
Great post, This is the one reason which is letting me justify to myself paying a little more than if I bought it from grasslandbeef.com Its local. I completely agree with supporting your local farming community having grown up farming and now working in agriculture.
[quote]swordthrower wrote:
And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
[/quote]
I was under the impression that cooking kills this bacteria.
Are you also anti-walmart and/or free trade? Not trying to start anything, just wondering.
[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
I was under the impression that cooking kills this bacteria.
Are you also anti-walmart and/or free trade? Not trying to start anything, just wondering.[/quote]
Sure, but you know what? I love my beef rare and full of EFA…
[quote]swordthrower wrote:
This is a topic which I have spent a lot of time researching and pondering, so I will try my best to keep it quick.
First of all, for the question about why grain-fed beef is less expensive, it all comes down to the government’s subsidizing of corn. Corn is cheap because the market is perpetually flooded, and so it is cheap to feed the cattle corn. What’s more, since corn is more calorie-dense than grass, you can fatten up a steer to slaughtering weight faster than you can on grass, so you have to feed them for less time, which saves money as well.
Now, from that information alone, one could easily come to the conclusion that from an economics standpoint, feeding cows corn is a pretty good idea (and in fact many so-called experts say just that). But, there are a few things which we need to investigate further.
First, should we be feeding corn to cows in the first place? Of course not. Cows are ruminants, and are meant to graze on forage which ferments in a low-acid environment in their stomachs. Feeding them grain increases the acidity in their stomachs and the amount of gas released, which not only causes them pain but also threatens their lives and makes them susceptible to infection. So, they are administered antibiotics to keep them alive! Also, grass has the perfect fat content for the cows, but grain doesn’t so fats are added to their meal, and usually include animal fats. Yes, we are feeding ruminants grain and animal fat.
Great idea, right? And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
Second, where is all this corn coming from? Well, it certainly doesn’t just grow on its own (like grass!). In fact, all that corn needs to be fertilized by something, and since the cows aren’t out in the cornfields spreading fertilizer out their back ends, the necessary nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium have to come from somewhere. It comes from synthetic fertilizer which is processed using fossil fuels (specifically the process of “fixing” nitrogen, or extracting it from the atmosphere). And since the soil in which the corn is growing is so depleted of organic matter, the fertilizer runs off into streams and rivers and ends up in our water, which needs to be filtered at the expense of taxpayers.
Have you heard of the “Dead Zone” in the Gulf of Mexico? It is a region where no life except algae can exist because of the lack of oxygen, and it is due to nitrogen-rich run-off making its way down the Mississippi. And of course, the only solution to poor soil is to fertilize it more, which means we are going to have to dump more crap into our water every year, and don’t get me started on ethanol…
One last point, and it’s one that I feel very strongly about (and think all T-Nationers who fancy themselves renaissance men and women should feel strongly about as well). When you buy a pound of conventionally-raised meat at the supermarket, where does that money go? Let’s follow it as it trickles down… First, the store itself takes a cut, then some money goes to a distributor, then most likely to one of the four big companies that process a vast majority of the beef in this country, none of which have a good track record in terms of employee safety and environmental stewardship. And maybe a few cents makes it to a farmer.
So, with your hard-earned dollar, you are basically padding the pockets of some giant company whose only concern is profit and efficiency at all costs. I like to picture some asshole in a highrise in New York City laughing and counting his money every time I buy a steak from the Food Lion. Not a pretty picture.
Now, let’s examine buying a 1/4 cow from a farm down the road. All your money stays in your community, and it goes to someone dedicated to producing food in a sustainable way, which benefits not only the environment, but also your health. Sure, it’ll cost you a little more, but now you are not financing the slow death of what was once the greatest institution on earth, the American farm. You are buying your food from a human being, right down the road, and now you can feed your children without worrying whether you just lost the E. Coli lottery.
Ok, sorry for the rant. If you want to know more, I highly recommend the books “Raising Less Corn and More Hell” by George Pyle, and “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” by Michael Pollan.
Happy shopping![/quote]
Great post!
The way I see it, I’d rather pay $5/lb for grass fed @ 75% than for the regular crap @ 90%, especially since the extra fat is good stuff.
[quote]wfifer wrote:
The way I see it, I’d rather pay $5/lb for grass fed @ 75% than for the regular crap @ 90%, especially since the extra fat is good stuff. [/quote]
Yeah, and you don’t have to worry about cooking the shit out of it (literally).
The idea of lean ground beef is ridiculous in the context of grass-fed beef, but when you are dealing with corn-fed beef, the less fat the better since the omega6:omega3 ratio is so awful.
I’ve ordered from the guys the OP mentions. You can get ground beef in 25lbs packs for about 4 bucks per pound when it goes on sale. Their short ribs are really good cooked for a couple of hours in a big pot with a bottle of red wine.
If you’ve got a lot of money lying around, check out these guy’s beef…
The piedmont beef is really good. Quarter hogs are delicious also. I go through about 4 a year. The leg of lamb is well worth the price. Stay away from the turkey dogs though…
I ordered about 16 lbs (minimum is $75), shipped today as promised. I’m glad I don’t have work tomorrow; I need to be waiting around to get that shit into the freezer.
3 words: Bison. Jerky.
…bitchessss
-dizzle
[quote]A-Dizz wrote:
3 words: Bison. Jerky.
…bitchessss
-dizzle[/quote]
That post alone proves you make a lot more money than I do. Fucker.
Actually, $5/pound isn’t that terrible. You could probably do better at your local farmer’s market. But if you are like me you’re SOL in the winter.(AKA now)
Kill what you eat. Venison was going for $0.0IB in upstate PA. this week (self serve price of course). Of course my .308 round cost me $0.40 but I buy them in bulk.
Same price as last month during archery season and I can reuse the arrow!
Just saying…
[quote]swordthrower wrote:
This is a topic which I have spent a lot of time researching and pondering, so I will try my best to keep it quick.
First of all, for the question about why grain-fed beef is less expensive, it all comes down to the government’s subsidizing of corn. Corn is cheap because the market is perpetually flooded, and so it is cheap to feed the cattle corn. What’s more, since corn is more calorie-dense than grass, you can fatten up a steer to slaughtering weight faster than you can on grass, so you have to feed them for less time, which saves money as well.
Now, from that information alone, one could easily come to the conclusion that from an economics standpoint, feeding cows corn is a pretty good idea (and in fact many so-called experts say just that). But, there are a few things which we need to investigate further.
First, should we be feeding corn to cows in the first place? Of course not. Cows are ruminants, and are meant to graze on forage which ferments in a low-acid environment in their stomachs. Feeding them grain increases the acidity in their stomachs and the amount of gas released, which not only causes them pain but also threatens their lives and makes them susceptible to infection. So, they are administered antibiotics to keep them alive! Also, grass has the perfect fat content for the cows, but grain doesn’t so fats are added to their meal, and usually include animal fats. Yes, we are feeding ruminants grain and animal fat.
Great idea, right? And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
Second, where is all this corn coming from? Well, it certainly doesn’t just grow on its own (like grass!). In fact, all that corn needs to be fertilized by something, and since the cows aren’t out in the cornfields spreading fertilizer out their back ends, the necessary nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium have to come from somewhere. It comes from synthetic fertilizer which is processed using fossil fuels (specifically the process of “fixing” nitrogen, or extracting it from the atmosphere). And since the soil in which the corn is growing is so depleted of organic matter, the fertilizer runs off into streams and rivers and ends up in our water, which needs to be filtered at the expense of taxpayers.
Have you heard of the “Dead Zone” in the Gulf of Mexico? It is a region where no life except algae can exist because of the lack of oxygen, and it is due to nitrogen-rich run-off making its way down the Mississippi. And of course, the only solution to poor soil is to fertilize it more, which means we are going to have to dump more crap into our water every year, and don’t get me started on ethanol…
One last point, and it’s one that I feel very strongly about (and think all T-Nationers who fancy themselves renaissance men and women should feel strongly about as well). When you buy a pound of conventionally-raised meat at the supermarket, where does that money go? Let’s follow it as it trickles down… First, the store itself takes a cut, then some money goes to a distributor, then most likely to one of the four big companies that process a vast majority of the beef in this country, none of which have a good track record in terms of employee safety and environmental stewardship. And maybe a few cents makes it to a farmer.
So, with your hard-earned dollar, you are basically padding the pockets of some giant company whose only concern is profit and efficiency at all costs. I like to picture some asshole in a highrise in New York City laughing and counting his money every time I buy a steak from the Food Lion. Not a pretty picture.
Now, let’s examine buying a 1/4 cow from a farm down the road. All your money stays in your community, and it goes to someone dedicated to producing food in a sustainable way, which benefits not only the environment, but also your health. Sure, it’ll cost you a little more, but now you are not financing the slow death of what was once the greatest institution on earth, the American farm. You are buying your food from a human being, right down the road, and now you can feed your children without worrying whether you just lost the E. Coli lottery.
Ok, sorry for the rant. If you want to know more, I highly recommend the books “Raising Less Corn and More Hell” by George Pyle, and “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” by Michael Pollan.
Happy shopping![/quote]
Hilarious!!!
Oh…wait…You’re serious, aren’t you?
Check corn prices. No government support when the market price is above the support cieling.
Corn prices are higher than they have been in some time.
Cattle, when given free choice of feed, will instinctively choose the most palatable feed available. Guess what that is about 99% of the time? Grain.
Guess what is responsible for more bloat death than any other feedstuff - wheat pasture. Not wheat, but the immature wheat plant - which is basically grass.
DO feedlots over feed the grain? Yes they do, in my opinion but they are not the criminals your authors want them to be.
Name three - hell - name one farmer that has slaughter facilities at his farm. That just doesn’t happen anymore, unless the farmer has made a conscious decision to market his beef to the end user.
Learn about the cattle industry from someone besides an author on a mission.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
swordthrower wrote:
This is a topic which I have spent a lot of time researching and pondering, so I will try my best to keep it quick.
First of all, for the question about why grain-fed beef is less expensive, it all comes down to the government’s subsidizing of corn. Corn is cheap because the market is perpetually flooded, and so it is cheap to feed the cattle corn. What’s more, since corn is more calorie-dense than grass, you can fatten up a steer to slaughtering weight faster than you can on grass, so you have to feed them for less time, which saves money as well.
Now, from that information alone, one could easily come to the conclusion that from an economics standpoint, feeding cows corn is a pretty good idea (and in fact many so-called experts say just that). But, there are a few things which we need to investigate further.
First, should we be feeding corn to cows in the first place? Of course not. Cows are ruminants, and are meant to graze on forage which ferments in a low-acid environment in their stomachs. Feeding them grain increases the acidity in their stomachs and the amount of gas released, which not only causes them pain but also threatens their lives and makes them susceptible to infection. So, they are administered antibiotics to keep them alive! Also, grass has the perfect fat content for the cows, but grain doesn’t so fats are added to their meal, and usually include animal fats. Yes, we are feeding ruminants grain and animal fat.
Great idea, right? And we can’t forget our favorite bug that keeps popping up in the news: E. Coli. Unfortunately, E. Coli THRIVES in acidic environments, the exact environment we have created in our cows’ stomachs. Add to that poor slaughtering quality-control (i.e. shit in the meat), and you have a lot of Americans at risk.
Second, where is all this corn coming from? Well, it certainly doesn’t just grow on its own (like grass!). In fact, all that corn needs to be fertilized by something, and since the cows aren’t out in the cornfields spreading fertilizer out their back ends, the necessary nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium have to come from somewhere. It comes from synthetic fertilizer which is processed using fossil fuels (specifically the process of “fixing” nitrogen, or extracting it from the atmosphere). And since the soil in which the corn is growing is so depleted of organic matter, the fertilizer runs off into streams and rivers and ends up in our water, which needs to be filtered at the expense of taxpayers.
Have you heard of the “Dead Zone” in the Gulf of Mexico? It is a region where no life except algae can exist because of the lack of oxygen, and it is due to nitrogen-rich run-off making its way down the Mississippi. And of course, the only solution to poor soil is to fertilize it more, which means we are going to have to dump more crap into our water every year, and don’t get me started on ethanol…
One last point, and it’s one that I feel very strongly about (and think all T-Nationers who fancy themselves renaissance men and women should feel strongly about as well). When you buy a pound of conventionally-raised meat at the supermarket, where does that money go? Let’s follow it as it trickles down… First, the store itself takes a cut, then some money goes to a distributor, then most likely to one of the four big companies that process a vast majority of the beef in this country, none of which have a good track record in terms of employee safety and environmental stewardship. And maybe a few cents makes it to a farmer.
So, with your hard-earned dollar, you are basically padding the pockets of some giant company whose only concern is profit and efficiency at all costs. I like to picture some asshole in a highrise in New York City laughing and counting his money every time I buy a steak from the Food Lion. Not a pretty picture.
Now, let’s examine buying a 1/4 cow from a farm down the road. All your money stays in your community, and it goes to someone dedicated to producing food in a sustainable way, which benefits not only the environment, but also your health. Sure, it’ll cost you a little more, but now you are not financing the slow death of what was once the greatest institution on earth, the American farm. You are buying your food from a human being, right down the road, and now you can feed your children without worrying whether you just lost the E. Coli lottery.
Ok, sorry for the rant. If you want to know more, I highly recommend the books “Raising Less Corn and More Hell” by George Pyle, and “The Omnivore’s Dilemma” by Michael Pollan.
Happy shopping!
Hilarious!!!
Oh…wait…You’re serious, aren’t you?
Check corn prices. No government support when the market price is above the support cieling.
Corn prices are higher than they have been in some time.
Cattle, when given free choice of feed, will instinctively choose the most palatable feed available. Guess what that is about 99% of the time? Grain.
Guess what is responsible for more bloat death than any other feedstuff - wheat pasture. Not wheat, but the immature wheat plant - which is basically grass.
DO feedlots over feed the grain? Yes they do, in my opinion but they are not the criminals your authors want them to be.
Name three - hell - name one farmer that has slaughter facilities at his farm. That just doesn’t happen anymore, unless the farmer has made a conscious decision to market his beef to the end user.
Learn about the cattle industry from someone besides an author on a mission.
[/quote]
So which beef is better for you Rainjack?
What is the best beef to eat then in your opinion, without spending zillions of dollars, for long term health?
I go to walmart and get either ground beef or steaks for like $2/lb on sale. Then I proceed to the pharmacy section and get 400 caps of 1g fish oil (USP grade) for $12. I eat my beef, then eat some fish oil. I do the same thing with eggs. Why the fuck do people spend so much money on omega-3 eggs when they can buy regular eggs at 1/4 the cost and just pop some fish oil with their meal? Am I missing something here?
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
I go to walmart and get either ground beef or steaks for like $2/lb on sale. Then I proceed to the pharmacy section and get 400 caps of 1g fish oil (USP grade) for $12. I eat my beef, then eat some fish oil. I do the same thing with eggs. Why the fuck do people spend so much money on omega-3 eggs when they can buy regular eggs at 1/4 the cost and just pop some fish oil with their meal? Am I missing something here?[/quote]
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner.
Being that most people are not rich - you have to go for the biggest bang for the buck. You could spend 80 bucks for 10 pounds of grass fed beef, or you could spend $30 for the same 10 pounds, buy some fish oil, and still have a chunk of change left over.
Grass fed may be the wave of the future, but right now - it is just an over priced fad.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
So which beef is better for you Rainjack?
What is the best beef to eat then in your opinion, without spending zillions of dollars, for long term health? [/quote]
In a perfect world, grass fed beef is probably much better for you. But this is not a perfect world, and there is absolutely no way of knowing what you are buying. There are no standards. There are no requirements. Anyone can start selling beef out their back door and calling it grass fed.
Longterm? Do what Schwartzy does. If you buy steaks, hand trim the fat.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Hilarious!!!
Oh…wait…You’re serious, aren’t you?
Check corn prices. No government support when the market price is above the support cieling.
Corn prices are higher than they have been in some time.
Cattle, when given free choice of feed, will instinctively choose the most palatable feed available. Guess what that is about 99% of the time? Grain.
Guess what is responsible for more bloat death than any other feedstuff - wheat pasture. Not wheat, but the immature wheat plant - which is basically grass.
DO feedlots over feed the grain? Yes they do, in my opinion but they are not the criminals your authors want them to be.
Name three - hell - name one farmer that has slaughter facilities at his farm. That just doesn’t happen anymore, unless the farmer has made a conscious decision to market his beef to the end user.
Learn about the cattle industry from someone besides an author on a mission.
[/quote]
I can’t name ANY farmers that have slaughter facilities, but I can name quite a few who would like them. However, since the USDA regulations are written for large operations, they can’t build processing facilities without a huge investment that they would never be able to pay off.
I understand that subsidies are only given when corn prices are not low, but it is still a form of corporate welfare no matter how you look at it. The larger operations take a disproportionate percentage of the subsidies, which just puts them in a better position to buy out their smaller neighbors who barely got enough to pay for all the seed, fertilizer and chemicals.
As for the bloat, sure it’s still a problem on pasture, but any good farmer can spot it and fix the problem, whereas in the CAFO’s they just medicate. And where did you get 99% from? That’s ridiculous.
And they are not “my” authors. I just gave those references for people who were interested. I have come to the same conclusions they do for the most part, and think they are a good read for your average Joe. Sure, the Michael Pollan book is a bit academic, and never really offers any solutions, but it is still an important look at the modern food system.
I don’t think the big operations are criminals, but I certainly don’t think they should be benefiting from legislature that was introduced for the sake of keeping small farmers in business.
And why did you start your post with “Hilarious!”? If you want to have a discussion, great, I’d love to hear other opinions, because I think this is a very important topic these days, but don’t be patronizing. It cheapens your argument, which really just seems like a collection of questionable facts. 99% of bloat is from wheat, no farmers want to process their own beef, cows find grain more palatable, etc. And you are accusing me of just regurgitating facts?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Schwarzenegger wrote:
I go to walmart and get either ground beef or steaks for like $2/lb on sale. Then I proceed to the pharmacy section and get 400 caps of 1g fish oil (USP grade) for $12. I eat my beef, then eat some fish oil. I do the same thing with eggs. Why the fuck do people spend so much money on omega-3 eggs when they can buy regular eggs at 1/4 the cost and just pop some fish oil with their meal? Am I missing something here?
Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner.
Being that most people are not rich - you have to go for the biggest bang for the buck. You could spend 80 bucks for 10 pounds of grass fed beef, or you could spend $30 for the same 10 pounds, buy some fish oil, and still have a chunk of change left over.
Grass fed may be the wave of the future, but right now - it is just an over priced fad. [/quote]
I just got 16 lbs for $80. This huge price differential you’re spouting about is just not there. And I don’t know about you, but I’d rather just eat good food than try to fix a crappy diet with pills.